Rapefugees Crisis

[DaGip]

it is an invasion.

http://alphanewsmn.com/2015/09/mayor-ho ... -refugees/

[GoranZ]

Syrian Passport Found at Paris Attack Site Belonged to Asylum Seeker

Terrorists are here, now what Merkel? Resignation because of incompetence.

[DaGip]

Syrian Passport Found at Paris Attack Site Belonged to Asylum Seeker

Terrorists are here, now what Merkel? Resignation because of incompetence.

Germany is going to elect Hitler!

[Keefie]

[DaGip]

Perfect.

[GoranZ]

How it all looks now

[muy_thaiguy]

Syrian Passport Found at Paris Attack Site Belonged to Asylum Seeker

Terrorists are here, now what Merkel? Resignation because of incompetence.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/ ... Z020151114
At least one was a French national...

[PLAYER57832]

Syrian Passport Found at Paris Attack Site Belonged to Asylum Seeker

Terrorists are here, now what Merkel? Resignation because of incompetence.

So far, the veracity of that passport has not been confirmed. They are saying it may be a forgery.

Even so, so many people of ANY persuasion is a lot to handle. I would definitely argue that Germany has a special obligation, given past history, though I know that is not a popular position.

That said, I keep wondering why our guys have to be put at risk when these healthy adults are just fleeing? I would be happy to take any of the children, would certainly agree to honor their parent's religion (if not of my own faith), but isn't it the adults obligation to fight for their own homes?

[Bernie Sanders]

Syrian Passport Found at Paris Attack Site Belonged to Asylum Seeker

Terrorists are here, now what Merkel? Resignation because of incompetence.

So far, the veracity of that passport has not been confirmed. They are saying it may be a forgery.

Even so, so many people of ANY persuasion is a lot to handle. I would definitely argue that Germany has a special obligation, given past history, though I know that is not a popular position.

That said, I keep wondering why our guys have to be put at risk when these healthy adults are just fleeing? I would be happy to take any of the children, would certainly agree to honor their parent's religion (if not of my own faith), but isn't it the adults obligation to fight for their own homes?

Well said PLAYER.

There's quite a few young men who should be sent back to Syria, of course in safe havens and trained to fight for THEIR CAUSE!

It's sad, that it looks like America is going to be drawn into another messy war. This is a Islamic War and having a perceived Christian nation warring against Muslims [Sunnis] is just going to invite more Sunnis to fight infidels.

No doubt, this is a war between Sunnis and Shiites. Maybe redrawing the lines on the map to separate these two sects might be best for the region.

Now that Europe is on edge, there needs to be a "DECLARED WAR" on ISIS by NATO. We also need the help from the Gulf States and the countries in the Middle East aka Muslims, to fight this scourge. Whether it's monetary, logistics and plain old boots on the ground.

[GoranZ]

The Anti-Migrant Video Going Viral Across Europe

Betting on nationalism is slowly becoming profitable for the politicians in Western Europe. And whats interesting once one country gets government made up of nationalists, many others will follow.

[jonesthecurl]

I think the US should let in all the Syrian refugees. Then there's be plenty of people happy to work on Thanksgiving.

[GoranZ]

After recent incidents on Macedonia-Greece border, Macedonia started building fence on its southern border to protect itself from Illegal crossings.

[PLAYER57832]

The Anti-Migrant Video Going Viral Across Europe

Betting on nationalism is slowly becoming profitable for the politicians in Western Europe. And whats interesting once one country gets government made up of nationalists, many others will follow.

There is a VERY fine line between pride and respect for one's culture and what amounts to xenophobia.

At the same time, there is a saying "when in Rome, do as the Romans do". I think the real question is how much these new individuals are able to adapt, how much they are forcing the natives to adapt instead and how much of that is positive.

[GoranZ]

The fence is nearly completed...

At Least 18 Macedonian Policemen Injured in Clashes With Migrants

[waauw]

At the same time, there is a saying "when in Rome, do as the Romans do". I think the real question is how much these new individuals are able to adapt, how much they are forcing the natives to adapt instead and how much of that is positive.

Not exactly a question anymore. Enough of them have migrated into europe in the past few decades to know things are not turning out as we want them to.

[GoranZ]

At the same time, there is a saying "when in Rome, do as the Romans do". I think the real question is how much these new individuals are able to adapt, how much they are forcing the natives to adapt instead and how much of that is positive.

Not exactly a question anymore. Enough of them have migrated into europe in the past few decades to know things are not turning out as we want them to.

Yup even their descendants born in Europe aren't acting European.

[patches70]

[PLAYER57832]

At the same time, there is a saying "when in Rome, do as the Romans do". I think the real question is how much these new individuals are able to adapt, how much they are forcing the natives to adapt instead and how much of that is positive.

Not exactly a question anymore. Enough of them have migrated into europe in the past few decades to know things are not turning out as we want them to.

In the US, we have a slightly different perspective, I suppose. Each wave of immigrants has changed us. Does Europe have a right to differ? I would say it is a legitimate debate, at least, without all those engaging being accused of pure hatred and xenophobic fear.

[thegreekdog]

At the same time, there is a saying "when in Rome, do as the Romans do". I think the real question is how much these new individuals are able to adapt, how much they are forcing the natives to adapt instead and how much of that is positive.

Not exactly a question anymore. Enough of them have migrated into europe in the past few decades to know things are not turning out as we want them to.

In the US, we have a slightly different perspective, I suppose. Each wave of immigrants has changed us. Does Europe have a right to differ? I would say it is a legitimate debate, at least, without all those engaging being accused of pure hatred and xenophobic fear.

Has it changed us Player? As the child (and grandchild) of immigrants (one of my grandparents was illegal until he joined the army), I'm pretty Americanized. So are all my relatives. Not sure how much the Greeks and Italians and other unwanted southern European swarthy skinned peoples changed the United States.

[PLAYER57832]

At the same time, there is a saying "when in Rome, do as the Romans do". I think the real question is how much these new individuals are able to adapt, how much they are forcing the natives to adapt instead and how much of that is positive.

Not exactly a question anymore. Enough of them have migrated into europe in the past few decades to know things are not turning out as we want them to.

In the US, we have a slightly different perspective, I suppose. Each wave of immigrants has changed us. Does Europe have a right to differ? I would say it is a legitimate debate, at least, without all those engaging being accused of pure hatred and xenophobic fear.

Has it changed us Player? As the child (and grandchild) of immigrants (one of my grandparents was illegal until he joined the army), I'm pretty Americanized. So are all my relatives. Not sure how much the Greeks and Italians and other unwanted southern European swarthy skinned peoples changed the United States.

Seriously? You want me to bring up examples? Or are you just joking?

At any rate, for us, a somewhat better comparison would be Latin America, but it is not a direct comparison. Still, the question of how many we can absorb or should absorb without feeling threatened ourselves is something that I think folks should be able to discuss. Accusing any and all who express any concern as being just hateful xenophobes helps no one.

[thegreekdog]

At the same time, there is a saying "when in Rome, do as the Romans do". I think the real question is how much these new individuals are able to adapt, how much they are forcing the natives to adapt instead and how much of that is positive.

Not exactly a question anymore. Enough of them have migrated into europe in the past few decades to know things are not turning out as we want them to.

In the US, we have a slightly different perspective, I suppose. Each wave of immigrants has changed us. Does Europe have a right to differ? I would say it is a legitimate debate, at least, without all those engaging being accused of pure hatred and xenophobic fear.

Has it changed us Player? As the child (and grandchild) of immigrants (one of my grandparents was illegal until he joined the army), I'm pretty Americanized. So are all my relatives. Not sure how much the Greeks and Italians and other unwanted southern European swarthy skinned peoples changed the United States.

Seriously? You want me to bring up examples? Or are you just joking?

At any rate, for us, a somewhat better comparison would be Latin America, but it is not a direct comparison. Still, the question of how many we can absorb or should absorb without feeling threatened ourselves is something that I think folks should be able to discuss. Accusing any and all who express any concern as being just hateful xenophobes helps no one.

I am serious. I doubt there is any way to figure this out given how many things affect culture and national identity and the like. However, I think there is more of a difference between me and a Greek citizen than there is between me and a person whose ancestors have been in the US since the 18th century.

[PLAYER57832]

I am serious. I doubt there is any way to figure this out given how many things affect culture and national identity and the like. However, I think there is more of a difference between me and a Greek citizen than there is between me and a person whose ancestors have been in the US since the 18th century.

Well both can be true. You are not as you were, (would you even have been born?) had your family stayed in Greece. However, even broadly, every group of people here impacts our country. As for specifics of Greeks and Italians -- you can look at food, fabrics, language, religion, etc, etc. Those examples may seem superficial, but look at the broader implications of each. (hmm... let's not forget movies...)

[thegreekdog]

I am serious. I doubt there is any way to figure this out given how many things affect culture and national identity and the like. However, I think there is more of a difference between me and a Greek citizen than there is between me and a person whose ancestors have been in the US since the 18th century.

Well both can be true. You are not as you were, (would you even have been born?) had your family stayed in Greece. However, even broadly, every group of people here impacts our country. As for specifics of Greeks and Italians -- you can look at food, fabrics, language, religion, etc, etc. Those examples may seem superficial, but look at the broader implications of each. (hmm... let's not forget movies...)

In the context of the "refugee crisis" I think the concern is less about incorporating the refugee culture into the existing culture in the form of food, movies, etc. Frankly, I think the reason most people go to a particular nation is that they would like to be a part of that particular nation (or region or whatever... not trying to get all nationalistc here) and may also want to retain some or a large portion of their culture. It's not a matter of "we are going to take over Country X and make it just like the country we just left" even though I think that's what most anti-immigration people think.

[mrswdk]

[GoranZ]

It sounds like nightmare, but it may be reality! Militants of the ISIS terrorist group have seized several towns in Syria, Iraq and Libya and now possess a great number of passports, die Welt reports. And they are going to use them to flood Europe under the guise of being refugees.

M-IS-taken Identity?