Pick your own Mystery Mafia Endgame:Whats your Function?

by **dakky21** on Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:43 am

Marashu wrote:Requesting extension - who wants to second and third this?

Me second if we get a third one, I will unvote Strike.

by **bosaardbeitje** on Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:45 am

Grasping at straws, grasping at straws...

Fpd I have no objections to an extension, since quite a few opinions on this whole thing are still missing, so I'll third this.

by **rishaed** on Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:49 am

Vote Count:

Endgame422 (4) - StrikeWolf, Streaker, aage, Tim Woodbury
StrikeWolf (4) - WingCmdr G, dakky21, Marashu, IronButterfly
Streaker (2) - Endgame422, Ptlowe
bosaardbeitje (1) - bosaardbeitje

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.
Deadline is Granted. You have until the 20th.

by **dakky21** on Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:49 am

That said, unvote Strike

by **bosaardbeitje** on Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:50 am

Euuuuuuuh... I am voting for myself now? I must be really drunk.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:38 am

I am confused about deadline. I assumed we had till Tuesday. Considering TFO was rather late with the Night Scene AND it effected the game significantly I would suggest we extend the day on how late TFO got us said scene.

by **Marashu** on Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:54 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:I am confused about deadline. I assumed we had till Tuesday. Considering TFO was rather late with the Night Scene AND it effected the game significantly I would suggest we extend the day on how late TFO got us said scene.

Rish has been saying deadline is the 18th since Wednesday.

by **Endgame422** on Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:05 am

Well now we do have until tuesday(the 20th) so it works out how you thought it would anyway IB.
I was hoping strike might join me/PT on streaker(who was his main push most of the day) instead of turning this into a 2 horse race but not much to do about that now.
I guess he thinks his chances of survival are better if he basically forces everyone to choose between him and myself
Obviously you didnt bother looking that game IB referenced up strike or you wouldn't be so sure of yourself and my supposed error in logic.
FP by mars

by **Streaker** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:13 am

End, all you have on me is still my read on virus.
This isn't a read on any player. I only feel confident in my read because it's about virus. I could not do it for any of you.

Anyway, long weekend for me and rereading. I'll contribute more before the deadline.

by **Streaker** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:34 am

Wing did a great job in laying out all the holes in strike's arguments.
Marashu's last post about wolf seemed a lot more town to me then his previous ones.

bosaardbeitje is holding back a LOT compared to my F11 game, if I am to die soon this one might be an interesting target for night specialists...

wolf standing by his play is 1 thing, but neglecting to adress the flaws that wing pointed out is another.
dakky seems town, too, based on his reasoning.

by **bosaardbeitje** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:56 am

Streaker wrote:bosaardbeitje is holding back a LOT compared to my F11 game, if I am to die soon this one might be an interesting target for night specialists...

Correct. Sure you must have also noticed how my jibber jabber in that game aided scum in their flawless victory? And how incredibly inaccurate my reads were? That's why I am holding back, trying to improve my gameplay.

by **strike wolf** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:48 am

What holes have I not addressed? The only one I remember him pointing out that looked like a hole was me seeming to "forget" as he said that Madmitch was only partially hindered which I addressed why that wasn't the case.

With a bit more time to work with I will unvote endgame I did read your role and ability but I have not read over your play in that game and unless there is something obvious I amean missing I don't get how it explains away the logical fallacies. Still my post addressing the possibilities with the of the PR enforcer in light of Wing'says claim and your last few posts seeming better I am willing to say you may be more townish than I thought.

Will address more later when I can. Marashu is now leaning town for me after the deadline extension request.

by **rishaed** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:01 am

Vote Count:

Endgame422 (3) - Streaker, aage, Tim Woodbury
StrikeWolf (5) - WingCmdr G, dakky21, Marashu, bosaardbeitje, IronButterfly
Streaker (2) - Endgame422, Ptlowe

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.
Sorry guys. I had the misconception that I opened the day on the 8th, not the 10th. I somehow got confused with my N0 opening (b/c i normally don't do a N0). With the extension the new deadline is now the 22nd. Also Bosaardbeitje i fixed the vote.

by **strike wolf** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:06 am

rishaed wrote:Vote Count:

Endgame422 (3) - Streaker, aage, Tim Woodbury
StrikeWolf (5) - WingCmdr G, dakky21, Marashu, bosaardbeitje, IronButterfly
Streaker (2) - Endgame422, Ptlowe

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.
Sorry guys. I had the misconception that I opened the day on the 8th, not the 10th. I somehow got confused with my N0 opening (b/c i normally don't do a N0). With the extension the new deadline is now the 22nd. Also Bosaardbeitje i fixed the vote.

Dakky unvoted.

by **bosaardbeitje** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:32 am

rishaed wrote: Also Bosaardbeitje i fixed the vote.

Much appreciated!

by **rishaed** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:48 am

strike wolf wrote:
rishaed wrote:Vote Count:

Endgame422 (3) - Streaker, aage, Tim Woodbury
StrikeWolf (5) - WingCmdr G, Marashu, bosaardbeitje, IronButterfly
Streaker (2) - Endgame422, Ptlowe

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.
Sorry guys. I had the misconception that I opened the day on the 8th, not the 10th. I somehow got confused with my N0 opening (b/c i normally don't do a N0). With the extension the new deadline is now the 22nd. Also Bosaardbeitje i fixed the vote.

Dakky unvoted.

Indeed.

by **Endgame422** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:00 am

Thats the game i died N1,and replaced back on D3 so i had multiple roles. 1 of those roles had multiple powers so i dont think anyone(including IB) can say definetly what my role is here.
My claim narrowed down the options a bit for scum but i dont think it hurt towns chances too badly.
Streaker,the post about virus isnt it. Youve asked for it and your gonna get it.
You hard-read virus town based on nothing as far as i can tell.

Streaker wrote:Virus town, 99% of the time here.

Then a pure bandwagon vote,again only adressesing the vote with 3 words(just like boss)

Streaker wrote:I support this.
Also, mod intervening on a madmitch lynch means he does not want mitch to be lynched because of a post restriction.

Unvote, vote endgame

Then you tell us to expect you to push mars later which seems like your trying to build in an excuse for later.(ie:i said i would push mars and i did so im being consistent in my reads)

Streaker wrote:We'll see where the endgame wagon goes, but expect me to push this later.

Except you havent done anything of the sort regarding mars.
I also think its interesting that your distancing yourself from my lynch with that post,even though your vote is still currently on me.
And finally your currently talking up wings case on strike but your not backing it up with a vote.
Seems like your trying hard to stay off of the lynch but to ensure that it goes through.
Also saying that i have nothing on you implys that you are guilty and that i simply lack the evidence to prove it.

by **HotShot53** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:07 pm

Sorry for not being around this weekend, I also had thought (apparently correctly now) that the deadline was Tuesday, and I had a lot of stuff to catch up on (like sleep) over the weekend lol. I will catch up and read the current cases, see what I agree with and if I can support any of them, or can find anything else. (At work now so can't do the full read now... should have time tonight during all the commercials while watching the MNF game. Go Eagles!)

by **virus90** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:57 pm

Looking at the 3 with votes at the moment;

Endgame well, claims something vague, IB knows what? and IB apparently trust its enough to change his vote. Also strike apparently knows and unvotes so i guess its good enough to let him pass for now, i mean if the major lynch candidate at the moment (strike) unvotes the other most likely lunch (endgame) i guess i better trust that its worth the unvote.

Streaker, thx for the town read xD though at the point you said that i dont have a clue why you would townread me at that point. But i try not to let that influence me cause ofcourse its nice if someone calls you town but anyone can say that mafia or town. So cause i was afraid i was biased by him calling me town i reviewed his posts and did not find anything that stood me out as scummy. he voted mitch for his absense, endgame due to reasons mentioned by others and mentions a post of marashu that deserves mentioning. Now mentions bosaardbeitje for withoilding a bit, im not in the F11 game described but i can understand the view on bosaardbeitje so fair enough in my opinion. so town read for now.

which kind of means by exclusion aswell as posts made by strike that of these 3 i prefer pressure/claim on/of strike, with 5 votes already so i wont vote him at this point and ill do a activity vote in the end of the post. Strike made many posts but i havent been able to town read him from them, has been on streajer till the weekend then votes endgame yesterday to retract the vote today. His Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:19 pm post (timezone dependent?) post i see as pretty towny from him but ends with more on endgame but retracts it a day later as i already said.

well thats my view on the 3 with votes at the moment, i dont see a new candidate as realistic at the moment since we got 3 days left if im not mistaken, things would have to go pretty quick.

vote Timwoodbury for getting some activity from him while waiting next part of the disucssion,
curious for your update hotshot.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:30 pm

virus90 wrote:Looking at the 3 with votes at the moment;

Endgame well, claims something vague, IB knows what? and IB apparently trust its enough to change his vote. Also strike apparently knows and unvotes so i guess its good enough to let him pass for now, i mean if the major lynch candidate at the moment (strike) unvotes the other most likely lunch (endgame) i guess i better trust that its worth the unvote.

Streaker, thx for the town read xD though at the point you said that i dont have a clue why you would townread me at that point. But i try not to let that influence me cause ofcourse its nice if someone calls you town but anyone can say that mafia or town. So cause i was afraid i was biased by him calling me town i reviewed his posts and did not find anything that stood me out as scummy. he voted mitch for his absense, endgame due to reasons mentioned by others and mentions a post of marashu that deserves mentioning. Now mentions bosaardbeitje for withoilding a bit, im not in the F11 game described but i can understand the view on bosaardbeitje so fair enough in my opinion. so town read for now.

which kind of means by exclusion aswell as posts made by strike that of these 3 i prefer pressure/claim on/of strike, with 5 votes already so i wont vote him at this point and ill do a activity vote in the end of the post. Strike made many posts but i havent been able to town read him from them, has been on streajer till the weekend then votes endgame yesterday to retract the vote today. His Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:19 pm post (timezone dependent?) post i see as pretty towny from him but ends with more on endgame but retracts it a day later as i already said.

well thats my view on the 3 with votes at the moment, i dont see a new candidate as realistic at the moment since we got 3 days left if im not mistaken, things would have to go pretty quick.

vote Timwoodbury for getting some activity from him while waiting next part of the disucssion,
curious for your update hotshot.

And your case om Tim Woodberry is what again?

by **TimWoodbury** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:04 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
virus90 wrote:
vote Timwoodbury for getting some activity from him while waiting next part of the disucssion,
curious for your update hotshot.

And your case om Tim Woodberry is what again?

this is the same thing i wondering?? i was away durning the weeend with militay thus little to no chat here. i have tomarrow off can post more then

by **dakky21** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:12 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:And your case om Tim Woodberry is what again?

IB, you remind me of me a lot.. You don't write a lot, just ask questions.
Make a case if you can... posting questions without giving some input makes you scum mate....

by **strike wolf** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:29 pm

dakky21 wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:And your case om Tim Woodberry is what again?

IB, you remind me of me a lot.. You don't write a lot, just ask questions.
Make a case if you can... posting questions without giving some input makes you scum mate....

I find this post hilarious.

by **ptlowe** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:50 pm

After looking through the last few days posts. I feel like the parties looking like scum are streaker for my previous claim. Strike Wolf. I think wing made a very strong case on him and I agree. If wing is wrong we may need to look at him.

I am very suspicious of Bos. She is playing completely different from last game. Other than that people look town. Tim is his usual self. I dont like mitch soo silent. That doesn't seem legitimate. Ive played a few games with end and he appears town to me.

unvote vote strike

by **strike wolf** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:24 pm

Last few posts from Dakky:

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Bandwagon vote.

IN reference to being asked why he town read Endgame:

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But you were defending him before he stated that he would not claim. So this is at best a half truth.

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I am lumping these two together because I am considering them to be effectively an empty gesture. He has stated that he doesn't want a no lynch and he has stated that he town reads Endgame so unless someone comes up with another big case that could gain steam (which Dakky has not done so far, he seems content to waiting around and casually making posts), the logical conclusion is that it would just fall back on me and there was no reason for his action except to either gain townie points from a false action or actually aid towards there being a no lynch.

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So he's playing like you and that makes him scum? Perhaps I am missing some thing here.

Major Cases started:

IB-1; Dakky-0

I can only really assume that you forgot this because I know you didn't skim this but your posts in general have not been good.

Vote Dakky The false reasoning for town reading Endgame is as bad as anything from the last few posts. it just furthers the point that he blindly put that out there. Endgame could be his scum buddy or he could just be trying to buddy up to a town about to be lynched for town credit. Either seems pretty likely to me. Followed by the fact that he seems to talk a bit of the big talk in his last post but hasn't really done much actually uniquely constructive to the game. I think this is pretty solid.

I may or may not make comments about Bosaa at some point tomorrow. I thought I had something on him but I realized I had gotten a couple of his posts mixed up with something that Marashu had actually said. So I need to go back and reread him again in context before I can say more definitively. He has jumped a couple wagons but there has been some content in between two. THe earlier case seems to have been in part based on a misunderstanding about which vote he was talking about.

I'll echo people questioning Virus about Tim. The attack seemed to come out of nowhere and against one of the people who wasn't among the top 3 most inactive.

@Endgame: I may need to relook. It's possible I looked at the wrong game when searching. Also since I didn't get around to it earlier. I felt it was already a two horse race by the time I made my vote (I waited too long that's on me) and I felt at the time, reasonably confident that you were mafia. My opinion has changed a little bit since then but I still think you are potential scum.

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