NoS's Matrix6 Mafia GAME OVER, SCUM WIN!

by **NoSurvivors** on Tue Jun 09, 2015 4:42 pm

Vote Count
Streaker (1): IB
IB (2): Streaker, Storr (L-2)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is next monday, June 15th at 10pm EST.

***MOD NOTE: Potter has been prodded.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:40 pm

StorrZerg wrote:To confirm myself as town. To know if a bp is in the game, to know if there is a rb.

He set the claim mass claim up in hopes of outing a mafia fake claim. If he didn't claim first then his plan makes more sense. He can confirm bp, rather than have doubt that bp is fake after.

His plan had merit, and claiming today prevents us from having to decide tomorrow. Any pr claim tomorrow after 2 town deaths is sketch. Mafia are sure to claim that day, and town could very well mislynch. It's not like he is cop waiting for more checks.

From my perspective that strategy screams stupidity. Now if Streaker and Wing are telling the truth someone such as your self can march in and push for my lynch,which plays right into mafia hands. This is a team game not a game of gotcha, no matter what any one chooses to believe. Setting a trap when there is no need to, outing the prime PR when there is no need. I jumped on it for the illogical nature of the whole thing, a nice way of saying BAD Play.

I have no problem taking the lynch BUT with you Storr sewing more confusion I strongly believe you are scum if Streaker and Wing are both who they say. The problem we now have is Mtam and Potters voices are sorly needed and they are not available.

by **mtamburini** on Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:43 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
mtamburini wrote:I will be on vacation until next friday

Why the fck you tell us now? We could of had VI lynched for good or bad, which would have at least kept End alive. Now you get to lay low for a week and not say anything. You could have notified the mod this would be the case. Just one more example of your lack of respect for fellow mafia players.

Hey IB go f*ck yourself. Greetings from the Dominican bitch f*ck

by **mtamburini** on Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:51 pm

Case on IB? Can someone summarize it for me?

And IB you should fucking no better than to talk during the night phase, talk about respect for others. If you had a fucking issue with my post you could've taken the same advice that you had given for me and pm the mod.

And again f*ck you

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:57 pm

After Streaker claimed, IB has called for him to be lynched because he cannot possibly actually be Jailkeeper. Without a counterclaim to prove Streaker not to be jailkeeper, its somewhat suspect to be continuing to push, and keep pushing after multiple have objected, against the only confirmed town (Potter claim not withstanding).

by **Iron Butterfly** on Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:09 pm

mtamburini wrote:Case on IB? Can someone summarize it for me?

And IB you should fucking no better than to talk during the night phase, talk about respect for others. If you had a fucking issue with my post you could've taken the same advice that you had given for me and pm the mod.

And again f*ck you

Back at ya sunshine. Now lets see if you can use your super scum hunting skills free of prejudice. The good news is there is no Serial Killer this game.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:10 pm

mtamburini wrote:Case on IB? Can someone summarize it for me?

And IB you should fucking no better than to talk during the night phase, talk about respect for others. If you had a fucking issue with my post you could've taken the same advice that you had given for me and pm the mod.

And again f*ck you

Lazy bastard read the case yourself.

by **mtamburini** on Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:50 pm

Meh I'm just gonna policy lynch you and hope for the best.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:33 am

Can someone explain how policy lynch works, the mafiascum definition is a bit ambiguous.

by **Streaker** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:50 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Can someone explain how policy lynch works, the mafiascum definition is a bit ambiguous.

Ignore his post about policy lynch. It's just a big OMGUS lynch threat. The only time I have ever seen an actual policy lynch is LAL.

IB, i didn't want to out the prime PR. You guys pushed me (twice) to L-2.
Your logic is filled with holes. When wing saw me claim, he can't be sure that it's the setup with a BP. There's another option out there.
They way wing came out and hinted towards being BP, strongly suggest town and not a false claim. As storr said, mafia knows 100% they can safe claim or not. They'd jump on it like chickens on corn (insta free town circle).

Yet you keep pushing your argument that I cannot possibly be a PR. You didn't even bother waiting for a cc, even pushed against cc'ing in general so you can lynch me. That strongly suggest mafia play trying to get rid of the PR, so you can win the game tomorrow.

Now you have an entire different game to play, with 2 confirmed town of which 1 is immortal.
I do agree we need the rest of the players in here, contributing (which does not include the fucking policy lynch).

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:04 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:
Streaker wrote:I'm up for mass claiming today.

VOTE STREAKER

YOU are either VT or mafia.

What could Town possibly hope to gain by mass claim?

This is the post which took Streaker to L-2 and prevented Streakers Gambit from drawing out fakeclaims. It didnt help that I had already voted Streaker for his ridiculous vote on Mars for not voting in the first post of D2. My point here is that to complain about the gambit failing in pure hindsight, without considering the cause of failure, is a bit harsh. Both myself and IB put Streaker at L-2 very quickly on D2 preventing anyone from claiming prior to Streaker.

Potter last logged in Sunday night, and has 8 hours until he misses a second turn in the risk game he has open.

Cheers Streaker - My understanding of Policy lynch is that Mtam should be lynched for voting on the basis of policy lynch. Never know he might contribute more friday when he isnt on vacation anymore.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:06 am

Streaker wrote:with 2 confirmed town .

I'm not confirmed until the Roleblocker flops.

by **Streaker** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:10 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Streaker wrote:with 2 confirmed town .

I'm not confirmed until the Roleblocker flops.

I'm going out on half a limb and saying that mafia would have jumped on claiming RB much sooner.

by **Marashu** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:50 am

Vote: IB

I think Wing has made enough town plays to buy that he's BP. I'm still leaning town for mtam, which means for me the choice of IB's scumpartner is Storr and Potter. Potter's absent, so trying to figure anything out on that front is not terribly useful, since we'd only be using D1 reads. As for Storr reads, at first I was thinking he was a bit scummy for wanting the BP claim to confirm Streaker, but looking at his post in which he votes IB, either he is bussing his scumbuddy for making a really bad play, or he's town. Right now I'm believing IB/Potter mafia.

Streaker, let us know who you're jailkeeping in case IB flips RB.

by **Streaker** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:58 am

I don't know who to jail. What do you guys think?

by **Streaker** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:00 am

That's L-1 I need to decide now in case we are mistaken and he is hammered.

I will jail Potter tonight.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:38 am

I'm going to give Potter another day before voting. He usually logs on in my nightime, and he has a turn to take in his risk game. If he misses that then something must be going on that is stopping him from coming online.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:08 am

Ok. I was perhaps in error. I still feel a mass claim was a huge mistake. In essence we have a mass claim anyways lol.

I am a VT. End of story. This is adressed more to Wing. Mafia will not hit you as they will work around you. The game is on your shoulders then.

I can be stubborn and really believed you guys were lying, mafia would not blatantly do that. Have you noticed NO ONE has questioned the mass claim? Why is that? Potter and Mtam are wasted space at this point. So in essence 5 of us.

I find it odd that Storr votes me even though he believes we need to lynch the RB. I guess he belives I am the Role Blocker, hence his vote. But lets go back to my resistence to the mass claim. For argument sake lets make beleive we did. We would be right where we are.

Win as BP, Streaker as Jailer and a mafia rb out there. Now what have we gained and would the claim be in Towns or mafias best interest as it stands? If I were mafia there is no reason for me to resist and fight the way I have. I am going to flip VT, Streaker will most likely die tonight. He could be blocked and worked around but seems silly to do so.

So Wing what then.??? I suggest you look at who is voting me and take notes as the game will be on your shoulders.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:30 am

Mass claim was a mistake, I'm not sure anyone is disputing that.

There is an alternative interpretation of your actions. Jump quickly onto a massclaim call to shut it down and push the initiator to L-2, continue to push in the hope that you can push to L-1 so that your partner can hammer. Upon realising that this wasnt going to happen back off. Neither interpretations have any particular reason for being more likely than the other imo.

My problem is simple, if mafia isnt yourself and Storr, then who is it? Mtam is claimed VT by Violet with the suicidal post. Potter is absent without leave, but that doesnt make him mafia. Mars is a possibility but I just cant see it personally. So now you have dropped your push on Streaker, can you build a sensible case against Mars (or other) for him to be in a scum-pairing with Storr?

by **StorrZerg** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:44 am

I dispute it. I understand the play he was going for, and I likely would have done the same. I would have claimed pr, and stated we mass claim, to keep the details of the the setup hidden.

@wing, got us, I'm bussing ib for mass town cred.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:02 am

So Storr who do you think is the mafia role blocker?

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:33 am

NoSurvivors wrote:
RULES:

14. Everyone is required to vote.

How does this work if one of myself Potter and Mtam were to vote IB, leaving the other two without votes at lynch?

by **StorrZerg** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:34 am

If a lynch is reached before a vote imo it's fine. It's when "deadline " hits and you have no votes

by **StorrZerg** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:39 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:So Storr who do you think is the mafia role blocker?

Nothing has really shown itself to be some as the rb, not like the last game. I don't think it's you though, to active and aggressive.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:19 pm

Potter has missed his turn in his risk game and subsequently been kicked from the game. He isnt in any games anymore and hasnt logged on since sunday. I think its fair to say, Man Down.

Vote IB

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