NoS's Matrix6 Mafia GAME OVER, SCUM WIN!

[Streaker]

Potter has done enough with his last big post to not be killed today. It was as good a contribution as any of us.

If end's vote went to violet i would understand. Not on Potter. it smells of desperation. he was also very jumpy in his posts.

But trust me, i'd be happy to spank vio for that action.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Kinky

Remember End still has my vote on him, I havent placed it yet as the deadline is tomorrow and it puts him at L-1. (I've played with Madmitch a lot recently)

[Streaker]

Kinky

Remember End still has my vote on him, I havent placed it yet as the deadline is tomorrow and it puts him at L-1. (I've played with Madmitch a lot recently)

let him be at L-1, then mitch can hammer again and it's an easy next day again

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Mitch isnt even in this game, thats the worst part. I'm still shellshocked.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

But yes you are correct

Vote End

[NoSurvivors]

I will be replacing Vio. Asking mtamb now. Violet's vote against herself will not count as I am in agreeance with storr about the self-lynch rule. NEW RULE: ANY VOTES CAST AGAINST YOURSELF DO NOT COUNT IN THIS GAME.

I will add this to the front page under "rules".

[NoSurvivors]

Do you guys want another extension to hear from replacement? Or is Tuesday still ok?

[Iron Butterfly]

I apologize that this post is about 5 hours late. I lost track of time tonight.

meh id lynch any of you.

This seems odd and requires an FOS. I understand that he is merely expressing that he doesn't know enough about anyone and therefore does not trust anyone. But you don't want to lynch our resident gifted townie, now do you? Unless, of course, you are mafia. But mafia wouldn't make such a bold affirmation, now would they? More about this later...


I know that all of you wish for me to contribute more. I don't have much to say on many of the arguments being presented. Everyone seems like town to me. Storr maybe seems the least like town, but honestly, my argument on him is too weak to really mention at this point. Only an FOS right now, and a possible return to this line of thought on Day 2, if I live that long.

The main thing that comes to my mind is discussing the possible setup of the game, as I believe that hasn't entered our discussion yet.

The mod did provide a link to give us an idea of the setup of the game:

We have nine players here. We have seven townies and two mafia. Of the seven townies, one will have a special ability, while the other six will be VT's. The special ability will either be: cop, roleblocker, doctor.

I almost don't sense the purpose in claiming this game, because logically, everyone is going to say VT. Each player has a 66% chance of being a VT anyway. The mafia aren't going to admit to being mafia- they will say VT. Each VT will say VT. The gifted townie will only admit to his/her ability with good cause. There is only an 11% chance of that.

I still don't mind being the sacrificial lamb. I have two main reasons for this: It has been argued that No Lynch normally benefits mafia more than it benefits town. With about 36 hours until the deadline, and only two individuals at L-1, there doesn't seem to be a clear consensus yet. I predict a mad rush coming on Monday. To prevent the possible aggravation, I will volunteer myself if nothing better presents itself.

Once the events of the night occur, it may give more clarity to the arguments of Day 1. Town will have more to go on and mafia will have more to conceal.

If the following occurs:
Day 1: VT lynched
Night 1: VT killed
Day 2: 4 VT's remaining, gifted townie, two mafia

If a mafia member is not lynched on Day 2, then town enters a critical LYLO situation on Day 3. But hopefully our gifted resident will have a good Night 1, or a good Night 2, and provide us with just enough to capture the mafia.

Reason #2-
I did get annoyed earlier.

There were posts calling me inactive during what I felt was still the joke vote stage. I felt I had posted enough. Again, not too much and not too little, but just enough. I thought it was a non-issue. But then it was mentioned again, and I even received a prod from the moderator. I don't mind being prodded/pressure when I am truly inactive. But it just all seemed premature, as I mentioned before.

When it comes to certain duties, I tend to do just enough of what I need to do- no more, no less. I thought early on that posting once every other day was sufficient (I can understand the need to post more often when a deadline is approaching or at a critical moment of the game). But on Day 1, especially early on when everyone is joking and pulling strings out of thin air, don't expect any over eagerness from me.

I can be a stubborn individual at times, which doesn't always go over too well in Mafia.
Asking me to post over and over, will just make me not want to post at all. Once I have been put off by something, it is somewhat difficult to bring me back. I don't think I can enjoy Day 1 much at this point.
However, I don't want to be the type of player who is unhelpful to town or who ruins the game for others. Even I will admit that I have been the most unhelpful player in this game thus far. If I live until Day 2, I will try to be more helpful to the town. If I don't, that's okay. Playing mafia used to be one of my biggest passions on this site, maybe second to my clan. But I just got a really crummy start in this game. I feel that if needed, I should make room for the players who are playing well, having fun, and contributing greatly to this game.

Again, I am volunteering myself. Please refer back to my setup.

I have much respect for the mod, and I don't mean to be detrimental to his game. I apologize for this Nos. Thank you for allowing me to play.

Unvote.

Vote Violet


If all are in agreement with me being sacrificed, then follow suit. If a sudden change occurs, then don't put me at L-5. I just know that we need something to happen that will help the town test my setup idea on Day 2.

Spoiler

I know what you all are thinking. I am either a pitiful VT or a really bold mafia member. I assure you that it is the former.

Complete waste of time. Why even play? I suspected you were not mafia. We all have our doubts. But as I keep stating the only real criteria votes have been on Potter and VI were for lack of posts. My initial vote on Potter was his short post,which I thought odd but now makes sense.

If you suicide it is a disrespect to us as players. I will personally never play a game you are in. This whole attitude is a waste of everyone's time and a complete cop out. All that is asked is that you post a bit more...not a big deal. If you do not wish to play you could have found a replacement.

[StorrZerg]

Honestly. I hammered violet for a reason. As far as I'm concerned day should be over.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

You didnt, you put her at L-1, then NoS refused to count the self vote so down to L-2 now.

I understand your viewpoint though.

[PottersEdge]

Another extension would be great.

Also, Unvote End so that the replacement can't just come in, sum up the posts and hammer without any extra debate. Still the scummiest to me though, especially after his sudden change of heart from Vi to me when asked his opinion on me.

Violet has wound me up with her play. For someone who I read has had over 20 games it reeks of one of two things.

1) VT who really doesn't want to be a VT so is going to act idiotically in order to get out of the game
2) Mafia trying really hard to look like #1 but not get lynched.

I'm also going to try and make the town circles comment a bit clearer because people didn't seem to get it the way it was phrased. In many games that I've played, you notice a trend. People who make logical, coherent progressive moves in an obviously pro town way, tend to stick together and often you will see a mafia member hook on with one of these and attempt to be seen as part of the group without making much in the way of contribution towards it.

Someone asked me for my reads.

I already said that streaker, Wing, IB are town in my mind and I stick by this,

Storr is making some good town leaning posts but I would also like to hear his answer to this:

What's up with Storr voting potter? He didn't post a lot yet, but his last one was actually very good with a couple decent reads in it. I have Potter leaning town right now. What do you see, storr?.

As the initial vote on me was for not being very active

Actually probably not wing or ib, stupid petty fight probably townie.

As for Ibs care, i dont think its a bad case. Odd that it hasn't gotten any traction, while violet has.
slightly more active with just 1 more post.

Unvote
Vote Poter

Then followed up with not being happy with me voting end for trying to keep the deadline the same. Whilst I still think Storr is slightly more town (And I disagree with Vi about the lynching any of us comment, that seemed more like a throwaway frustration past to me) than scum, if End flips scum he will go to #1 on my list.


Violet did seem town to me, but recent events have pushed me to neutral (see above)

Marashu gave some good reads but I just haven't seen enough to put into one side or the other.
Hotshot I would like some reads off of now, we have had nearly a whole day which is plenty of time to get some basic suspicions going

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Mars has disappeared come to think of it...

Do we cut our losses and lynch Violet? Doesnt seem right when I dont have a strong mafia vibe from him/her. But actively not helping isnt going to get better as the game goes on, and only VT. Still doesnt seem right.

[StorrZerg]

Not sure why potters is reading me fairly town. Haven't done that much besides wagon and hammer a vote.

[NoSurvivors]

I don't think you hammered....

[Marashu]

Not sure why potters is reading me fairly town. Haven't done that much besides wagon and hammer a vote.

Are you admitting that you shouldn't be read as town?

Well, this shipwreck turned into a trainwreck in a hurry. Unvote.

I'm too exhausted atm to do a proper read - I'll reread everything in a few hours. For now, though, I want to ask Storr, what's your read on Streaker as of right now?

[StorrZerg]

I don't have a town read on him.

I'll still lynch anyone. But not end. I don't like the case against him

[NoSurvivors]

mtamburini replaces Violet.

EDIT: Deadline is extended to thursday at 9pm EST so that mtamb can catch up.

[Marashu]

Welcome to the island, mtam!

I'll still lynch anyone. But not end. I don't like the case against him

Why not? I get the reason for not liking the case about the deadline, but what about the case for his vote switch? To me, at least, it almost feels like fishing for claims.

I asked about Streaker because your arguments keep seeming to point to him - first directly with the scumslip, then indirectly with the suggestion that proposing an extension is more in line with the mafia, which was his suggestion. To me, that line of reasoning seems really wifom, but with that piling up, why keep your vote on Vio/Mtamb instead of Streaker? By my count, even with Vio's self vote, that would be L-1, not hammer.

[StorrZerg]

the indirect comment wasn't directed at anyone in particular, just mafia are more likely to go with that. Its generally town favorable to want more time for X amount of reasons.

Still deciding if streaker scum slip means anything, ill wait for tambo to pop in and voice that.

Pretty sure i had hammer on violet. Regardless back to streaker, well see what happens.

[mtamburini]

Hi my name is mtamburini and I will be replacing VIOLET this game.

This is meta breaking results.

If anyone is online and would like to chat Im here and would like to pick your brain on what you though of Violet

[Streaker]

Hi mtamb good to have you. If you'll just place your vote on End we can get things along. Oh, and read my posts about him first.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I'm going to rage about why you tried to kill yourself Mtam! But seriously, any ideas what on earth was going on Mtam? Vi offered nothing, then send look I'm town, I'll prove it by voting for myself.

I know I did similar in the last game, but I did that in anger, Vi was incredibly calm about it all.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

EBWOP Said "look I am town"

[Iron Butterfly]

Hi mtamb good to have you. If you'll just place your vote on End we can get things along. Oh, and read my posts about him first.

The deadline has been extended to Thursday so whats the rush?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I missed that bit. Good cause I am in meeting all day today