[OFFICIAL] C9 Mafia - GAME OVER - TOWN WINS!!

[Iron Butterfly]

Probably lose us the game, But lynch Storr for pretending not to be doc?

FIGHT ME

See this is the crap that puts slander on the top of my list as the safer lynch. Same problems as last game *grin*

[StorrZerg]

Probably lose us the game, But lynch Storr for pretending not to be doc?

FIGHT ME

See this is the crap that puts slander on the top of my list as the safer lynch. Same problems as last game *grin*

Cause he is inactive?

[Iron Butterfly]

Probably lose us the game, But lynch Storr for pretending not to be doc?

FIGHT ME

See this is the crap that puts slander on the top of my list as the safer lynch. Same problems as last game *grin*

Cause he is inactive?

Come on man. More then that. I would think you have played with me just enough to know a little of how I play. I do not feel like reposting my reasons as I have already done so. Last game we knew Hot Shot was in one group and was a sure lynch, we differed between Strike and Virus. I second guessed wrong after almost lynching a sure thing.

I am almost positive Slander is mafia while choosing among the other three I do not feel as confident especially given Wings last statement. Wing has risen in my book while end has lowered in mine as the game wore on.

But yeh being inactive has hurt him as well. I remember my first timeI was mafia and there was a differing psychology, a self consciousness if you will. You have seen how eloquent and pithy he can be in his presentation yet always people pleasing and apologetic to any criticism. He had no convictions yet would sheep others and said as such. Takes a while for a game to roll to get a feel for how folks play so as to re read their history especially as the game wears on.

[StorrZerg]

While you are sure of my alignment, I'm not sure of you :/

I still see endgame as mafia.

[Slander]

I haven't "lurked" since this game began. Without exception I post every time I log on and read through what everyone has said. I just got moved to midnight shift, so I'm a little bit messed up right now. I'm sleeping a lot.

No doc claim for a while was fairly puzzling. I believed IB was town until these last few comments. He keeps repeating this crap about how startling self-healing doc is. Why are you so surprised as to mention it more than once? For a moment I thought you were actually doc making a sweet power play (claim cop then self-heal every night). But now Storr claims the second role.. super convenient because he's been cleared as Town by IB, right? So now we know WITHOUT A DOUBT they are both town. Nah, I really don't buy it. It seemed plausible initially but it's just too perfect. For instance, both of them spout off how it's only logical for doc to hard claim here yet Storr takes his sweet time to claim himself. Does he actually want to see a false claim first or is he just waiting to see if the game actually has a doc before he claims unopposed? If he claimed immediately I would have been much more inclined to believe him.

I was under the impression that mafia would not pass up on a free kill but I'm having second thoughts on that now. I'm a goon because I am apologetic and because I don't post enough. Sorry I don't spam my hot opinions on how you're ready to bandwagon literally anyone but your new friend. Only mafia would care so little about how the votes went. Do you have a real case against anyone IB or are you just going to keep pretending to run the game with baseless accusations? It looks like everything is going to get quite polarizing here: either you are on the IB train or you aren't. Admits to hammering MP for a bullshit reason then claims MP brought it on himself, while still holding me accountable for being part of that vote. Maybe if you weren't ranting for the sake of ranting you would be able to make up your damn mind. I think he constructed this entire bluff because he expected at least one town to come forward and counter claim off MP. He took no counter claim as a sign we were in a copless game.

Why the f*ck would mafia NOT nightkill if there is no doc?

Hmm I wonder.. Here again we see IB as the first to press an argument. Whoever speaks first on an issue is automatically the most sincere on it, right?

I'm not sure about Storr but I have serious doubts about IB. Endgame was almost just voted off in a flash because of a nothing reason; I suspect that isn't the last time that will happen. I encourage others not to vote for a while. The mob would love a rash lynch with little discussion. There are a lot more questions that need to be answered before we proceed.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I started the self heal doc suggestion not IB....

btw IB and Storr I was joking when I suggested lynching Storr. If you two arent both Town I rate our chances of winning the game very low. I just dont see why Storr felt the need to drag the doc claim out, it was unnecessary.

Storr, you have to make a choice as to whether to trust IB. At night you will need to defend yourself or IB, It would be better if you defend IB and then allow him to get a read on one of the remaining players. Its suicide for yourself but should mean a town win.

Slander isnt happy about Endgame getting lynched. I fail to see why any town would object at this point, mafia has to be amongst myself, virus, end and slander or were doomed to a fake follow the cop. My read is that Virus is the other Town, but if you want to lynch him I would follow because 2 out of 3 must be mafia.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

[quote="Slander" There are a lot more questions that need to be answered before we proceed.[/quote]

What are these questions?

[Slander]

IB quotes:

Many times I do not trust my gut but my first instinct on slander is he is the fresh newbie who drew mafia and so wants to act Town and is gung ho to hunt scum. He makes several newbie mistakes but is able to hide behind the newbie card YET he comes across as a seasoned logical vet. He has played a very good game for a new comer.

Slander you are good One person does not make a lynch however. You were the first vote on him and it was a reasonable vote. You are trying so hard to be contrite when there is no reason to be contrite. MP lynched himself and could have cost us the game. You seem to think that by sounding sincere and apologizing that that somehow makes you Town. I would be more inclined to believe you if you had stood up and fought for your reasoning. You had him on your list as hard Town.

I find it interesting that you apologized as well in your opening post for any future Town you may lynch as well, which to me set alarm bells off. This is your first mafia game. Mafia needs to kill Town. To me this reeks as an insurance policy to cover yourself for when it would happen.

A seasoned mafia player would fight tooth and nail with no apologies for why he did what he did. Your inexperience leads me to believe you are not quit sure, hence the playing of the newbie card several times mixed with the apologies.

So scum team of slander virus is your thoughts

Personally I believe Slander is mafia.

For the record. I vote the way Stor does. I KNOW he is Town.

Storr...remember why we lost last game. I truly believe Slander is mafia as well.

See this is the crap that puts slander on the top of my list as the safer lynch.

I am almost positive Slander is mafia while choosing among the other three I do not feel as confident especially given Wings last statement. Wing has risen in my book while end has lowered in mine as the game wore on.

But yeh being inactive has hurt him as well. I remember my first timeI was mafia and there was a differing psychology, a self consciousness if you will. You have seen how eloquent and pithy he can be in his presentation yet always people pleasing and apologetic to any criticism. He had no convictions yet would sheep others and said as such. Takes a while for a game to roll to get a feel for how folks play so as to re read their history especially as the game wears on.

Reasons IB thinks I'm mob:
-Forced apologetic tone
-Hiding behind the newbie card
-inactive

Storr quotes:

I'm not buying slander so much with his overly apologetic approach right now.

He might be mafia yea. Exactly why we should talk more about him

Slender is lurking

Reasons Storr thinks I'm mob:
-Forced apologetic tone
-inactive

O end game of course, he is mafia.
Endgame422
I found his vote to be the scummiest.

Kk endgame is mafia.

also I did vote, and only removed it for more to be said.
As for everyone else. Need to find out who is mafia between ib, wing, slander

I still see endgame as mafia.

Reasons Storr thinks Endgame is mob:
N/A

Next let's take a look at just how incredibly hard Storr makes sure no one is doc before claiming it for himself:

If the doc claims then we have majority if the save was not on IB....
since who ever doc saved is confirmed...
SO doc please claim, games auto.

Are you the medic?

Do you think medic should claim?

he has now claimed to not be the doc, and is pushing you. You have 3 people pushing you, time to fully claim.

If you are the doc, you better claim. Cause i'm dead serious about lynching you today.

With that doc is either not in this game.
Or doc is Endgame422, Slander, WingCmdr Ginkapo.
wing did you save me last night? is that why you are following my lead on endgame?

Either endgame is mafia or he is the doc, he hard claimed thought a doc was in the game super early.
Likely he was shot in the night if he was the doc, so he needs to just confirm it. Mafia KNOW who they targeted, so its not helping anyone to not come out today. Just denies TOWN information.

why did you think he was the doc? can you explain why??

you haven't actually explained why you think he is doc other than "well i think he is doc"

what gave it away that you thought he was doc?
I mean you tell me logic as to why i'm not the doc fantastic.
yet its not ib we know that.
Doesn't mean it couldn't be WCG or slander. Yet you seemed to be pretty confident that it was virus. The better you can explain why you thought he was medic, will help my read on you. as of now you seem to just giving tiny bits of information.

it's possible doc self saved, doesn't make sense to not claim... mafia know who was saved lol

Aggressive as hell about this doc thing.

I really wanted to fight a fake claim.

Sure

WCG quotes:

Vote Endgame
I will vote as Storr does. The only thing that is certain is that he is town. And to be honest, I also think End is mafia after that post above.

i guess its endgame & slander then.

Reasons WCG suspects endgame:
-bandwagon

Reasons WCG suspects me:
N/A*
*but probably more bandwagoning

IB:

If it's any consolation the mod is SUPER quick...I changed my mind after 30 min or so...he had already given results. Can't prove it but whatever. I would have checked WCG or Slander.
With you seeming not to be doc we should be good.

If Storr actually did self-heal a kill on him last night, this post is fairly incriminating as another convenient accident from IB (haven't seen that one from him yet).

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Slander - Who do you think is Mafia?

[StorrZerg]

Next bomb shell.

I didn't self save. I saved virus cause I fucking read mafia like a book.

I hadn't done shit day 1 to get shot, but what did virus do?
Besides Being really town, he wasn't on the miss lynch and who was he pushing hard endgame.


why is there a huge lack of pressure on virus? Cause mafia know he was saved and are scared to push him.

Hence why endgame can't explain really why virus was medic.


Boom goes the dinosaurs.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Blimey.

Just re-read everything post night with that news. IB first suggested that Virus was his biggest mafia read, not the likely actions of someone who knows there is a doc who knows more. Surely he would have gone for me or End/Slander if he knew this?

End's avoidance of suggesting Virus as Mafia and claiming that he had to be doc is very telling now.

Option A - We have doc and cop. Easy play, lynch End, cop checks Slander. Storr dies tonight

Option B - We have just cop. Lynch Storr. IB dies tonight and we have very low chance of finding the other mafia. To be honest this scenario seems ridiculous, as it would have relied on mafia not killing last night. I'd put Virus as the other mafia in this case, but just seems too far fetched.

Option C - We have just doc. Lynch End/IB. Storr self saves so Virus or I die. Lynch End/IB tomorrow. Plausible, but do we have anyway of knowing?

Option D - No power role - Straightforward again. Ends actions basically confirm that we do have a doc though. Which puts us in option A or option C. I dont see how we find a way to differentiate. I dont think IB knew about the Virus being saved though.

[Iron Butterfly]

Boom go the dinosaurs.

[StorrZerg]

Wing option only.

Lynch who is playing scummy.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Vote End

[StorrZerg]

Still not ready to go to the night.


IB could be mafia while I'm real doc with virus town.

So I need to hear more from the others

Wing / slander / virus

Particular if they buy ib story., what they think of endgame and who else might be mafia

[Iron Butterfly]

So why exactly are you not reading me as town? No mind meld between us?? Geez.

With your saving Virus there is now you three for sure in my book. I am not going to try and convince you of my towniness. If you don't have a town read on me by now you never will.

This is why I have Slander as top on my list. Slander is one group. End and Wing the other. The better lynch would be slander in my book.

[StorrZerg]

End game has far more pointing directly at him

[virus90]

to be honest i thought i would be targeted tonight aswell, so im not at all surprised that i was med-saved. i was a fairly obvious choice indeed i think, wasnt among the ones to vote MP and didnt make many friends. And i think storr would save me if he was the doc.
also on speculations mentioned before i believe there is a doc and/or cop. 2 claiming without any counterclaims seems that its either true or they took the gamble of claiming powerroles, at this point i dont really believe in that "far fetched"scenario anymore.

as for how to continue; i think another night fase might be the best way to go. we need to lynch the right person of the endgame slander wing trio. i think its endgame slander but failure to lynch mafia is probably the end of the game. unless they fail to kill once more, but lets not bet on that.
we still have 1 shot at finding our first scum, and chances are that we will find prove of the claims (someone getting killed) and so we know where to go. besides we might have a cop report and can do a little follow the cop.

fped by ib
and storr

[virus90]

as to what i think about IB,
he is still a possible scum,
but, i think he is indeed the cop, it would explain hammering MP. else he is just playing scum very well, but i see no reason to be lynching him today at this point

[StorrZerg]

I think mafia plan today was virus dead, then lynch ib for hammering mp.

Would explain the lack of counter claim with team of endgame + one of slander wing.

Mp being vt faking cop really throws my read on ib for a loop. Again still camping. Still need time.

no one else should be voting endgame for now.
I'll be around late tonight

[Slander]

Oh boy, another fascinating tale from Storr.
It's interesting he chooses to just change his story instead of addressing my post.
And this time he extends a hand into the audience.

Vote StorrZerg

[StorrZerg]

You vote for the wrong person fyi.

Only way I'm mafia is if ib Is mafia.

I can still be town with ib mafia.

[StorrZerg]

Also lynching the doctor automatically loses the game. On by chance ib is real, I would still have an opportunity to save the game.

[Endgame422]

I don't even know what to say here.
IB and storr are both proven liars in this game.
And yet they are essentially the only people who are safe right now.
Why lie repeatedly about your role storr? You said yourself lying about doc only hurts town.
Why lie about the hammer IB? If you were confident he was scum(and your the cop) why not just start with that(on day two) instead of some BS about your wife?
Just to "spice up" a game with a bunch of newbies?

[StorrZerg]

I lied to bait mafia In a counter claim.
Since I had real motivation to save virus. I could explain and win vs a fake claim. I'm a very confident player.

Also with the given information no matter what virus is confirmed town.

@slander what question.