Double Fanucci Mafia (4/14) Endgame

[StorrZerg]

@TA1LGUNN3R

I was going to respond to a lot of your stuff, and you have no idea how much in pains me to not bash your views on the current state of affair, or pull my massive dick out to slap you (as in i've played way more mafia games than you have)

In short, it doesn't matter, what matters is I don't like why you are pushing wing, because its a joke of a reason. Secondly i don't like how you keep defending yourself that you didn't miss read his statement regarding lynching. I think its becoming quite obvious your view point on what a normal lynch is in fact a "random lynch", while he was talking about something different.

Ball is in your court, i wait your unvote, or your evolved read on wing.

[rishaed]

Who is up for an rng lynch?

You miss out on the hunt of endlessly pursuing half of town and some of mafia on D1? I am shocked!

Who is up for an rng lynch?

Can you clarify your definition of "rng lynch" please

A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.

Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch. With so many roles, the night should be telling, but having no conjecture from day 1 is a bad idea in my opinion. Should have as much information as possible about D1 lynch so it gives us something to work with D2. No reason to rush this.

I agree as far as the notion of pushing buttons and trying to getting something from D1.

Can you clarify your definition of "rng lynch" please

A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.

Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch.

unvote

vote wingcmdr

While I can't say I've agreed with every word Wingcmdr has said so far...I feel this was taken a bit out of context and I don't think he was actually pushing for a no lynch.

A random lynch, that is not influenced by people.

Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch.

unvote

vote wingcmdr

Please explain Mets why you have taken my comment out of context? I did not suggest no lynch. I suggested that a random dice roll lynch would provide as little information as well as taking a player, likely town, out of the game. This is the second time you have taken a tiny remark from me and turned it into a scum claim.

Why do you so badly want me lynched when there are 14 players in this game, a lot of whom have not posted yet?

Mets is pushing your buttons like an excited kid on an elevator who wants to go to every floor. I agree with others that you are overly defensive AND guilty of the same thing you accuse Mets of, taking things out of context. I have not seen him post anything remotely suggesting that he wants to lynch you.
Faile studied the woman. "You don't understand him at all, do you?"

You know. Other than the fact that he voted for you.
"It's beautiful, Jur,"

I am kind of surprised that the fact that Mtam basically admitted to knowing that there are third party in this game was so easily overlooked. Of course it doesn't mean anything solid as of yet.
"Would they agree to this?" Bair asked.

Edit before post: He's new to this forum (which is something to consider) but he is not new to mafia from what I can tell.

Perrin continued to chew on his food, thoughtful.

[Army of GOD]

mtam, the only read I have so far is mets being slightly scummy. He jumped on the wng vote quickly because lynching someone who argues for a no lynch is always the easiest thing to do day 1


and I say that as someone who usually supports day 1 no lynches. but I've had to give up that practice because everyone loses their minds over it.

I think everyone who plays mafia is smart enough to know that wanting a day 1 lynch will bring a lot of heat, so I don't think someone would be that stupid and willingly want a day 1 lynch while being scum

[Army of GOD]

oh and TG is slightly scummy too, for the same reason.


not much else to go on though. I'm always wary of Storr because of his "f*ck everyone" play style but he always seems to be town when he does that.

[Army of GOD]

oh and so yeah, my grandpa passed away yesterday and his funeral is this weekend so I won't be able to post much between tomorrow and Sunday.

[HotShot53]

We can lynch wcg, overly defensive.

vote wcg

I wouldn't call wing "overly defensive"... he is getting somewhat serious votes put on him, so of course he is on the defensive, just as anyone who's getting voted would be. If anything I would think he might be scum from defending himself too calmly lol.

I completely agree but I think hotshot has TMI with this statement trying to buy some early day1 towncred EGMEOY

Wait, TMI? What information do I have? I wish I knew the information I'm supposed to know lol. I just think people saying people are scum for being defensive is kind of misguided when what else is he supposed to do except defend himself when people are voting him?

[Streaker]

Rishaed on a PR? Or is this usual stuff for you

Man, I love how Storr can get reactions from people.


I'm concerned about Tails' quick vote on Wing. While I fully agree on the principle of lynching is better then no lynch, you were awfully quick to place that vote. It just feels like an auto-move, and it feels to me like you want to shut down the day already. The same can be said of Mets, though he is putting more effort in defending his vote.

If Wing does turn out mafia, note that AoG soft defended Wing.

Teegee needs to post more.

We can lynch wcg, overly defensive.

vote wcg

I wouldn't call wing "overly defensive"... he is getting somewhat serious votes put on him, so of course he is on the defensive, just as anyone who's getting voted would be. If anything I would think he might be scum from defending himself too calmly lol.

I completely agree but I think hotshot has TMI with this statement trying to buy some early day1 towncred EGMEOY

Wait, TMI? What information do I have? I wish I knew the information I'm supposed to know lol. I just think people saying people are scum for being defensive is kind of misguided when what else is he supposed to do except defend himself when people are voting him?

I agree with this statement. Yes Wing was defensive, but not in an overly dramatic fashion. I feel he simply adressed the attention I put on him.

Right now I've got Storr pinned as mafia, with AoG slight mafia read. Got a town feeling of HotShot as well.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

@TA1LGUNN3R

I was going to respond to a lot of your stuff, and you have no idea how much in pains me to not bash your views on the current state of affair, or pull my massive dick out to slap you (as in i've played way more mafia games than you have)

In short, it doesn't matter, what matters is I don't like why you are pushing wing, because its a joke of a reason. Secondly i don't like how you keep defending yourself that you didn't miss read his statement regarding lynching. I think its becoming quite obvious your view point on what a normal lynch is in fact a "random lynch", while he was talking about something different.

Ball is in your court, i wait your unvote, or your evolved read on wing.

Haha what? You've been playing here a paltry year. I've been playing here five years. You may play on other sites, but that means little here. Each site is different and has its own flavor.

There are two games currently active, and if you'll refer to mafia discussion you'll find my views regarding the quality of late. Don't presume to tell me how the game stands when compared to the past. The player pool as it stands is severely lacking in action. Sorry, that's the way it is. I already justified my reasons. I'll break it down simply, because here's what generally happens:

-No D1 lynch, people hem and haw, and wait for night actions to guide them, game usually dies out or proceeds at a snail's pace while people drop out and replacements never come because the pool is small.

Or

-Somebody overreacts (kinda like you're doing now) when somebody else tries to get the game moving and the game becomes a yelling match between personalities, and the game devolves into a pathetic caricature of mafia. It generally dies out as well.

So, the options are:

• Run out the clock on useless D1 discussion banalities
• No lynch
• An actual case appears (however this can't happen without breaking a few eggs)
• Get the game moving by being willing to take a shot

Dude, like seriously, just go check out how many abandoned games there are in the archives, or how many games have replaced players, or how many take months to complete, or how many end in D1 lyncher, or yada yada yada.

I'm attempting to get the game moving, you're reaching for a reason to bring me under fire. I don't mind, really. Just bring something substantial, not your "massive dick."

-Tails

[Streaker]

Tails, I don't agree with the reasoning behind your post there. You are using the inactive mafia forum as a reason to quick lynch someone for a mistake (and yes I agree it was a mistake).

What you call 'running out the clock' is probably the best thing to do on D1, as that gives everyone the most time and posts to look back to on future days. The option of 'no lynch' should not be considered an option, more of a 'town fail'.

Your third point of a case appearing would be great, and running out the clock gives us most chances of this happening.

Don't get me wrong, you are doing a great job of instigating discussion and getting people on their heels, but you just seem so eager to end the day early and that is more scum then saying a no lynch is better then a random lynch.

[Iron Butterfly]

@TA1LGUNN3R

I was going to respond to a lot of your stuff, and you have no idea how much in pains me to not bash your views on the current state of affair, or pull my massive dick out to slap you (as in i've played way more mafia games than you have)

In short, it doesn't matter, what matters is I don't like why you are pushing wing, because its a joke of a reason. Secondly i don't like how you keep defending yourself that you didn't miss read his statement regarding lynching. I think its becoming quite obvious your view point on what a normal lynch is in fact a "random lynch", while he was talking about something different.

Ball is in your court, i wait your unvote, or your evolved read on wing.

Haha what? You've been playing here a paltry year. I've been playing here five years. You may play on other sites, but that means little here. Each site is different and has its own flavor.

There are two games currently active, and if you'll refer to mafia discussion you'll find my views regarding the quality of late. Don't presume to tell me how the game stands when compared to the past. The player pool as it stands is severely lacking in action. Sorry, that's the way it is. I already justified my reasons. I'll break it down simply, because here's what generally happens:

-No D1 lynch, people hem and haw, and wait for night actions to guide them, game usually dies out or proceeds at a snail's pace while people drop out and replacements never come because the pool is small.

Or

-Somebody overreacts (kinda like you're doing now) when somebody else tries to get the game moving and the game becomes a yelling match between personalities, and the game devolves into a pathetic caricature of mafia. It generally dies out as well.

So, the options are:

• Run out the clock on useless D1 discussion banalities
• No lynch
• An actual case appears (however this can't happen without breaking a few eggs)
• Get the game moving by being willing to take a shot

Dude, like seriously, just go check out how many abandoned games there are in the archives, or how many games have replaced players, or how many take months to complete, or how many end in D1 lyncher, or yada yada yada.

I'm attempting to get the game moving, you're reaching for a reason to bring me under fire. I don't mind, really. Just bring something substantial, not your "massive dick."

-Tails

And your post brings what to this game exactly? You spend a whole post listing reasons why mafia has deteriorated here only to help create a scenario you listed in your rant. Take it to the public discussion, be a bigger man, suck it up...whatever. The same with Storr. Create walls of useless argument and text elsewhere. I understand there is a fine and blurry line between making it personal, playing mafia and what it takes to win. I just find this post on the state of the game and why a useless reason to engage a meaningless tangent.

[StorrZerg]

happy to continue this some place else tails. You are welcome to continue the discussion on the actual game aka your case on wing that im calling out. kthx

[StorrZerg]

Tails, I don't agree with the reasoning behind your post there. You are using the inactive mafia forum as a reason to quick lynch someone for a mistake (and yes I agree it was a mistake).

Please elaborate on what "mistake" you think was made?

[Streaker]

Tails, I don't agree with the reasoning behind your post there. You are using the inactive mafia forum as a reason to quick lynch someone for a mistake (and yes I agree it was a mistake).

Please elaborate on what "mistake" you think was made?

Saying on D1 that you'd prefer a No Lynch over something else. The way he made that post. It's nothing big, but yeah

[StorrZerg]

nvm its in the above post

I'm concerned about Tails' quick vote on Wing. While I fully agree on the principle of lynching is better then no lynch, you were awfully quick to place that vote. It just feels like an auto-move, and it feels to me like you want to shut down the day already. The same can be said of Mets, though he is putting more effort in defending his vote.

wowww... wing agrees that lynching is better than no lynching... so whats your point? why are you giving any credit what so ever to tails push?

I did not suggest no lynch. I suggested that a random dice roll lynch would provide as little information as well as taking a player, likely town, out of the game.

again wings view, a day 1 lynch is different than a "random lynch" of which i proposed. Tails views a day 1 lynch as random regardless. Hence, he took this quote..

Then no, I'd rather see no lynch than random lynch.

To mean he wasn't up for a lynch. Which isn't the case clearly. The quicker we can move on from this, the better...

also explain mafia read on me, and the town read on hotshot

[Streaker]

@TA1LGUNN3R

I was going to respond to a lot of your stuff, and you have no idea how much in pains me to not bash your views on the current state of affair, or pull my massive dick out to slap you (as in i've played way more mafia games than you have)

In short, it doesn't matter, what matters is I don't like why you are pushing wing, because its a joke of a reason. Secondly i don't like how you keep defending yourself that you didn't miss read his statement regarding lynching. I think its becoming quite obvious your view point on what a normal lynch is in fact a "random lynch", while he was talking about something different.

Ball is in your court, i wait your unvote, or your evolved read on wing.

You seem awfully bent on convincing Tails that he is wrong. Almost more important then further hunting.
I don't wanna tell you what or what not to do, but our time on D1 could be better spent.

If you punish Tails for this, then what about Mets? His case is probably worse then this yet you leave him alone. It's just strange that you persue Tails for this, but not Mets for even less of a case.

[StorrZerg]

@TA1LGUNN3R

I was going to respond to a lot of your stuff, and you have no idea how much in pains me to not bash your views on the current state of affair, or pull my massive dick out to slap you (as in i've played way more mafia games than you have)

In short, it doesn't matter, what matters is I don't like why you are pushing wing, because its a joke of a reason. Secondly i don't like how you keep defending yourself that you didn't miss read his statement regarding lynching. I think its becoming quite obvious your view point on what a normal lynch is in fact a "random lynch", while he was talking about something different.

Ball is in your court, i wait your unvote, or your evolved read on wing.

You seem awfully bent on convincing Tails that he is wrong. Almost more important then further hunting.
I don't wanna tell you what or what not to do, but our time on D1 could be better spent.

If you punish Tails for this, then what about Mets? His case is probably worse then this yet you leave him alone. It's just strange that you persue Tails for this, but not Mets for even less of a case.

Its not about being wrong, its about him all ready admitting his case was built up on his own opinion about something, which was not in the same wave length of another.
The reason i can harp on tails, is because he is responding and giving details about his case. Mets started pushing on wing before hand, and i can let that play out. I've argued with mets before and bashed him, Never had the opportunity to push on Tails, so im taking it. (also tails is pushing wing, after both comments had been made, mets pushed with just the first comment and previous remarks)

Regardless it doesn't matter why im not pushing on mets, the point is that TAILS is pushing an extraneous point and isn't backing off on it or expanding to a different reason.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

As I became a discration from this;

Storr why did you suggest a random lynch? Like most you have since agreed that it is a bad idea.

[StorrZerg]

As I became a discration from this;

Storr why did you suggest a random lynch? Like most you have since agreed that it is a bad idea.

Generates discussion

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

As I became a discration from this;

Storr why did you suggest a random lynch? Like most you have since agreed that it is a bad idea.

Generates discussion

Fair enough, worked quite well.

[mtamburini]

We can lynch wcg, overly defensive.

vote wcg

I wouldn't call wing "overly defensive"... he is getting somewhat serious votes put on him, so of course he is on the defensive, just as anyone who's getting voted would be. If anything I would think he might be scum from defending himself too calmly lol.

I completely agree but I think hotshot has TMI with this statement trying to buy some early day1 towncred EGMEOY

Wait, TMI? What information do I have? I wish I knew the information I'm supposed to know lol. I just think people saying people are scum for being defensive is kind of misguided when what else is he supposed to do except defend himself when people are voting him?

VOTE HOTSHOT

Hots last statement shows what being defensive is without receiving any kind of pressure, his sarcastic tone is also indictive of mafia.
SHEEP ME PLZ AND TY

[NoSurvivors]

Sorry all, I only really check cc once a day because of exams but I'll try to more during this mafia game.

We can lynch wcg, overly defensive.

vote wcg

I wouldn't call wing "overly defensive"... he is getting somewhat serious votes put on him, so of course he is on the defensive, just as anyone who's getting voted would be. If anything I would think he might be scum from defending himself too calmly lol.

I completely agree but I think hotshot has TMI with this statement trying to buy some early day1 towncred EGMEOY

Wait, TMI? What information do I have? I wish I knew the information I'm supposed to know lol. I just think people saying people are scum for being defensive is kind of misguided when what else is he supposed to do except defend himself when people are voting him?

VOTE HOTSHOT

Hots last statement shows what being defensive is without receiving any kind of pressure, his sarcastic tone is also indictive of mafia.
SHEEP ME PLZ AND TY

I agree with mta here. I don't think hotshot had anyone really giving him any pressure and yet he seems to have gotten a bit jumpy with his post. I think the bickering between tails and streaker is going in circles. You Gus have pretty much convinced me that a lynch on D1 is best because of lack of discussion before hand (as has been made evident lol) so I'll vote what I think the best case is for now,

vote hotshot

[strike wolf]

I would say this is somewhat reminiscent of the last game where me and Hotshot were both mafia early on with Hotshot being kind of dismissive yet defensive. Right now, I like this case better than the Tails or Wing (My gut feeling on both is that they are town right now). I do want to go back and read though as a few of the recent posts make me feel like I've missed something here.

[strike wolf]

So yeah. I want to hear more from Mets on his case on Wing especially in regards to taking the quote out of context. I want to hear Mtam discuss a bit more about this information that Hotshot seems to know because I am not seeing that part of the case and right now I think the Tails/Storr argument sounds town on town. Tails seems to have a very strong belief in how games die and he's sticking to that. Storr seems to be doing the Storr thing.

[virus90]

ok up to speed with the game and as far as the wing/tail/mets discussion i hereby support the wing side. in my opinion no reason to vote him for the no lynch > random lynch command. in my opinion mets reaction was most prominent of this whole discussion, might take this discussion into consideration in a later stage/ in the bigger picture but for now i dont have much to add, except for my opinion.

im a bit annoyed by the storr - tails discussion as its offtopic and to be honest i dont really like it when things get personal with "massive cocks slapping people" and similar statements. but enough has been said about that aswell.

then to the mtam - third party related part. i believe everything said about it has been obvious jokevotes. dont see much reason to pursue this.

so far im not really fond of the storr performance.
something that strikes me a bit, as of the paradox.

unvote
SO yall are still going to do your joke votes anyways, the random votes seems pretty dumb imo.

Who is up for an rng lynch?

also

We can lynch wcg, overly defensive.
vote wcg

but it did somehow lead to a discussion about being defensive/scummy yes or no. in which hotshot defended wing a bit.

a hotshot vote seems to have started from that, which i can understand since hotshot so far just defended wing and didnt do much more, but.

what stood out most to me was the part in which streaker town reads hotshot. while basicly hotshot hasnt said much but defending the defending of wing.
so i unvote my jokevote and vote streaker, for town reading someone for reasons unclear for me (except reasons i can think of; gaining friends)
also i hope hotshot can say something more then defending is ok.

so: unvote vote streaker

[StorrZerg]

k virus is town, don't lynch him ever kthx