Why arent random maps, "Random"?????

[owenshooter]

Thyseneal (Random)... That is all i have to say... Did not even know this map existed...-Jésus noir

[Dukasaur]

Thyseneal (Random)... That is all i have to say... Did not even know this map existed...-Jésus noir

Considering that map was released in August of 2010, I think it's evidence that you should maybe spend less time in the forums and more time exploring the games.

[owenshooter]

Thyseneal (Random)... That is all i have to say... Did not even know this map existed...-Jésus noir

Considering that map was released in August of 2010, I think it's evidence that you should maybe spend less time in the forums and more time exploring the games.

i can't believe i wasted my 8,902nd post responding to this gibberish... the black jesus is ignoring you ...-Jésus noir

[Donald Fung]

I played a total of 93 random games and these are the maps that showed up more than once:

Portugal 3
WWI Ottoman Empire 3 - 2 of them were on the same week
Age of Realms 2: Magic 2
San Francisco 2
Canada 2
France 2
Ancient Greece 2
The Citadel 2
Chicago 2
Hong Kong 2
King of the Mountains 2
Steamworks 2 - 2 of them were in the same tourny

I would say this is very close to the random probability though, as agentcom mentioned before, not getting any repeats at all is a very low probability. 10 repeats of 2x and 2 repeats of 3x out of 79 chosen maps sounds reasonable.

I think a lot of you are getting crappy maps when you choose the random setting because there is such a high amount of crappy maps in CC altogether...

[owenshooter]

people... please stop bitching about hive... it is now popping up on RANDOM... ugh... i have had 4 of the maps that have under 100 games a month, pop up and now the bullshit that is, HIVE... sigh...-Jésus noir

[Dukasaur]

You're such a crybaby. Looked through your last 3 pages of games. You're drawing 90% good maps, and all you can talk about is the occasional bad one that slips in there.

[owenshooter]

You're such a crybaby. Looked through your last 3 pages of games. You're drawing 90% good maps, and all you can talk about is the occasional bad one that slips in there.

you certainly aren't looking at the games with (RANDOM)... from the first page of recent games

-Cricket
-Hive
-All Your Bases Belong To Us
-Crossword
-Circus Maximus
-Age of Realms 2
-Clandemonium
-Labyrinth
-WWII Ottoman
-Lunar War
-Rail Asia

SUCK-fest must be the random map setting i chose... you can only defend 2 of those maps in my opinion... and even those are questionable... i'm not a whiner, i'm
just a guy that knows when he gets saddled with a shitty map on RANDOM...-Jésus noir

[Endgame422]

You're such a crybaby. Looked through your last 3 pages of games. You're drawing 90% good maps, and all you can talk about is the occasional bad one that slips in there.

you certainly aren't looking at the games with (RANDOM)... from the first page of recent games

-Cricket
-Hive
-All Your Bases Belong To Us
-Crossword
-Circus Maximus
-Age of Realms 2
-Clandemonium
-Labyrinth
-WWII Ottoman
-Lunar War
-Rail Asia

SUCK-fest must be the random map setting i chose... you can only defend 2 of those maps in my opinion... and even those are questionable... i'm not a whiner, i'm
just a guy that knows when he gets saddled with a shitty map on RANDOM...-Jésus noir

That actually seems like a good mix for random.
I guess haters are going to hate though.

[KraphtOne]

It is a fact that it is impossible for a computer program to do anything that is "random"

Now if you enter enough variables you can make it seem "random"... but in the end the outcome can be predicted based upon the formula...

Human's have programmed computers so that their actions appear random but actually are not...

Wait, so what if each person's DNA is its own computer program that essentially makes it seem as though a person's actions are random, but in fact are just outcomes of an algorithm...

Was I pre-destined to make the choices I have made in my life... Am I choosing to write this or am I just following my programming? And if it is the latter, then why would the creator allow my programming to write this... Or am I finally becoming sentient...

Alright I gotta go listen to some Floyd and think about this for a while...

[owenshooter]

That actually seems like a good mix for random.
I guess haters are going to hate though.

when the least played maps have begun to continually pop up in the Random setting, it isn't a good mix... i love a good map that i haven't played or haven't played often... but when a shitty map, LABYRINTH / HIVE, pops up, just sucks... but hey... quote your girl all you want, i play Random almost exclusively now (to keep the site interesting), i'm pretty confident that my non-scientific findings are scientifically sound...-Jésus noir

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

231 out of 251 maps have less than 1000 plays per month. I suspect (with no knowledge whatsoever) that there are a lot of "least played" maps to be selected in random.

[Dukasaur]

You're such a crybaby. Looked through your last 3 pages of games. You're drawing 90% good maps, and all you can talk about is the occasional bad one that slips in there.

you certainly aren't looking at the games with (RANDOM)... from the first page of recent games

-Cricket
-Hive
-All Your Bases Belong To Us
-Crossword
-Circus Maximus
-Age of Realms 2
-Clandemonium
-Labyrinth
-WWII Ottoman
-Lunar War
-Rail Asia

SUCK-fest must be the random map setting i chose... you can only defend 2 of those maps in my opinion... and even those are questionable... i'm not a whiner, i'm
just a guy that knows when he gets saddled with a shitty map on RANDOM...-Jésus noir

Cricket -- greal little map, especially in Poly, lot of strategic depth
Crossword -- kind of ugly, but interesting strategically
Age of Realms 2 -- not my favourite map, but it is the 6th most popular map on the site
Clandemonium -- positively beautiful
Labyryrinth -- fascinating map, interesting options, certainly interesting graphics. Again not my favourite, but objectively speaking a good map.
WW I Ottoman (why is it some people don't know the difference between WW I and WW II?) -- old-fashioned straight geographical map, nothing special but definitely not bad.
Lunar War -- one of the best maps on the site.
So you got a few crappy ones in there -- Hive and Circus Max and All Your Base. You also got some really top-notch maps like Lunar War and Clandemonium and some in between like Ottoman and Crossword. Seems like a reasonably balanced menu to me.

[Endgame422]

That actually seems like a good mix for random.
I guess haters are going to hate though.

when the least played maps have begun to continually pop up in the Random setting, it isn't a good mix... i love a good map that i haven't played or haven't played often... but when a shitty map, LABYRINTH / HIVE, pops up, just sucks... but hey... quote your girl all you want, i play Random almost exclusively now (to keep the site interesting), i'm pretty confident that my non-scientific findings are scientifically sound...-Jésus noir

Im disappointed owen.
Haters gonna hate is from a hip hop song originally.
Yet you go straight to taylor swift.
And my point was i think you got a good mix in that list.
Big maps,small maps,conquest,seems like a pretty random sampling to me.
Wether its a mix of maps you like to play is irrelevant. Thats the inherent risk/fun of random.

[owenshooter]

231 out of 251 maps have less than 1000 plays per month. I suspect (with no knowledge whatsoever) that there are a lot of "least played" maps to be selected in random.

*cough*... i said under 100, not under 1,000... if you are going to be in the discussion, work on your reading comprehension skills... you are debating something that nobody else is debating... good for you, you won your debate, now let the adults continue their discussion...

You also got some really top-notch maps like Lunar War and Clandemonium and some in between like Ottoman and Crossword. Seems like a reasonably balanced menu to me.

sometimes, i forget just how truly hilarious you can be... thanks for the giggle!!! Lunar War!! Clandemonium!!! you really know how to make a guy crack up!! thanks for the giggle!!-Jésus noir

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

now let the adults continue their discussion...

And you wonder why new members of this site never last very long.

27/251 are less than a 100 plays per month. That is a whopping 10.8%.

Also only 1 of the games you played has less than 100 plays per month. Well done on arguing two completely contradictory points to "win" your argument. "Now let the adults continue their discussion"

[owenshooter]

now let the adults continue their discussion...

And you wonder why new members of this site never last very long.

27/251 are less than a 100 plays per month. That is a whopping 10.8%.

Also only 1 of the games you played has less than 100 plays per month. Well done on arguing two completely contradictory points to "win" your argument. "Now let the adults continue their discussion"

FIRST... less than 1% of CC members ever frequent the forums... posts in the forums that point out someone's ignorance or lack of reading comprehension are not the reason for the decline in the site or for new members not coming back...

onto your second statement i bolded... patently false and a total untruth... keep trying... you are going to hit on some pertinent fact at some point, even if by blindly fumbling over it...-Jésus noir

p.s.-i feel no need to be kind or accommodating to a returning members that used his first return forum post to put me in C&A over your feelings getting hurt over my use of THE BLACK JESUS... you have to earn respect in the forums, you just aren't given it...

[owenshooter]

ahhhh, let's give this another ride... now, all the Age of Realms maps and other suck-fest specialist maps are popping up... Kings court twice and Thrice for Realm maps in a recent random sampling on the random map setting... just say it isn't random!@!! ugh...-Jésus noir

[owenshooter]

WWII Poland, Stalingrad, Magyarország... all suck fest maps, all popped up on random... ha!!!-Jésus noir

[Serbia]

Cricket -- greal little map, especially in Poly, lot of strategic depth
Crossword -- kind of ugly, but interesting strategically
Age of Realms 2 -- not my favourite map, but it is the 6th most popular map on the site
Clandemonium -- positively beautiful
Labyryrinth -- fascinating map, interesting options, certainly interesting graphics. Again not my favourite, but objectively speaking a good map.
WW I Ottoman (why is it some people don't know the difference between WW I and WW II?) -- old-fashioned straight geographical map, nothing special but definitely not bad.
Lunar War -- one of the best maps on the site.
So you got a few crappy ones in there -- Hive and Circus Max and All Your Base. You also got some really top-notch maps like Lunar War and Clandemonium and some in between like Ottoman and Crossword. Seems like a reasonably balanced menu to me.

You're hilarious. A schill for the site, definitely, but also hilarious in your own way. Lunar War, "one of the best maps on the site"?! LOL! You should take your act on the road, maybe you could trick people into paying to see you!

Bollocks.

[waauw]

WWII Poland, Stalingrad, Magyarország... all suck fest maps, all popped up on random... ha!!!-Jésus noir

WWII Poland and Stalingrad are brilliant maps. It's not because you don't like the maps that they shouldn't pop up in random.
It's not because you've been calling yourself Jésus noir that people will consider your word divine.

[Donelladan]

@Serbia and owen.

Nice of you saying that Duka is hilarious. You both are definitely not. You are just boring and annoying.

What you are thinking about those maps is only your personal opinions. Duka is actually right, there is many players on CC that like the maps you mentioned.
No one gives a shit about the fact that you don't like Labyrinth owen.
Maybe the map sucks, then give some arguments, but saying it sucks isn't one. Some people like this map, it is definitely not a difficult one, calling it a specialist map is just making obvious the limitation of your brain. Most of the rules of this map are pretty simple, once you read the legend you know what you want to take and what you don't want to. Any experienced CC players should be able to understand this map at once this there is nothing new in this map compared to others.

[owenshooter]

flame, flame, flame...

thanks for furthering the discourse with your flames... you really should learn the nuances of language or people may find you doltish for what may be considered ignorant ramblings... see how i did that? those aren't flames, you need to learn how to do that... and now, back to the suck-fest maps that have begun to populate RANDOM... they suck... maps should not depend on SETTINGS to be playable or enjoyable... Lunar/Kings Court/Stalingrad/WWII Poland are all maps that require cards of some sort to keep it from getting bogged down... Big neutral 17's are not what i want to see when i play no spoils... think outside of your simpleton settings, and you will understand... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-join some of my random games or pipe down...

[Butters1919]

thanks for furthering the discourse with your flames... you really should learn the nuances of language or people may find you doltish for what may be considered ignorant ramblings... see how i did that? those aren't flames, you need to learn how to do that... and now, back to the suck-fest maps that have begun to populate RANDOM... they suck... maps should not depend on SETTINGS to be playable or enjoyable... Lunar/Kings Court/Stalingrad/WWII Poland are all maps that require cards of some sort to keep it from getting bogged down... Big neutral 17's are not what i want to see when i play no spoils... think outside of your simpleton settings, and you will understand... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-join some of my random games or pipe down...

Isn't this a thread discussing the possibility that "random maps" may not, in fact, appear at random frequencies? Why are we discussing the nature of the maps that appear? That's irrelevant to the debate, no?

[owenshooter]

Isn't this a thread discussing the possibility that "random maps" may not, in fact, appear at random frequencies? Why are we discussing the nature of the maps that appear? That's irrelevant to the debate, no?

you just may possibly truly be daft if you don't understand what is being debated here.. the discussion is that the maps are not random, the maps that pop up are maps that are not popular and that generally SUCK. that is why the nature of the maps matters. when all the maps that pop up SUCK and are the least popular maps on the site, RANDOM is not RANDOM... you really don't even understand the discussion going on here... it is kind of cute... you should let the adults have a discussion here and go back to the kid table...-Jn

p.s.-wow... you really seem to be clueless...

[waauw]

*cry* *cry* *cry*

Stop belittling others when you yourself are one of the most despisable people on here.
All you know is flaming and whining.