Lindax wrote:is it the newest trend to simply deadbeat when you're losing in a speed game?
Whether it is or not, it's bloody annoying!
Lx
That is the topic discussion. Why people are deadbeating in a speed game they are losing.
Regardless of your opinions about forfeit buttons, it is just a fact that a big part of the answer to the topic question lies in the absence of a resignation button.
When people are losing games in big maps or trench games, they find it much simpler to "resign". A resignation button is not offered, which does not matter to them, they resign by not playing. That is what I do in those settings and that is what 90% of my opponents do as well. Many tend to disregard the obvious contradiction here.
1. Deadbeating is forbidden
2. People cannot resign games, so they resign by deadbeating. Nobody reports them. Some people even thank them for their kindness to finish the game faster by deadbeating
3. Points 1 and 2 make a contradiction
That is the truth. We are hiding. We are pretending not to see what is going on in speed games. Those are facts. Whether we can reach the conclusion that a resignation button is needed is a different story, although the positive answer is obvious to me, but the rest are just simple facts.
I am a chess, risk and various other strategy games player. When I am losing a game beyond the point of no return, I resign. And that is what most people do. Resignation can mean clicking the resignation button, it can mean drop and end turn, it can mean deadbeating. For some reason, we are afraid that option 1 facilates cheating (and still NO ONE can explain why, which is natural...because it does not) The first option of resigning is not allowed in CC, so I am using the other two. If a speed game can be finished in 2-3 turns, I just drop. If not, I deadbeat. I confess. I have broken the rule of deadbeating thousands (not an exaggeration) of times. I have intentionally deadbeated thousand of rounds. Nobody ever reported me and nobody probably ever will, except for some "clever" guy who will read this "confession". But that would be a positive thing for the site, I wonder what would happen if such a report was filled. And if it is filled, my answer is simple. When I lose a strategy game that needs much time to be finished off, I resign. I do not care if you allow me the option of clicking a resigning button, I will resign anyway. By not playing. You cannot convince me that the "proper thing" to do is keep playing for 10 rounds a lost strategy board game and I will just laugh if you try to do so.
You cannot persuade me that "real life risk" does not have a resignation button, like people tend to say. It does. You do not throw all dices to the end. In fact it is in the board game that you resign mostly. When a couple of regions are left, you obviously do not throw the dice against your friend, you just retract the troops to the box. If you claim you do not, but instead keep dropping dice when opponent has 1 region and you have all the board, you are lying. At least in CC, it is just clicking 2 buttons to end the game. And certainly, if a hive map was offered in board risk and you would play trench, there is not a single pair of humanoids in the world that would clean up the map by throwing dice. Unless they are in jail for life perhaps.
Strategy games are just like that. They are not soccer that people are paying tickets to watch. When it is over, it is over. And no, "chess has the resignation option in its rules", is not an answer. If it claims that the ancient Indians who invented the game and decided that the rook moves straight, also decided that a player can resign, then you are wrong. The resignation option is not an "inside" rule of the game and it does not change the way a game is played. It is just the obvious thing to add to the official rules of the game federation. Because it is obvious. And all have done so. Except here.
The reality is that we have a non fuctional set of rules about forbidding dbing and not allowing resignation. They simply do not mix. You can yell to people that are deadbeating, but they will not stop, because that is the natural thing to do. We yell to them but we do not report them because...I do not why, perhaps because we cannot prove it. We cannot prove a thing that is happening in most of speed games (qualified by long cleaning up duration) hundreds of times per day, so we pretend it is not happening and we do not include a resignation button. I know the resignation option will not prevail for years to come. There is a strong tendency against it, completely unjustified. The site is hurting from its absence and people are wasting time because of it.
