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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby Zivel on Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:51 am

I am finding this game a little hard to get into. I have some real life stuff happening and the deal with PCM and Jak is really distracting.

So we think one of them is lying? I am starting to look at Mtam, some of his stuff day two has been worrying and that gambit at the end of day one threw my town read off.

I think between the two I think Jak is the obvious choice. The only problem is that we all know he is the obvious choice and so does PCM and this could be a ruse by him to get an easy way out. Please Charm can you check the one that is not lynched here. But Jaks first case on PCM was so far wrong and such a weird story, even for Jak that I have to question his play.

Can we get a vote count please
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby virus90 on Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:52 am

Zivel wrote: Please Charm can you check the one that is not lynched here. But Jaks first case on PCM was so far wrong and such a weird story, even for Jak that I have to question his play.

Can we get a vote count please

no need to check if 1 flips mafia i think ? thats still a possibility
i am on the pcm side so vote jak side at the moment .especially because of this:

spiesr wrote:
jak111 wrote:I wonder if Spiesr in fact roleblocked you last night and the effect carried over to today.
I did not do that.


kind of asking spiesr to verify his claim, or the shortcomings of it.

and people say 1 of them is scum for sure? i still dont really get that, could be possible both town right? (not that i think that)
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby jak111 on Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:58 am

spiesr wrote:
jak111 wrote:I wonder if Spiesr in fact roleblocked you last night and the effect carried over to today.
I did not do that.


Alright, as I suspected then. Just tried to think up of ways PCM could be telling the truth.
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby jak111 on Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:33 am

Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would... :oops: :oops: :oops:

Unvote, Vote Mtam
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby edocsil on Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:04 am

VC

Tailgunner (1) ~ charm
Neb (1) ~ Spiesr
Jak (3) ~ Mtam PCM Tailgunner
Neb (1) ~ hotshot
Mtam (2) ~ Jak, neb

11 alive 6 to lynch.
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby spiesr on Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:11 am

jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would... :oops: :oops: :oops:

Unvote, Vote Mtam
You know, for a little while there I was seriously starting to consider that pancakemix had actually lied for some reason (lyncher, trying to take out an overpowered town) but this shoots that out of the water. Now I am thinking that you deliberately misinformed us and are now trying to back out of it since it wasn't working. Vote Jak.
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:07 pm

jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would... :oops: :oops: :oops:

Unvote, Vote Mtam


And how do you do that?
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby jak111 on Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:42 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would... :oops: :oops: :oops:

Unvote, Vote Mtam


And how do you do that?


Bu missing three letter spaces from would and wouldn't <-- easy to miss when you're reading it fast.
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:21 pm

Once again, we are stalling a little bit.

jak and Pancake have hogged the spotlight today.

Mtam was powering through and has now gone quiet.

Zivel, virus and Hotshot are playing it close to the vest.

Iron and charm are cleared. Spiesr is slighly clear.

Tailgunner has gone back into sleep mode.

Let's just figure out what direction we want to take and go with it, shall we? I like Storr's game where everyone is forced to vote...maybe we just mob enforce it here. Anyone not voting will be vigged by Pancake at night...
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby charm on Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:28 pm

I like your thoughts Neb!

I think Jak is at L2. So, let;s take him to L1 and get this game moving!

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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby virus90 on Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:52 am

i would vote jak, but since the last post probably put him at L1 should i vote already or do we want to longer talk about it?
i am done with this day and ok with a lynch at this point.

sidenote: i am gone from today till sunday so might not be able to post, will see about internet there.
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby Zivel on Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:36 am

jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would... :oops: :oops: :oops:

Unvote, Vote Mtam


This post makes me think town, maybe this is town Jak but then....

jak111 wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would... :oops: :oops: :oops:

Unvote, Vote Mtam


And how do you do that?


Bu missing three letter spaces from would and wouldn't <-- easy to miss when you're reading it fast.


This was not was I what wanting from that question. This is scum posting here, you were given a way out by IB here, someway for you to come clean and explain all the BS from the day and give us something to move on with but this crap is all you have given us.

We are on L1 here ya? I will hammer in the morning (NZ time) if there is nothing more to drag out of this day.
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby Zivel on Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:42 am

Unless you want the honors Virus... I think the painting is on the wall here.
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby Iron Butterfly on Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:25 am

Zivel wrote:
jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would... :oops: :oops: :oops:

Unvote, Vote Mtam


This post makes me think town, maybe this is town Jak but then....

jak111 wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would... :oops: :oops: :oops:

Unvote, Vote Mtam


And how do you do that?


Bu missing three letter spaces from would and wouldn't <-- easy to miss when you're reading it fast.


This was not was I what wanting from that question. This is scum posting here, you were given a way out by IB here, someway for you to come clean and explain all the BS from the day and give us something to move on with but this crap is all you have given us.

We are on L1 here ya? I will hammer in the morning (NZ time) if there is nothing more to drag out of this day.


How would you come clean Zivel and what were you wanting from my question that was not already stated? His first post on the matter you say he comes across Town. I ask my question, he answers it and now he did not answer to your satisfaction.

What answer would have been good for you?
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby jak111 on Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:13 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:How would you come clean Zivel and what were you wanting from my question that was not already stated? His first post on the matter you say he comes across Town. I ask my question, he answers it and now he did not answer to your satisfaction.

What answer would have been good for you?


This is what I am wondering. We'll find out if we have a doc or not if the cop is dead tomorrow once I die today. Just remember, there's SCUM on my wagon and I stand between them and the cop. Taking me out in the day makes less risk of them dying/failing a kill at night.

Also, Zivel, ask yourself this. Why the hell would I clear PCM if I was trying to have him lynched? (that goes for the guy that found it scummy and everyone else on my wagon). I am persistent if nothing else when I am scum. So why would I do that?
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:50 am

jak111 wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:How would you come clean Zivel and what were you wanting from my question that was not already stated? His first post on the matter you say he comes across Town. I ask my question, he answers it and now he did not answer to your satisfaction.

What answer would have been good for you?


This is what I am wondering. We'll find out if we have a doc or not if the cop is dead tomorrow once I die today. Just remember, there's SCUM on my wagon and I stand between them and the cop. Taking me out in the day makes less risk of them dying/failing a kill at night.

Also, Zivel, ask yourself this. Why the hell would I clear PCM if I was trying to have him lynched? (that goes for the guy that found it scummy and everyone else on my wagon). I am persistent if nothing else when I am scum. So why would I do that?

Oh, jak...your posts just don't ever do you any favors.
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby pancakemix on Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:51 am

jak111 wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:How would you come clean Zivel and what were you wanting from my question that was not already stated? His first post on the matter you say he comes across Town. I ask my question, he answers it and now he did not answer to your satisfaction.

What answer would have been good for you?


This is what I am wondering. We'll find out if we have a doc or not if the cop is dead tomorrow once I die today. Just remember, there's SCUM on my wagon and I stand between them and the cop. Taking me out in the day makes less risk of them dying/failing a kill at night.

Also, Zivel, ask yourself this. Why the hell would I clear PCM if I was trying to have him lynched? (that goes for the guy that found it scummy and everyone else on my wagon). I am persistent if nothing else when I am scum. So why would I do that?


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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby jak111 on Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:50 pm

pancakemix wrote:WIFOM, Distilled.
98% pure.


I swear. If you're scum and I die because I told the truth to not cast doubt on you when I flip town.. I bloody swear... I'm gonna hit my head against the wall.. :lol: :x
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby Zivel on Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:23 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
How would you come clean Zivel and what were you wanting from my question that was not already stated? His first post on the matter you say he comes across Town. I ask my question, he answers it and now he did not answer to your satisfaction.

What answer would have been good for you?


I see you question as 'how do you clear PCM's name?' and in no way has he done this. I dont think he actually wants to, I think this is a BS ruse in a last ditch effort save himself. His attempt to get PCM lynched failed, backfired on him, and now he is backpedaling, trying to maybe save himself. It is a weak post with no real information.

What did I want: He needed to explain more about the PCM vote initially, felt to me like it came out of nowhere and was a BS case. He needed to put out more information out about the rest of the players in the game. He needed to at least give us something from today that we can work with when he flips. He has not done this, his information is limited and he is holding back, this reads to me like scum who see the writing on the wall and dont want to give away any more information.

jak111 wrote:
Also, Zivel, ask yourself this. Why the hell would I clear PCM if I was trying to have him lynched? (that goes for the guy that found it scummy and everyone else on my wagon). I am persistent if nothing else when I am scum. So why would I do that?


You have not cleared PCM, you have said 'opps I made a mistake, sorry guys' but you have not given any information as to why PCM is cleared. You are trying to save yourself from a lynch at the last moment, or maybe throw doubt on a townie as you go down, but you have not given town any help here. You spent day 2 arguing about something that ended up being based on a weak case and actually had complete holes in it. Once people realised this you tried to save yourself, miserably.

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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby jak111 on Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:50 pm

Zivel wrote:What did I want: He needed to explain more about the PCM vote initially, felt to me like it came out of nowhere and was a BS case. He needed to put out more information out about the rest of the players in the game. He needed to at least give us something from today that we can work with when he flips. He has not done this, his information is limited and he is holding back, this reads to me like scum who see the writing on the wall and dont want to give away any more information.


Well I do have some time before the lynch scene is posted, but I love your post. You act as though I tried this and that and that you are lynching "scum".

Initial vote he would not play a simple game for me to scum hunt. I had a method and no one even batted an eye to his over refusal to play along.

Town read Tails, Scum read Mtam, list of 6 people I think 3-4 scum are in.. What did you do today again?

List of 6 (you're on it, imagine that!), scum definitely on wagon, potential that there's no doc and Charm is screwed making no cop reports tomorrow. Again, what have you done?

Remember the 6. 3-4 are scum. IB, you're the only clear going into tomorrow if there's no doctor for Charm. So make sure to lead it. Do not let any of them push you around. If anyone tries to take command over your lead tomorrow, make sure town is on them within the following days.
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby jak111 on Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:58 pm

jak111 wrote:Again, what have you done?[/b]


Wait, let me answer that for you. Killed a 3-shot BP Bodyguard that the mafia couldn't get through for at least 2 more nights to harm cop. I do admit the chance to kill shooter was made up (deterrent and fear factor for mafia making random shots in the night). That idea came from Epic Mafia to make shooting me or the one I protect something that sounds dangerous to attempt. ;)
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:03 pm

jak111 wrote:
jak111 wrote:Again, what have you done?[/b]


Wait, let me answer that for you. Killed a 3-shot BP Bodyguard that the mafia couldn't get through for at least 2 more nights to harm cop. I do admit the chance to kill shooter was made up (deterrent and fear factor for mafia making random shots in the night). That idea came from Epic Mafia to make shooting me or the one I protect something that sounds dangerous to attempt. ;)

You do realize that the "chance to kill shooter" is what most likely hung you, right? LAL. How many times did people say your role was OP? And if you ARE town, stupid effing play to lie about your role, especially when you claimed with no need to claim yet.
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby Zivel on Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:13 pm

jak111 wrote:Well I do have some time before the lynch scene is posted, but I love your post. You act as though I tried this and that and that you are lynching "scum".

Initial vote he would not play a simple game for me to scum hunt. I had a method and no one even batted an eye to his over refusal to play along.

Town read Tails, Scum read Mtam, list of 6 people I think 3-4 scum are in.. What did you do today again?

List of 6 (you're on it, imagine that!), scum definitely on wagon, potential that there's no doc and Charm is screwed making no cop reports tomorrow. Again, what have you done?

Remember the 6. 3-4 are scum. IB, you're the only clear going into tomorrow if there's no doctor for Charm. So make sure to lead it. Do not let any of them push you around. If anyone tries to take command over your lead tomorrow, make sure town is on them within the following days.


Why Mtam scum? Why tails town? What is your read on PCM after all this?

I think you are scum, that is why I hammered but if you are town give me something to think about after your flip.
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby jak111 on Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:23 pm

I was at L3 with people already leaning to vote me. So I added an extra detail to my role. I did consider telling the truth about that towards the end, but then it'd be 100% hung for that after making the mistake about would/wouldn't know if hit. I planned to show that card once we nailed one scum and cop had more than one report.

Hopefully a watcher is on Charm tonight.. That's all I can say.

Also, I am going to call this for ENDGAME of who I think scum is at this moment that I am alive.

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(Not saying all four of you are scum, just the ones I believe are scum at this point in the game if I had to place my bets here and now)

FP'd by Zivel. I don't believe that is why you hammered. Sorry if I'm wrong but in my head there's a 2/3 chance I am not.

Mtam read: Because of META. You get after me for "poor play" yet wanting to OMGUS lynch people who vote you(Mtam) is not poor play Zivel?
Tails read: Because I scum read Mtam and I don't think he'd have gone after Tails like he did Day 1 if they were partners.
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Re: Cyborgs Mafia - 11/12 D2 - A Death!

Postby Zivel on Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:54 pm

Expand on your PCM read please.
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