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no need to check if 1 flips mafia i think ? thats still a possibilityZivel wrote: Please Charm can you check the one that is not lynched here. But Jaks first case on PCM was so far wrong and such a weird story, even for Jak that I have to question his play.
Can we get a vote count please
kind of asking spiesr to verify his claim, or the shortcomings of it.spiesr wrote:I did not do that.jak111 wrote:I wonder if Spiesr in fact roleblocked you last night and the effect carried over to today.
Alright, as I suspected then. Just tried to think up of ways PCM could be telling the truth.spiesr wrote:I did not do that.jak111 wrote:I wonder if Spiesr in fact roleblocked you last night and the effect carried over to today.
Commander9 wrote:Trust Edoc, as I know he's VERY good.
zimmah wrote:Mind like a brick.
You know, for a little while there I was seriously starting to consider that pancakemix had actually lied for some reason (lyncher, trying to take out an overpowered town) but this shoots that out of the water. Now I am thinking that you deliberately misinformed us and are now trying to back out of it since it wasn't working. Vote Jak.jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would...![]()
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And how do you do that?jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would...![]()
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Bu missing three letter spaces from would and wouldn't <-- easy to miss when you're reading it fast.Iron Butterfly wrote:And how do you do that?jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would...![]()
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This post makes me think town, maybe this is town Jak but then....jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would...![]()
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This was not was I what wanting from that question. This is scum posting here, you were given a way out by IB here, someway for you to come clean and explain all the BS from the day and give us something to move on with but this crap is all you have given us.jak111 wrote:Bu missing three letter spaces from would and wouldn't <-- easy to miss when you're reading it fast.Iron Butterfly wrote:And how do you do that?jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would...![]()
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How would you come clean Zivel and what were you wanting from my question that was not already stated? His first post on the matter you say he comes across Town. I ask my question, he answers it and now he did not answer to your satisfaction.Zivel wrote:This post makes me think town, maybe this is town Jak but then....jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would...![]()
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This was not was I what wanting from that question. This is scum posting here, you were given a way out by IB here, someway for you to come clean and explain all the BS from the day and give us something to move on with but this crap is all you have given us.jak111 wrote:Bu missing three letter spaces from would and wouldn't <-- easy to miss when you're reading it fast.Iron Butterfly wrote:And how do you do that?jak111 wrote:Alright, I need to clear PCM's name. I fucked up. I would NOT know if I've been shot. I read it as I would...![]()
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We are on L1 here ya? I will hammer in the morning (NZ time) if there is nothing more to drag out of this day.

This is what I am wondering. We'll find out if we have a doc or not if the cop is dead tomorrow once I die today. Just remember, there's SCUM on my wagon and I stand between them and the cop. Taking me out in the day makes less risk of them dying/failing a kill at night.Iron Butterfly wrote:How would you come clean Zivel and what were you wanting from my question that was not already stated? His first post on the matter you say he comes across Town. I ask my question, he answers it and now he did not answer to your satisfaction.
What answer would have been good for you?
Oh, jak...your posts just don't ever do you any favors.jak111 wrote:This is what I am wondering. We'll find out if we have a doc or not if the cop is dead tomorrow once I die today. Just remember, there's SCUM on my wagon and I stand between them and the cop. Taking me out in the day makes less risk of them dying/failing a kill at night.Iron Butterfly wrote:How would you come clean Zivel and what were you wanting from my question that was not already stated? His first post on the matter you say he comes across Town. I ask my question, he answers it and now he did not answer to your satisfaction.
What answer would have been good for you?
Also, Zivel, ask yourself this. Why the hell would I clear PCM if I was trying to have him lynched? (that goes for the guy that found it scummy and everyone else on my wagon). I am persistent if nothing else when I am scum. So why would I do that?
WIFOM, Distilled.jak111 wrote:This is what I am wondering. We'll find out if we have a doc or not if the cop is dead tomorrow once I die today. Just remember, there's SCUM on my wagon and I stand between them and the cop. Taking me out in the day makes less risk of them dying/failing a kill at night.Iron Butterfly wrote:How would you come clean Zivel and what were you wanting from my question that was not already stated? His first post on the matter you say he comes across Town. I ask my question, he answers it and now he did not answer to your satisfaction.
What answer would have been good for you?
Also, Zivel, ask yourself this. Why the hell would I clear PCM if I was trying to have him lynched? (that goes for the guy that found it scummy and everyone else on my wagon). I am persistent if nothing else when I am scum. So why would I do that?
aage wrote:Never trust CYOC or pancake.
I swear. If you're scum and I die because I told the truth to not cast doubt on you when I flip town.. I bloody swear... I'm gonna hit my head against the wall..pancakemix wrote:WIFOM, Distilled.
98% pure.
I see you question as 'how do you clear PCM's name?' and in no way has he done this. I dont think he actually wants to, I think this is a BS ruse in a last ditch effort save himself. His attempt to get PCM lynched failed, backfired on him, and now he is backpedaling, trying to maybe save himself. It is a weak post with no real information.Iron Butterfly wrote:
How would you come clean Zivel and what were you wanting from my question that was not already stated? His first post on the matter you say he comes across Town. I ask my question, he answers it and now he did not answer to your satisfaction.
What answer would have been good for you?
You have not cleared PCM, you have said 'opps I made a mistake, sorry guys' but you have not given any information as to why PCM is cleared. You are trying to save yourself from a lynch at the last moment, or maybe throw doubt on a townie as you go down, but you have not given town any help here. You spent day 2 arguing about something that ended up being based on a weak case and actually had complete holes in it. Once people realised this you tried to save yourself, miserably.jak111 wrote:
Also, Zivel, ask yourself this. Why the hell would I clear PCM if I was trying to have him lynched? (that goes for the guy that found it scummy and everyone else on my wagon). I am persistent if nothing else when I am scum. So why would I do that?
Well I do have some time before the lynch scene is posted, but I love your post. You act as though I tried this and that and that you are lynching "scum".Zivel wrote:What did I want: He needed to explain more about the PCM vote initially, felt to me like it came out of nowhere and was a BS case. He needed to put out more information out about the rest of the players in the game. He needed to at least give us something from today that we can work with when he flips. He has not done this, his information is limited and he is holding back, this reads to me like scum who see the writing on the wall and dont want to give away any more information.
Wait, let me answer that for you. Killed a 3-shot BP Bodyguard that the mafia couldn't get through for at least 2 more nights to harm cop. I do admit the chance to kill shooter was made up (deterrent and fear factor for mafia making random shots in the night). That idea came from Epic Mafia to make shooting me or the one I protect something that sounds dangerous to attempt.jak111 wrote:Again, what have you done?[/b]
You do realize that the "chance to kill shooter" is what most likely hung you, right? LAL. How many times did people say your role was OP? And if you ARE town, stupid effing play to lie about your role, especially when you claimed with no need to claim yet.jak111 wrote:Wait, let me answer that for you. Killed a 3-shot BP Bodyguard that the mafia couldn't get through for at least 2 more nights to harm cop. I do admit the chance to kill shooter was made up (deterrent and fear factor for mafia making random shots in the night). That idea came from Epic Mafia to make shooting me or the one I protect something that sounds dangerous to attempt.jak111 wrote:Again, what have you done?[/b]
Why Mtam scum? Why tails town? What is your read on PCM after all this?jak111 wrote: Well I do have some time before the lynch scene is posted, but I love your post. You act as though I tried this and that and that you are lynching "scum".
Initial vote he would not play a simple game for me to scum hunt. I had a method and no one even batted an eye to his over refusal to play along.
Town read Tails, Scum read Mtam, list of 6 people I think 3-4 scum are in.. What did you do today again?
List of 6 (you're on it, imagine that!), scum definitely on wagon, potential that there's no doc and Charm is screwed making no cop reports tomorrow. Again, what have you done?
Remember the 6. 3-4 are scum. IB, you're the only clear going into tomorrow if there's no doctor for Charm. So make sure to lead it. Do not let any of them push you around. If anyone tries to take command over your lead tomorrow, make sure town is on them within the following days.