Game of Thrones Mafia 9/24 Night 6: End Game Vote 4 MVP

by **legionnare** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:36 pm

So,

Legionnare and Robik are left in Braavos. Clear of anti by all accounts.

one of Jweidlin/Epitaph/Betiko is Anti-town

one of Neb/SiriusCowKing is Anti-town

Boone and Bunnies in King's Landing Cleared of anti by all accouts

So by my reckoning we still have 2 anti to find. Out of Betiko/Epitaph/Jweidlin/Neb/SCK.

It's now entering endgame so I'll come out with the name of the person I tracked N1+2, it was Jweidlin. Town read for him (yes the possibility exists that he scum but seeing as nothing happened or was claimed to happen to either crasp or pershy I'm going with town)

Betiko has pretty much secured himself Town cred.

Out of that city my guts say Epi is the Anti

Considering KGB's attempt to kill SCK (will it count it AoG killed him?) I'd clear SCK.

Neb posted a vote for me without any explanation and between him and SCK my vote goes with Neb.

@Robik no I didn't track you I tracked someone else who went no-where so can be cleared of the Killings or any other action last night.

by **27ninjabunnies** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:06 pm

Okay, NEB IS TOWN.

HE IS JAMIE LANNISTER!

I AM CERSEI!

WE ARE LOVERS.

IF YOU KILL HIM, I DIE.

WE ARE NOT GETTING RID OF TWO TOWN.

SO STOP CALLING NEB MAFIA.

Thank you.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:12 pm

Sorry...Didn't mean Legion...meant to vote Jweidlin...got that mixed up. Thinking that Sirius was going to be daykilled by KGB, I was going with Jweid, who was on pancake's wagon, and a few others...sure he pulled off pancake, but probably just for cover. Now that KGB daykill didn't go through, I'm left to wonder. Perhaps KGB knew he was dead and faked his "daykill" to throw us off?

Either way, I know I'm not scum, and Bunnies knows I'm not scum...and Sirius knows he is scum. Don't ask me for the intracacies of how mafia planned this out...

Last night I used my .5 KP on Sirius. He is the one to go in Storm's End.

by **IAmRobik** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:06 pm

Oh hey, so we can clear SCK (most likely) cause I was RB'd last night

I was waiting for legion to claim to see if he was really town, cause if he tracked me, i assume it would say i didn't go anywhere.

For the record, I tried to shoot Neb last night.

by **IAmRobik** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:07 pm

I also tried to redirect actions from boone onto neb because I thought that scum might try to target her.

by **jwiedlin** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:14 pm

bunnies, I think you need to consider the possibility that your lover is mafia (the intrigue!)

I'm not going to discount the possibility that PCM's results were tampered with (mafia framer ability? PCM thought it was possible), but the simplest explanation is that they are accurate.

## vote Nebuchadnezer

by **SiriusCowKing** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:49 pm

So I guess you will have no problem confirming that I did roleblock you Robik? Sorry about the roleblock, I wasn't sure about you so I decided to try. I figured, if you were town you would confirm, and if you didn't confirm that I roleblocked you, that would mean you were mafia and trying to incriminate me.

##vote neb. Too bad I am the only one left in my town. Well played neb, you almost took everyone from your town out before getting killed.

by **jwiedlin** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:07 pm

To clarify, Neb's status as scum is far from "case closed" for me.

The weirdest thing about the situation is that bunnies is confirming Neb's role as Jaime Lannister, which should have returned a town result from PCM's check.

I'm sticking with my vote on Neb because I believe that the possibility is greater that bunnies was misled, or bunnies is misleading us rather than PCM's results being incorrect.

@Robik, how does SCK roleblocking you confirm him as town? He could be a mafia roleblocker just as easily.

by **IAmRobik** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:28 pm

@jwied maybe. but we already killed a mafia rb. We have A LOT of confirmed townies now. We can always lynch him if there are too many cleared people

by **IAmRobik** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:30 pm

I don't want to OGI too much, but if we believe pcm's claim, then we should kinda believe neb that he's Jaime. The reason I'm saying it's OGI is that Storr first gave the check as green and then changed it and said it's red.

On the other hand, it seems like it would be balanced if there was a .5 town vig and a .5maf vig. It could also be 2 town .5 vig. IDK

by **27ninjabunnies** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:54 pm

Her is why Neb isn't mafia- and this is not based on the fact that I know his alignment, and that I will die if he dies.

PCM gets checks. PCM, as stated in his role, gets green back on ALL Lannisters.

Here are his checks Neb-> Red (Claims a lannister)
Pretender (Green. Dies and is confirmed town)
KGD->Red (I forgot who he claimed)

Now if you read pretender's role, you would see that if a cop checks him, the pretender will show up as red.
So why did he show up as green for PCM?

The only conclusion-> PCM was insane cop.

Hence therefore, flip the checks on both Neb and KGB, and bam confirmed town. Unless KGB is a godfather.

But like I said, I am Cersei. I win WITH the town. Why would lover roles be opposite roles? It makes no sense.

Neb is town with me. So we lynch out of the other two, and that is that.

by **boonetown** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:25 pm

i checked neb last night and was not role blocked, and i was not redirected. neb is confirmed jaime.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:30 pm

Ya, I just don't get Pancake's results. Two false results, one true result. Mafia's messed with us big time...and it's really screwing us.

FPd by Boone.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:02 pm

Who did Legion follow last night that didn't go anywhere?

by **betiko** on Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:06 am

Sorry guys i m on a boat and 3g is shit, doing what i can to post but it s a nightmare...

Anyway, useless information; kgb visited aog last night

I am very curious as why would they kill aog that makes no sense.... With "2 town loversout there"

by **betiko** on Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:15 am

I don t know why they wouldn t kill the pair... And pcm got red for kgb and neb, green for pretender. Maybe we had to cut the crap and see everything as simple... No lannister crap, plain alignments?

I don t know though, there is something not right with sck though..

Regarding our town: either X is town (still not getting his braavos result), then our claimed third party should be killed last as he is usefull (if his claim is true)
If X isn t town then all his alignment results are bs and we re in trouble...

by **betiko** on Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:17 am

Unfortunately X checked KL and got 0/2, braavos is the one that really intrigues me with the 1/5 when they were 6.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:12 am

betiko wrote:Unfortunately X checked KL and got 0/2, braavos is the one that really intrigues me with the 1/5 when they were 6.

King's Landing? Aw, come on...we've been sure of that city for days now.

I can tell you why they won't kill me or bunnies...cuz you guys will do it for them. I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibilities that Sirius is some sort of mafia JOAT. That's why he couldn't perform a block on N4, and instead made the block on N5...he only has one. Also, why he blocked Robik, who we now are 99% sure is town. Did we ever get Sirius's character claim? Have to check that out...

by **SiriusCowKing** on Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:33 am

Like I said, I wasn't sure about Robik, and strike wolf asked me in page 53, so I roleblocked him. For the lover story, it doesn't have to be 2 town or 2 mafia lovers. cercei (can't remember who got cercei as character) may be town or not, you are for sure mafia. In the end we need to eliminate all the mafias so sorry cercei but my vote will not change.

by **Epitaph1** on Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:37 am

I am very confused about PCM's results. But going off PCM's role description and both boone and bunnies confirming that Neb is Jaime (who were both twice confirmed by Mr. X as town themselves), it just doesn't add up that Neb is the remaining scum in Storm's End. We were set to lynch SCK a couple days ago based on his play until his claim, but now he roleblocks the Throne who we are pretty sure is town--although I suppose that was still up in the air going into last night given that kgb hadn't flipped yet.

Regardless, going off the numbers I think we're still in good shape:

We have 8 remaining players who can vote.

Location breakdown:

Storm's End - 2 remaining, 1 is anti-town (scum)
King's Landing - 2 remaining, 0 anti-town as confirmed by Mr. X twice
The Dreadfort - 2 remaining , 1 3p as claimed in the QT
Braavos - 2 remaining, 0 anti-town according to result by Mr. X (although result seemed slightly off)

I think today we have to decide btw Neb and SCK. Those are the best odds of hitting scum and tbh I think it might end the game.

My main concern is that if we lynch Neb and both he and bunnies are town, that takes us down to 6 remaining votes and at least 1 NK. That leaves us with 5 voters. If SCK is the last scum, then it's not a problem. But if Mr. X comes back and says there is actually one more in Braavos, then we have a 3 to 2 situation.

fp'd

bunnies is cersei

by **IAmRobik** on Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:15 am

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Sorry...Didn't mean Legion...meant to vote Jweidlin...got that mixed up. Thinking that Sirius was going to be daykilled by KGB, I was going with Jweid, who was on pancake's wagon, and a few others...sure he pulled off pancake, but probably just for cover. Now that KGB daykill didn't go through, I'm left to wonder. Perhaps KGB knew he was dead and faked his "daykill" to throw us off?

Either way, I know I'm not scum, and Bunnies knows I'm not scum...and Sirius knows he is scum. Don't ask me for the intracacies of how mafia planned this out...

Last night I used my .5 KP on Sirius. He is the one to go in Storm's End.

So mafia!KGB tried to shoot mafia!sck? For what? Town cred? Let's be real.

The only way SCK is mafia is if KGB didn't have a shot, in which case that was a sick bluff which would have gotten him killed anyway when SCK didn't die, had AOG not taken his scum ass out. And then we would have all been suspicious of SCK anyway.

by **jwiedlin** on Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:43 am

Question for Storr:

Was KGB's kill action on SCK cancelled because of AOG's kill action on KGB?

I had assumed KGB's action was interrupted by his death, but if SCK was immune to daykills (and KGB knew this), we can speculate further from this action.

by **legionnare** on Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:43 am

the Braavos result: could Zivel being immune to investigation be the reason?

by **legionnare** on Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:51 am

Also as for the lover mechanic I always thought that each partner saw the other as town regardless as alignment?

by **IAmRobik** on Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:25 pm

Bunnies, I think it's time you out your role besides "lover."

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