A rather disgraceful thing...

[nàme]

Is it against the rules? Well, I rememember another player getting into all sorts of trouble for inviting a great selection of ranks to his games (which i think were 1vs.1). In this case, the very lowest of ranks are being invited to a quads freestyle (etc) game, which is surely worse and in my view an abuse of the game.

I remember a case a while ago because I was part of it. In that case, a guy was inviting all sorts of people to a 1v1 on a map (in beta), then winning on the first round because of how the board was designed with the easy win conditions. To my knowledge, the abuser received no discipline, but the map was changed thoroughly. Is this abuse? No. Maybe the privates will learn from the struggle.

I don't know what kind of rewards or whatever the monthly challenges are, but unless they constantly fill games with the same people, it is not abuse.

[Gustaf Wasa]

Game 13343368

4 randoms of the lowest level invited to play incredibly complicated settings by players who really should know better.

medals or no medals i do not think that the invite system was meant for the uses to which it is being put here. This is new for alstergren as he normally just joins low ranking games.

You guys really need to get some other hobbies. This kind of sniping is what happens when people think their online hobby is Serious Business.

You know full well that no one is forced to join any game. Any low-ranking player who joins a game against a high-ranking player knows he is less likely to win, but when he joins anyway it is because he knows a loss would mean few points lost, while a win would mean a jackpot. That's the whole point of having the Elo rating system: so that low-ranking players will want to play with high-ranking players. And they do. Though some don't. That's their choice. Not yours. Some also think it is interesting to play against higher-ranked players simply to see how they play, which is probably a smart move. You have gripes with the choices of other players, to the degree that you have to make a thread to voice your important opinion? Okay, duly noted.

Now go for a walk, get some fresh air. Get some distance to the game.

[Gustaf Wasa]

About time someone brought up this despicable practice of inviting people to games when they are of a differing rank to you !
I find it nothing but distasteful when a cook, private,captain,colonel,brigadier, or general etc... invites me to a game. I mean really !
who the f*ck do they think they are, wanting to play someone of another rank ? This practice should be stopped and abolished forthwith within the site, it might possibly lead to fun !

Okay, that made me laugh.

Like the Thai demonstrators, let's demand a dictator! A council of the wise, to make the rubes' decisions for them. I also demand an end to all commercials, because they made me buy a brand of toothpaste that I don't want after all. Someone should decide what kind of toothpaste we buy so this never happens again. Maybe Changsha?

[Mr Changsha]

So the kangaroo court of pompous gits, and anally retentive tut tutters has met. Everyone is sure it is bad taste, and they would never suggest that people of a lower rank get a chance at taking their points. No rules have been broken, a lot of mud has been thrown. <yawns>

Bogan notes that those that care so much about what people think in public, are often jealous or resent those that don't care what people think. So we have a lot of bored people who rather than play the game, play politics having a massive circle jerk about how someone has "infringed" on the unwritten "norms" of acceptable behaviour(whilst still playing within the rules). Any of you have the balls to challenge alster to games? Didn't think so. Did all of the invited players join the game? No, surprising since some of the moralising nimbies* seem to think if a higher ranked person invites someone lower ranked to a game it is putting a gun to their head.

So josko.ri invited me to a poly quads game, with settings I'm not that good at(am I good at any settings is a question not to be asked)........ Should I be starting a thread in general, flaming/naming/shaming him for inviting someone lower ranked to games? I chose to join the game, but REMEMBER please most vocal nimbies, I had the option of declining the invite.

At least my idle curiosity has been satisfied in one respect. Wondering why keefie and coffeeboy don't get along. Turns out is because they are both so similar.


*NIMBY word of the day: August 06, 2008 in the urbandictionary.
1. Nimby - Not In My Back Yard; someone who opposes anything built right by where they live.
NIMBYs cause a lot of things to not get done.
2. Nimby - Used to describe a person or an attitude, NIMBY is an abbreviation for Not In My Back Yard. A NIMBY might agree that a community or a neigborhood needs a half-way house for convicts transitioning back to society, but doesn't want it placed too close to his or her own home or in the neighborhood. property values. too much traffic. ugly woobly boxes
Although the community council supported the zoning change, the NIMBYs argued strongly against the expansion of the trailer park

That is the american version. In Australia a nimby is a special type of faux liberal pest. A mouthy hypocrite who preaches and extoles the value/justice of any on trend social justice issue. Gay rights/marriage, refugee resettlement, the environment, urban sprawl, etc. Happy to talk gay rights, would not want gays married in their church or local park(there are a lot of older people in the neighbourhood we must be sensitive to their feelings). The worst of hypocrite as they actively obstruct that which they profess to support. City dwellers who declaim bush fire hazard reduction strategies as interfering with nature, then deplore the tragic waste of lives, and property(especially if affects their share portfolio) when the inevitable bushfire rips through the surplus fuel... Preach compassion, yet own shares in morally bankrupt insurance companies and are active in voting/retaining hard line responsibility deniers onto the company board.

Well that is all very well, but isn't the fundamental issue one of setting up a game (or games) that the opposition (in this carefully selected) have absolutely no chance of winning? Yes, they can and should refuse the invitation but the simple act of setting up such a game and then scouring through the weakest of CC's players, then inviting all four players to ensure an uncoordinated opposition (as if a large enough advantage hadn't already been gained through the settings choice) smacks of a low, dare I say even base, character.

You write of snobbish types not allowing the low-ranked a shot at their points. Well maybe that is true for many high-ranked players who prefer to play their own or around their own level. I am certainly one of those players and always have been. But there is a difference, a profound difference, between setting up a public game and then allowing a low rank to join and letting him theoretically organise a coherent team and what was done here: which was to set up a loaded game (quads freestyle fog etc) and purposefully use the invite system to set up a game that the opposition have a 0% yes 0% chance of winning.

That is indeed a rather disgraceful thing and the players involved deserve to have their names in lights.

[queen victorious]

i wish i felt as witty as some of you (i am really quite impressed at many of your skills with words). i just declined an invite from alster - oh no!!! - because it was on USA 2.1 BETA,
with fog, trench, and all other horrid settings which would make the game last 6 months.
frankly i didn't even look to see who else was invited. i just knew i hate that map. no problem...i assume. i always believed the acceptance of an invite was totally voluntary, i felt no "peer pressure"...actually no pressure at all...to accept the invite. if i was a cook (which of course i once was, i doubt i'd accept an invitation from anyone who intimidated me...like a sergeant...lol. but if i chose to accept, knowing i would lose, i might also believe it was a way to see the map played by people of ranks who must certainly know what they are doing. it seems to me that many of you make the assumption that low rank = stupidity. i know that it does not. let everyone choose to accept or decline as they see fit, any invitation they get. sometimes it's flattering just to get an invite from the "big boys"...for ANY reason. methinks thou (all) dost protest too much. xo

[iAmCaffeine]

Funny how the only people defending alster are his mates. I'll happily play against him; have done before and will do again. This is clearly pathetic but the precedent has already been set that farming for medals is acceptable.

By the way Bogan, Keefie and I get along fine. We have disagreements but nothing serious. Just a little hot headed.

[queen victorious]

Funny how the only people defending alster are his mates. I'll happily play against him; have done before and will do again. This is clearly pathetic but the precedent has already been set that farming for medals is acceptable.

By the way Bogan, Keefie and I get along fine. We have disagreements but nothing serious. Just a little hot headed.

just to clarify...this thread came to my attention BECAUSE alster was mentioned...i probably wouldn't have noticed it otherwise. everything i said would apply to anyone on CC. as someone said before...no one has a gun to his/her head to accept an invite. peace, guys! xo

[Mr Changsha]

i wish i felt as witty as some of you (i am really quite impressed at many of your skills with words). i just declined an invite from alster - oh no!!! - because it was on USA 2.1 BETA,
with fog, trench, and all other horrid settings which would make the game last 6 months.
frankly i didn't even look to see who else was invited. i just knew i hate that map. no problem...i assume. i always believed the acceptance of an invite was totally voluntary, i felt no "peer pressure"...actually no pressure at all...to accept the invite. if i was a cook (which of course i once was, i doubt i'd accept an invitation from anyone who intimidated me...like a sergeant...lol. but if i chose to accept, knowing i would lose, i might also believe it was a way to see the map played by people of ranks who must certainly know what they are doing. it seems to me that many of you make the assumption that low rank = stupidity. i know that it does not. let everyone choose to accept or decline as they see fit, any invitation they get. sometimes it's flattering just to get an invite from the "big boys"...for ANY reason. methinks thou (all) dost protest too much. xo

My main issue with it is that rather than inviting one player to a quads and thus assuming that player will set up their own team, instead deliberately selecting all four players of the opposition..which can really only have been done on the expectation that the resulting team would be absolutely and totally incompetent.

This isn't about saying low ranks such as cooks are thick, it is about saying that the only the most inexperienced of players would consent to have their team chosen for them by their opposition. Those players were selected on the basis that they might be naive enough to go along with it. I consider it an abuse of the invite system and more generally an abuse of the game.

It is pleasing that those low ranks rejected the invitation and good for them. But what I am interested in here is the intention of the farmers in question.

[BoganGod]

Funny how the only people defending alster are his mates. I'll happily play against him; have done before and will do again. This is clearly pathetic but the precedent has already been set that farming for medals is acceptable.

By the way Bogan, Keefie and I get along fine. We have disagreements but nothing serious. Just a little hot headed.(I'll translate - I'll kiss keefie's bottom because he is a mod now. I don't like people thinking that I'm less than cool as a cucumber, so I'll deny all emotions. I'll lie rather than let people think that I might have personal motivations for being sanctimonious.

Right you are decaf, in your world people don't stick up for their friends, instead they protect the rights and privileges of their enemies....

Bollocks

[iAmCaffeine]

Funny how the only people defending alster are his mates. I'll happily play against him; have done before and will do again. This is clearly pathetic but the precedent has already been set that farming for medals is acceptable.

By the way Bogan, Keefie and I get along fine. We have disagreements but nothing serious. Just a little hot headed.(I'll translate - I'll kiss keefie's bottom because he is a mod now. I don't like people thinking that I'm less than cool as a cucumber, so I'll deny all emotions. I'll lie rather than let people think that I might have personal motivations for being sanctimonious.

Right you are decaf, in your world people don't stick up for their friends, instead they protect the rights and privileges of their enemies....

Bollocks

I'm obviously not saying that. Friends should stick up for each other in nearly all circumstances. My point is that nobody who is not friends with alstergren is condoning his actions, and nor do the people complaining have any personal vendetta with him, to the best of my knowledge.

Regarding your childish translation, I thought you knew me better than that mate. I don't care who's a mod and who isn't. I've had plenty of arguments with both. Should've been in live chat over the weekend.

[Keefie]

So the kangaroo court of pompous gits, and anally retentive tut tutters has met. Everyone is sure it is bad taste, and they would never suggest that people of a lower rank get a chance at taking their points. No rules have been broken, a lot of mud has been thrown. <yawns>

Bogan notes that those that care so much about what people think in public, are often jealous or resent those that don't care what people think. So we have a lot of bored people who rather than play the game, play politics having a massive circle jerk about how someone has "infringed" on the unwritten "norms" of acceptable behaviour(whilst still playing within the rules). Any of you have the balls to challenge alster to games? Didn't think so. Did all of the invited players join the game? No, surprising since some of the moralising nimbies* seem to think if a higher ranked person invites someone lower ranked to a game it is putting a gun to their head.

So josko.ri invited me to a poly quads game, with settings I'm not that good at(am I good at any settings is a question not to be asked)........ Should I be starting a thread in general, flaming/naming/shaming him for inviting someone lower ranked to games? I chose to join the game, but REMEMBER please most vocal nimbies, I had the option of declining the invite.

At least my idle curiosity has been satisfied in one respect. Wondering why keefie and coffeeboy don't get along. Turns out is because they are both so similar.


*NIMBY word of the day: August 06, 2008 in the urbandictionary.
1. Nimby - Not In My Back Yard; someone who opposes anything built right by where they live.
NIMBYs cause a lot of things to not get done.
2. Nimby - Used to describe a person or an attitude, NIMBY is an abbreviation for Not In My Back Yard. A NIMBY might agree that a community or a neigborhood needs a half-way house for convicts transitioning back to society, but doesn't want it placed too close to his or her own home or in the neighborhood. property values. too much traffic. ugly woobly boxes
Although the community council supported the zoning change, the NIMBYs argued strongly against the expansion of the trailer park

That is the american version. In Australia a nimby is a special type of faux liberal pest. A mouthy hypocrite who preaches and extoles the value/justice of any on trend social justice issue. Gay rights/marriage, refugee resettlement, the environment, urban sprawl, etc. Happy to talk gay rights, would not want gays married in their church or local park(there are a lot of older people in the neighbourhood we must be sensitive to their feelings). The worst of hypocrite as they actively obstruct that which they profess to support. City dwellers who declaim bush fire hazard reduction strategies as interfering with nature, then deplore the tragic waste of lives, and property(especially if affects their share portfolio) when the inevitable bushfire rips through the surplus fuel... Preach compassion, yet own shares in morally bankrupt insurance companies and are active in voting/retaining hard line responsibility deniers onto the company board.

It's very regrettable that you start making personal attacks

[rhp 1]

I'm struggling to believe there are people that care so much they do things like that to gain rank/medals!

You could easily flip that argument around and say something like... I don't know.... "I'm struggling to find a way to believe there are people that care so much about an online game that they're bent out of shape that a few noobs lose a couple of "points" that mean absolutely nothing"
Do these hopelessly lost and in need of CC protection lack the ability to click "decline" when sent an invitation? If so, then by all means, something should be done... if they do possess this ability? I say, oh well..
And more to the point of this thread? I would think in c&a you would need a pattern of this going on over many games... not just one or 2 examples...

[rhp 1]

So the kangaroo court of pompous gits, and anally retentive tut tutters has met. Everyone is sure it is bad taste, and they would never suggest that people of a lower rank get a chance at taking their points. No rules have been broken, a lot of mud has been thrown. <yawns>

Bogan notes that those that care so much about what people think in public, are often jealous or resent those that don't care what people think. So we have a lot of bored people who rather than play the game, play politics having a massive circle jerk about how someone has "infringed" on the unwritten "norms" of acceptable behaviour(whilst still playing within the rules). Any of you have the balls to challenge alster to games? Didn't think so. Did all of the invited players join the game? No, surprising since some of the moralising nimbies* seem to think if a higher ranked person invites someone lower ranked to a game it is putting a gun to their head.

So josko.ri invited me to a poly quads game, with settings I'm not that good at(am I good at any settings is a question not to be asked)........ Should I be starting a thread in general, flaming/naming/shaming him for inviting someone lower ranked to games? I chose to join the game, but REMEMBER please most vocal nimbies, I had the option of declining the invite.

At least my idle curiosity has been satisfied in one respect. Wondering why keefie and coffeeboy don't get along. Turns out is because they are both so similar.


*NIMBY word of the day: August 06, 2008 in the urbandictionary.
1. Nimby - Not In My Back Yard; someone who opposes anything built right by where they live.
NIMBYs cause a lot of things to not get done.
2. Nimby - Used to describe a person or an attitude, NIMBY is an abbreviation for Not In My Back Yard. A NIMBY might agree that a community or a neigborhood needs a half-way house for convicts transitioning back to society, but doesn't want it placed too close to his or her own home or in the neighborhood. property values. too much traffic. ugly woobly boxes
Although the community council supported the zoning change, the NIMBYs argued strongly against the expansion of the trailer park

That is the american version. In Australia a nimby is a special type of faux liberal pest. A mouthy hypocrite who preaches and extoles the value/justice of any on trend social justice issue. Gay rights/marriage, refugee resettlement, the environment, urban sprawl, etc. Happy to talk gay rights, would not want gays married in their church or local park(there are a lot of older people in the neighbourhood we must be sensitive to their feelings). The worst of hypocrite as they actively obstruct that which they profess to support. City dwellers who declaim bush fire hazard reduction strategies as interfering with nature, then deplore the tragic waste of lives, and property(especially if affects their share portfolio) when the inevitable bushfire rips through the surplus fuel... Preach compassion, yet own shares in morally bankrupt insurance companies and are active in voting/retaining hard line responsibility deniers onto the company board.

It's very regrettable that you start making personal attacks

I'm not sure it truly was a personal attack... more of an appropriate observation supporting a position I find to be suitably accurate.... not to mention insightful, witty, and rather humorous.

[Fruitcake]

i wish i felt as witty as some of you (i am really quite impressed at many of your skills with words). i just declined an invite from alster - oh no!!! - because it was on USA 2.1 BETA,
with fog, trench, and all other horrid settings which would make the game last 6 months.
frankly i didn't even look to see who else was invited. i just knew i hate that map. no problem...i assume. i always believed the acceptance of an invite was totally voluntary, i felt no "peer pressure"...actually no pressure at all...to accept the invite. if i was a cook (which of course i once was, i doubt i'd accept an invitation from anyone who intimidated me...like a sergeant...lol. but if i chose to accept, knowing i would lose, i might also believe it was a way to see the map played by people of ranks who must certainly know what they are doing. it seems to me that many of you make the assumption that low rank = stupidity. i know that it does not. let everyone choose to accept or decline as they see fit, any invitation they get. sometimes it's flattering just to get an invite from the "big boys"...for ANY reason. methinks thou (all) dost protest too much. xo

My main issue with it is that rather than inviting one player to a quads and thus assuming that player will set up their own team, instead deliberately selecting all four players of the opposition..which can really only have been done on the expectation that the resulting team would be absolutely and totally incompetent.

This isn't about saying low ranks such as cooks are thick, it is about saying that the only the most inexperienced of players would consent to have their team chosen for them by their opposition. Those players were selected on the basis that they might be naive enough to go along with it. I consider it an abuse of the invite system and more generally an abuse of the game.

It is pleasing that those low ranks rejected the invitation and good for them. But what I am interested in here is the intention of the farmers in question.

Indeed Mr C.

Far better to set up a nice compliant team of low rankers led by somebody who knows what they are doing and then ambush high ranking triples games and farm them instead eh what!

[rhp 1]

Funny how the only people defending alster are his mates. I'll happily play against him; have done before and will do again. This is clearly pathetic but the precedent has already been set that farming for medals is acceptable.

By the way Bogan, Keefie and I get along fine. We have disagreements but nothing serious. Just a little hot headed.

Simply not true... I've posted similar diatribes in similar threads... I wouldn't know the "accused" if he jumped out of monitor and landed on my dog's head... never heard of him before... I get the point of this thread... but again.... they have a choice... how bout this, stop with these idiotic (harsh, but u get the point) threads protecting people who don't know how to click "decline" and start making threads that warn low rankers to not join games unless they're really super duper sure they want to join, and make clear to then if its a team of 4 top players they are going up against, they may not win...

[iAmCaffeine]

Funny how the only people defending alster are his mates. I'll happily play against him; have done before and will do again. This is clearly pathetic but the precedent has already been set that farming for medals is acceptable.

By the way Bogan, Keefie and I get along fine. We have disagreements but nothing serious. Just a little hot headed.

Simply not true... I've posted similar diatribes in similar threads... I wouldn't know the "accused" if he jumped out of monitor and landed on my dog's head... never heard of him before... I get the point of this thread... but again.... they have a choice... how bout this, stop with these idiotic (harsh, but u get the point) threads protecting people who don't know how to click "decline" and start making threads that warn low rankers to not join games unless they're really super duper sure they want to join, and make clear to then if its a team of 4 top players they are going up against, they may not win...

I was only counting people in this thread and you hadn't posted yet. Not sure how you can defend blatant farming for medals, but whatever.

[BoganGod]

So the kangaroo court of pompous gits, and anally retentive tut tutters has met. Everyone is sure it is bad taste, and they would never suggest that people of a lower rank get a chance at taking their points. No rules have been broken, a lot of mud has been thrown. <yawns>

Bogan notes that those that care so much about what people think in public, are often jealous or resent those that don't care what people think. So we have a lot of bored people who rather than play the game, play politics having a massive circle jerk about how someone has "infringed" on the unwritten "norms" of acceptable behaviour(whilst still playing within the rules). Any of you have the balls to challenge alster to games? Didn't think so. Did all of the invited players join the game? No, surprising since some of the moralising nimbies* seem to think if a higher ranked person invites someone lower ranked to a game it is putting a gun to their head.

So josko.ri invited me to a poly quads game, with settings I'm not that good at(am I good at any settings is a question not to be asked)........ Should I be starting a thread in general, flaming/naming/shaming him for inviting someone lower ranked to games? I chose to join the game, but REMEMBER please most vocal nimbies, I had the option of declining the invite.

At least my idle curiosity has been satisfied in one respect. Wondering why keefie and coffeeboy don't get along. Turns out is because they are both so similar.


*NIMBY word of the day: August 06, 2008 in the urbandictionary.
1. Nimby - Not In My Back Yard; someone who opposes anything built right by where they live.
NIMBYs cause a lot of things to not get done.
2. Nimby - Used to describe a person or an attitude, NIMBY is an abbreviation for Not In My Back Yard. A NIMBY might agree that a community or a neigborhood needs a half-way house for convicts transitioning back to society, but doesn't want it placed too close to his or her own home or in the neighborhood. property values. too much traffic. ugly woobly boxes
Although the community council supported the zoning change, the NIMBYs argued strongly against the expansion of the trailer park

That is the american version. In Australia a nimby is a special type of faux liberal pest. A mouthy hypocrite who preaches and extoles the value/justice of any on trend social justice issue. Gay rights/marriage, refugee resettlement, the environment, urban sprawl, etc. Happy to talk gay rights, would not want gays married in their church or local park(there are a lot of older people in the neighbourhood we must be sensitive to their feelings). The worst of hypocrite as they actively obstruct that which they profess to support. City dwellers who declaim bush fire hazard reduction strategies as interfering with nature, then deplore the tragic waste of lives, and property(especially if affects their share portfolio) when the inevitable bushfire rips through the surplus fuel... Preach compassion, yet own shares in morally bankrupt insurance companies and are active in voting/retaining hard line responsibility deniers onto the company board.

It's very regrettable that you start making personal attacks

This entire thread has been a personal attack. The op has clearly stated this is what the thread is about. Get off the crack pipe. So it is ok to flame/bait alster, but not ok to draw attention to the fact that people are doing that? No rules have been broken. It is very regrettable that you have to much time on your hands and don't have the insight to link your sanctimonious commentary and peoples direct reaction to same. Maybe I'm reading you wrong, in which case I admire your irony.

I'm obviously not saying that. Friends should stick up for each other in nearly all circumstances. My point is that nobody who is not friends with alstergren is condoning his actions, and nor do the people complaining have any personal vendetta with him, to the best of my knowledge.

Regarding your childish translation, I thought you knew me better than that mate. I don't care who's a mod and who isn't. I've had plenty of arguments with both. Should've been in live chat over the weekend.

This is entire thread is littered with people being completely disingenuous, two faced and total hypocrites(with some exceptions like my clown mates, rhp 1 and a few others. So am completely on topic). My replies are in total accord with the spirit and tone of thread.
Live chat and this thread have a lot in common. Places where people with too much time on their hands, waste said time. Rather than play they gobble, cluck and say. For work reasons I need to keep game numbers under what I would like. However if I find myself straying into live chat for any other reason than spruiking a speed game awaiting players, then I know that I have a no mates problem. Your non point about no one not obviously friends with alster getting in here is symptomatic of the group think fail a lot of faux liberal kiddies are suffering from. People that think different baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad, join our group hate goooooooooooooooooooooooood, use logic state no rules have been broken baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad etc. Also think you have failed to read some of the more recent posts....
Your capable of holding adult conversations I know, and not just about your continued love of the tele tubbies. In this thread I'm having the conversation with you that you deserve. So I guess I'm no longer getting an invite when you and keefie wed? Have an adult conversation rather than a bait fest, and I may not be so childish. I reserve the right to relax by being as childish as I wish.

@chang toothpaste guru - Any progress on finding a brand to endorse. Am relying on you to improve my dental hygiene.

[iAmCaffeine]

Bogan, the only flaming going on in this thread is coming from you. Nor is anyone baiting alstergren. Bringing his cheap tactics to people's attention is hardly baiting, just making a group of people aware, like rhp actually suggested.

You often go on about people in the forums wasting time by not playing the game, yet you're one of the most prolific and frequent posters currently around.. Slightly hypocritical there mate.

Can you stop jumping to mad assumptions? Where is the hate group? I don't know Fruitcake, I don't get along with Mr. C and can't even recall the other people voicing their dislike of what's going on, apart from Keefie of course.

Chill out.

[BoganGod]

Bogan, the only flaming going on in this thread is coming from you. Nor is anyone baiting alstergren. Bringing his cheap tactics to people's attention is hardly baiting, just making a group of people aware, like rhp actually suggested.

You often go on about people in the forums wasting time by not playing the game, yet you're one of the most prolific and frequent posters currently around.. Slightly hypocritical there mate.

Can you stop jumping to mad assumptions? Where is the hate group? I don't know Fruitcake, I don't get along with Mr. C and can't even recall the other people voicing their dislike of what's going on, apart from Keefie of course.

Chill out.

Sorry I've touched a nerve sweetie. I post frequently, because I can't have the game load I would like. However I don't make a habit of starting flaming threads which this is. Don't take things so seriously, work on that OCD, keep on taking the aspergers meds and focus on the positives. So you don't get along with Mr C, until of course someone else says that. I which case "Mr C and I are tight, brothers from another mother, just hot headed sibling rivalry in public" Am happy to contribute to the cost of some decent glasses for your birthday, maybe they are cheaper in Oz than the UK. Send me your prescription I might be able to get my health fund to chip in. Know I can get two pairs(different frames so I look cool) for 35pounds. Of course would be wasted on me, my eyes are still working fine. It is my joints that are hating old age. Let me know about the glasses mate. I'm here to help.

[iAmCaffeine]

Carry on flaming me mate, not gonna waste my time.

[rhp 1]

Funny how the only people defending alster are his mates. I'll happily play against him; have done before and will do again. This is clearly pathetic but the precedent has already been set that farming for medals is acceptable.

By the way Bogan, Keefie and I get along fine. We have disagreements but nothing serious. Just a little hot headed.

Simply not true... I've posted similar diatribes in similar threads... I wouldn't know the "accused" if he jumped out of monitor and landed on my dog's head... never heard of him before... I get the point of this thread... but again.... they have a choice... how bout this, stop with these idiotic (harsh, but u get the point) threads protecting people who don't know how to click "decline" and start making threads that warn low rankers to not join games unless they're really super duper sure they want to join, and make clear to then if its a team of 4 top players they are going up against, they may not win...

I was only counting people in this thread and you hadn't posted yet. Not sure how you can defend blatant farming for medals, but whatever.

im defending nothing.. I'm saying anyone who is invited to a game can decline... that is a fact... and to "protect" people from invitations is silly.. sorry.. it is

[Jdsizzleslice]

Low down... alstegren is just point crazy. But what can you do... everyone has the right to send and accept/decline an invite.

This issue has been around for a while. As long as it's not an abuse of the game, because that's what Gen.LeeGettinhed for a long time. Invite low rankers to games, just 1v1. And basically tried to loophole around that, but was unsuccessful. I say there isn't an abuse yet, but keep a watch on this because it might turn into future abuse.

[BoganGod]

Carry on flaming me mate, not gonna waste my time.

Waste your time calling people cheap and flaming them though.... when you can't have a laugh maybe cut down on the emo music messes with your head mate.

[iAmCaffeine]

Carry on flaming me mate, not gonna waste my time.

Waste your time calling people cheap and flaming them though.... when you can't have a laugh maybe cut down on the emo music messes with your head mate.

Alstergren's tactics are cheap but I have not flamed him. I don't flame people behind their backs. Prove me wrong.