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Postby tahitiwahini on Fri May 18, 2007 6:17 pm

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tahitiwahini wrote:Hector,

It is possible to be humorous without passing off your own words as someone else's. If it's done often then apparently there are more people who don't understand this than I thought.

It's obvious to me that no one would say what he was purported to have said, but I still think it's a cheap tactic and makes me for one less likely to attach any seriousness to the argument made. If a person is willing to fraudulently pass off his words as someone else's what else are they willing to do?

I'm sorry that this strikes you as acceptable discourse.
Although you have made some good points, you seem to have one major fault: you lack any vestiges of a sense of humor. The comedic device Dancing Mustard employed is known as satire. It is a well-known and oft-used method for making fun of somebody. Another excellent technique is the one which I am employing. It involves imitating the target's typing style. I have emulated your style by immersing my post in a solution of byzantine words, then saturating it with a sauce made from superfluous, redundant, and unnecessary adjectives, and, finally, sprinkled a touch of condescension to complete the recipe. I hope you like it.


See, you managed to be humorous without lying about a quote. It's possible to be funny without lying about what someone said. That was my point and you seem to have grasped it despite all the byzantine words.
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Postby helmut on Fri May 18, 2007 6:21 pm

tahitiwahini wrote:
helmut wrote:
tahitiwahini wrote:Hector,

It is possible to be humorous without passing off your own words as someone else's. If it's done often then apparently there are more people who don't understand this than I thought.

It's obvious to me that no one would say what he was purported to have said, but I still think it's a cheap tactic and makes me for one less likely to attach any seriousness to the argument made. If a person is willing to fraudulently pass off his words as someone else's what else are they willing to do?

I'm sorry that this strikes you as acceptable discourse.
Although you have made some good points, you seem to have one major fault: you lack any vestiges of a sense of humor. The comedic device Dancing Mustard employed is known as satire. It is a well-known and oft-used method for making fun of somebody. Another excellent technique is the one which I am employing. It involves imitating the target's typing style. I have emulated your style by immersing my post in a solution of byzantine words, then saturating it with a sauce made from superfluous, redundant, and unnecessary adjectives, and, finally, sprinkled a touch of condescension to complete the recipe. I hope you like it.


See, you managed to be humorous without lying about a quote. It's possible to be funny without lying about what someone said. That was my point and you seem to have grasped it despite all the byzantine words.
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Postby Bigfalcon65 on Fri May 18, 2007 6:39 pm

i think it should of been done long ago, spamlot is terrible and very bad for this site, most members bring everything down
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Postby hecter on Fri May 18, 2007 6:43 pm

Bigfalcon65 wrote:i think it should of been done long ago, spamlot is terrible and very bad for this site, most members bring everything down

Coming from the bigot who really only posts in Flame Wars.
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Postby Bigfalcon65 on Fri May 18, 2007 6:45 pm

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Bigfalcon65 wrote:i think it should of been done long ago, spamlot is terrible and very bad for this site, most members bring everything down

Coming from the bigot who really only posts in Flame Wars.


Shut up hecter, your one of the worsts, i give you the same iq comments as you give me. Thats how i deal with spam.
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Postby helmut on Fri May 18, 2007 6:47 pm

Bigfalcon65 wrote:
hecter wrote:
Bigfalcon65 wrote:i think it should of been done long ago, spamlot is terrible and very bad for this site, most members bring everything down

Coming from the bigot who really only posts in Flame Wars.


Shut up hecter, your one of the worsts, i give you the same iq comments as you give me. Thats how i deal with spam.
Well, looks like another thread down the drain. That seems to usually be the case when this guy shows up. :roll:
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Postby hecter on Fri May 18, 2007 6:48 pm

Look Bigfalcon, you REALLY don't know what you're talking about, okay. So, why don't you go back to Flame Wars and spew your slurs with xtratabasco. I can clearly see that you have nothing to offer to this topic.
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Postby dcowboys055 on Fri May 18, 2007 6:49 pm

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wcaclimbing wrote:Maybe they will fix this all by tonight!


Fix what?


Good question.
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Postby Bigfalcon65 on Fri May 18, 2007 6:58 pm

hecter wrote:Look Bigfalcon, you REALLY don't know what you're talking about, okay. So, why don't you go back to Flame Wars and spew your slurs with xtratabasco. I can clearly see that you have nothing to offer to this topic.


Yea i do but as sual your too dumb, i said he did the right thing getting rid of the thread because all spam should be deleted.
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Postby hecter on Fri May 18, 2007 7:01 pm

Bigfalcon65 wrote:
hecter wrote:Look Bigfalcon, you REALLY don't know what you're talking about, okay. So, why don't you go back to Flame Wars and spew your slurs with xtratabasco. I can clearly see that you have nothing to offer to this topic.


Yea i do but as sual your too dumb, i said he did the right thing getting rid of the thread because all spam should be deleted.

1. Get out of this thread, as you have nothing to offer
2. If he should get rid of all spam, then your post count will drop to 0
3. You don't know what you're talking about
4. Whether or not he did the right thing is still up for discussion
5. Get out as you have nothing to offer (just thought I'd repeat myself, in case you didn't get it the second time)
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Postby Bigfalcon65 on Fri May 18, 2007 7:04 pm

hecter wrote:
Bigfalcon65 wrote:
hecter wrote:Look Bigfalcon, you REALLY don't know what you're talking about, okay. So, why don't you go back to Flame Wars and spew your slurs with xtratabasco. I can clearly see that you have nothing to offer to this topic.


Yea i do but as sual your too dumb, i said he did the right thing getting rid of the thread because all spam should be deleted.

1. Get out of this thread, as you have nothing to offer
2. If he should get rid of all spam, then your post count will drop to 0
3. You don't know what you're talking about
4. Whether or not he did the right thing is still up for discussion
5. Get out as you have nothing to offer (just thought I'd repeat myself, in case you didn't get it the second time)


I already did offer my 2 cents, but yet again your stupididty has affected your reading ability, second i do know what im talking about, its you that has no clue and will always fail to have a clue.
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Postby vtmarik on Fri May 18, 2007 8:25 pm

Ok, those that support Spamalot, those that don't but disagree with AK's move, and those that are happy to see it go in general have all made their cases.

Can we please let this rest and let the gears turn as they eventually will, or does a mod need to lock it so it doesn't drag on inexorably?
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Postby Stopper on Fri May 18, 2007 8:43 pm

No, vt, because I want to throw my ha'p'orth in, and I will, now it's Friday, and I've the chance. These forums have become quite vicious in the last couple of days.

Spamelot, or whatever it was called, should NOT have been deleted, not least because long-timers like myself were barely aware of it. It seemed to have served its function - ie lessening the spam over the forums in general by providing a lightning rod for it. Let's face it - CC is dominated by teenage boys, so there's bound to be a lot of spam just by its very nature.

I'm also surprised by its apparently sudden deletion. I visit here regularly, so I've no reason to believe it wasn't sudden, as the threads complaining of it suddenly appeared everywhere. I'm not entirely surprised IC is accused of it, as I've not been impressed by his attitude to younger people on this site in the past.

I'm also surprised by the length of time it seems to have taken the mods & lackattack to resolve this. Get it resolved quickly - you seemed to deal with dugcarr quickly and appropriately enough - and we can all leave or not, depending on your decision. Personally, my subs' coming up for renewal soon, so, you know, I'd like this finished with.
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Postby mibi on Fri May 18, 2007 8:46 pm

yeah!... what stopper said.
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Postby wiggybowler on Fri May 18, 2007 9:25 pm

Stopper wrote:No, vt, because I want to throw my ha'p'orth in, and I will, now it's Friday, and I've the chance. These forums have become quite vicious in the last couple of days.

Spamelot, or whatever it was called, should NOT have been deleted, not least because long-timers like myself were barely aware of it. It seemed to have served its function - ie lessening the spam over the forums in general by providing a lightning rod for it. Let's face it - CC is dominated by teenage boys, so there's bound to be a lot of spam just by its very nature.

I'm also surprised by its apparently sudden deletion. I visit here regularly, so I've no reason to believe it wasn't sudden, as the threads complaining of it suddenly appeared everywhere. I'm not entirely surprised IC is accused of it, as I've not been impressed by his attitude to younger people on this site in the past.

I'm also surprised by the length of time it seems to have taken the mods & lackattack to resolve this. Get it resolved quickly - you seemed to deal with dugcarr quickly and appropriately enough - and we can all leave or not, depending on your decision. Personally, my subs' coming up for renewal soon, so, you know, I'd like this finished with.


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Postby Iliad on Fri May 18, 2007 10:51 pm

Bigfalcon65 wrote:
hecter wrote:
Bigfalcon65 wrote:
hecter wrote:Look Bigfalcon, you REALLY don't know what you're talking about, okay. So, why don't you go back to Flame Wars and spew your slurs with xtratabasco. I can clearly see that you have nothing to offer to this topic.


Yea i do but as sual your too dumb, i said he did the right thing getting rid of the thread because all spam should be deleted.

1. Get out of this thread, as you have nothing to offer
2. If he should get rid of all spam, then your post count will drop to 0
3. You don't know what you're talking about
4. Whether or not he did the right thing is still up for discussion
5. Get out as you have nothing to offer (just thought I'd repeat myself, in case you didn't get it the second time)


I already did offer my 2 cents, but yet again your stupididty has affected your reading ability, second i do know what im talking about, its you that has no clue and will always fail to have a clue.

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Postby Vincent M on Fri May 18, 2007 11:43 pm

Stopper wrote:I'm also surprised by the length of time it seems to have taken the mods & lackattack to resolve this. Get it resolved quickly - you seemed to deal with dugcarr quickly and appropriately enough - and we can all leave or not, depending on your decision. Personally, my subs' coming up for renewal soon, so, you know, I'd like this finished with.
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Postby diddle on Sat May 19, 2007 4:21 am

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Stopper wrote:I'm also surprised by the length of time it seems to have taken the mods & lackattack to resolve this. Get it resolved quickly - you seemed to deal with dugcarr quickly and appropriately enough - and we can all leave or not, depending on your decision. Personally, my subs' coming up for renewal soon, so, you know, I'd like this finished with.
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well said, but as they say, slow and steady wins the race, we don't want to apply any more pressure to the mos
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Postby Beastly on Sat May 19, 2007 4:34 am

You know I would really like to know....

and not from the Spammies points of view..

What was so wrong with the thread that it had to be deleted, instead of Locked.

This is a question that is soooooooo important for the poll.

I mean I really think that thread was dumb, so I didn't participate in it.

and if its gone I could care less.

But the thread NEVER bothered me.

I have not seen nothing from the Iceman or an explanation of why it was deleted from anyone except the spammer rammers.

Why wasn't it just locked?

Was this threads deletion used as some kind of example of what will happen if a thread is made just for spamming purposes?

Was it because it had the word Spam in the title?

and please don't answer the questions I asked if you are going to say what you believe AK was thinking or was doing wrong. I want answers from reliable sources. Who aren't mad at AK.
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Postby jiminski on Sat May 19, 2007 7:09 am

Beastly wrote:You know I would really like to know....

and not from the Spammies points of view..

What was so wrong with the thread that it had to be deleted, instead of Locked.

This is a question that is soooooooo important for the poll.

I mean I really think that thread was dumb, so I didn't participate in it.

and if its gone I could care less.

But the thread NEVER bothered me.

I have not seen nothing from the Iceman or an explanation of why it was deleted from anyone except the spammer rammers.

Why wasn't it just locked?

Was this threads deletion used as some kind of example of what will happen if a thread is made just for spamming purposes?

Was it because it had the word Spam in the title?

and please don't answer the questions I asked if you are going to say what you believe AK was thinking or was doing wrong. I want answers from reliable sources. Who aren't mad at AK.



I have no axe to grind! i have read pretty much every word of this debate and feel i have a fair handle on what happened (you should know that i was not there and have never even visited Spamalot)
As i understand it there has been a bit of a feud between AK and the Spamalot members. I can only imagine that some members were a bit of a thorn in his side for some time. I also get the feeling that AK had probably grown fond of many of its members; caught between respect and desire to be part of their clique but as a mod being ultimately an outsider. He used to go into the thread as a mod in some cases but tried to join-in in other cases. There is probably not too much wrong with that but a fine balance to maintain.
After one such bout in which AK was mocked for joining-in and telling a joke (i am sure it could be a bear-pit to an outsider in that thread, there are some keen and eloquent minds at work) AK changed the name of the Author attributed to the thread in revenge. (Revenge is probably not where a mod should be)
The war of words escalated and AK threatened and subsequently deleted the thread.

There was a lot of detail in between and i am sure someone will call me an eegit for my take on it. However i ‘think’ i'm fairly close.
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Postby Aries on Sat May 19, 2007 7:15 am

Look, there was absolutely no good reason why AK did what he did. We followed all of the rules, and Spamalot was just a place to hang out and have fun. A lot of the social lounge was spam anyway, and we made it more fun, and we were just trying to start a clan, where we could have games. It was just a community where you could have fun. I still don't get WHY A.K. did that :x
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Postby hecter on Sat May 19, 2007 7:31 am

jiminski wrote:I have no axe to grind! i have read pretty much every word of this debate and feel i have a fair handle on what happened (you should know that i was not there and have never even visited Spamalot)
As i understand it there has been a bit of a feud between AK and the Spamalot members. I can only imagine that some members were a bit of a thorn in his side for some time. I also get the feeling that AK had probably grown fond of many of its members; caught between respect and desire to be part of their clique but as a mod being ultimately an outsider. He used to go into the thread as a mod in some cases but tried to join-in in other cases. There is probably not too much wrong with that but a fine balance to maintain.
After one such bout in which AK was mocked for joining-in and telling a joke (i am sure it could be a bear-pit to an outsider in that thread, there are some keen and eloquent minds at work) AK changed the name of the Author attributed to the thread in revenge. (Revenge is probably not where a mod should be)
The war of words escalated and AK threatened and subsequently deleted the thread.

There was a lot of detail in between and i am sure someone will call me an eegit for my take on it. However i ‘think’ i'm fairly close.

Your chronology is a bit off there. I don't think we were a bit of a thorn in his side, as he never said anything like that to us. He told the racist joke AFTER he changed the author of the thread, and AK, as far as I know, never seriously threatened to delete Spamalot. They had before, but I thought they were all jokes.

Anyways, it appears you have the gist of it.
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Postby hecter on Sat May 19, 2007 7:35 am

Beastly wrote:Why wasn't it just locked?

Was this threads deletion used as some kind of example of what will happen if a thread is made just for spamming purposes?

You see, did it even have to be locked? Did anything have to happen to it at all? Besides, locking a thread doesn't do much, except that it can still be re-read.

Also, it wasn't just deleted because it was made for spam, as there are still many spam threads out there.
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Postby Vincent M on Sat May 19, 2007 11:16 am

By the way

Just for your info this is the worst Sat. ever on the forums

why you ask

Because there is no Spamalot
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Postby dominationnation on Sat May 19, 2007 11:18 am

Vincent M wrote:By the way

Just for your info this is the worst Sat. ever on the forums

why you ask

Because there is no Spamalot


Im actually forced to agree with you. there have been so few posts is depressing
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