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Crown makes a good argument, we did try this in last game and it failed miserably because town lost, but I think this is the way to go but lets be more careful and find the most scummiest person! With moo prodding the inactives it will generate more activity hopefully or hopefully they will be replaced/modkilled. If they do begin to talk there is a higher probabilty that someone will slip and we can get a successful lynch!TheCrown wrote:And I'm not saying anyone knows for sure DB4 is mafia... but just seems like he threw out some votes, switched directions easy, too easy. Odds are, we are not going to hit mafia on day 1, without any info. But, it would show us voting patterns, so I think we should lynch someone to get more info, and we could get lucky. I would prefer one of the guys not talking to DB4, so we either need to take that path or not.
You voted yourself... so you should be included in the package of possible scum, right?DB4Christ wrote:Unvote DB4
Okay townies, here's the way I see it, the game logic says there are most probably SCUM in this voting package:
DB4Christ - archer3base, justplay4fun, Ragot25, qbert68, Gabsensei, Killuminati19, Crasp, DB4Christ, Elsuper bano
The last time in VT I tried to get my fellow townies to see this, I was argued down. The SCUM know I am a townie.....and this is the number one way for SCUM to kill by day. It doesn't matter if there are one or two mafia's, the method and reason remains.
There are SCUM in here!

crown I called Elsuper out on the bottom of pg. 19 & as far as I can tell he still hasn't respondedKing Edward 3rd wrote:What seems suspicious to me is that this is only your 3rd post & you jump in & vote for someone who is at the top of the list of players to be lynched with no reason why. Your 1st post was a check in & the 2nd was a response to a doughnut comment. Care to explain ? Or are u going to lay low again ? unvote, vote Elsuper banoElsuper bano wrote:I don't know why but this seems really suspicious to meDB4Christ wrote:TC.......Have you ever known me to lie....! If you want to lynch me ...go for it. No powers, but the town just lost a good citizen. That's history repeating itself all over again huh TC.Doughnuts are on me Townies!
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Very wise and I have 4 of those 5 on my list of top 5.DB4Christ wrote:Of that voting group, here are my main suspects, in no particular order:
archer3base, justplay4fun, Ragot25, qbert68, Gabsensei,
I selected these five either because of inactivity after voting, or just for scummy inactivity. Like many of you have stated, there is no surefire way to know on D1, but this method is the most logical. That's provided we don't get a slip up or tell to go off of.

I am not moving my vote from DB4 just yet. No one has given me a good enough reason to change my original vote. Just remember, everyone followed me after I voted. I did not bandwagon and I presented a good reason originally for why DB4 might be scum.CHECK-M8 wrote:Very wise and I have 4 of those 5 on my list of top 5.DB4Christ wrote:Of that voting group, here are my main suspects, in no particular order:
archer3base, justplay4fun, Ragot25, qbert68, Gabsensei,
I selected these five either because of inactivity after voting, or just for scummy inactivity. Like many of you have stated, there is no surefire way to know on D1, but this method is the most logical. That's provided we don't get a slip up or tell to go off of.
With the inactivity occurring I dont want to lynch because inactive is not the best reason but we need to get them talking with any information they have and/or claim a role.CHECK-M8 wrote:Very wise and I have 4 of those 5 on my list of top 5.DB4Christ wrote:Of that voting group, here are my main suspects, in no particular order:
archer3base, justplay4fun, Ragot25, qbert68, Gabsensei,
I selected these five either because of inactivity after voting, or just for scummy inactivity. Like many of you have stated, there is no surefire way to know on D1, but this method is the most logical. That's provided we don't get a slip up or tell to go off of.
In what world is scenario 2 more likely?? The fact that for 3 days I am the only one that stood up for him should tell you that he isn't mafia. The speed with which everyone jumped on the bandwagon should tell you all the mafias, whether there is just one or two, were trying to get him strung up. I still am in the dark as to why he voted for himself, and that needs to be explained to me at some point, but I see no way he is mafia. He may be some sort of 3rd party but not mafia IMHO.archer3base wrote:
I am not moving my vote from DB4 just yet. No one has given me a good enough reason to change my original vote. Just remember, everyone followed me after I voted. I did not bandwagon and I presented a good reason originally for why DB4 might be scum.
Just ask yourself which is the more likely scenario:
Scenario 1 - Assume DB4 is not scum. That would mean all scum voted for DB4 because if they hadn't, the other scum would have thrown in that 10th vote to get rid of a townie.
Scenario 2 - Assume DB4 is scum. No scum would have voted for DB4 (except DB4, which is a strange but calculated risk), which would only leave a few townies left to get that final vote. It would also mean that all the people who haven't voted for DB4 would be on the list of scum candidates. These people would also most likely be the ones trying to sway the vote.
In the first scenario, scum would have no problem casting that final vote as they know for sure that DB4 was a townie and they would be lynching someone from the opposite side. Scenario 2 a townie would have to have taken a leap of faith to place that final vote to lynch which is a much tougher thing to do.
Either way, I think we've gathered some good information. I think scenario 2 is more likely but that's just me and I'm not going to change my vote. Boom!

Seems fair enoughTheCrown wrote:@CHECK, if he turns up mafia, you will have no problem with us lynching you next? How sure are you?
Maybe you are part of the mafia and you guys orchestrated it that way... who knows. We literally have nothing to go on except to look at the votes. Based purely on how the voting went (got to 9 and didn't get the final vote), I think scenario 2 is more likely. At lot harder to get that final vote from a townie than scum. JMO...CHECK-M8 wrote:In what world is scenario 2 more likely?? The fact that for 3 days I am the only one that stood up for him should tell you that he isn't mafia. The speed with which everyone jumped on the bandwagon should tell you all the mafias, whether there is just one or two, were trying to get him strung up. I still am in the dark as to why he voted for himself, and that needs to be explained to me at some point, but I see no way he is mafia. He may be some sort of 3rd party but not mafia IMHO.archer3base wrote:
I am not moving my vote from DB4 just yet. No one has given me a good enough reason to change my original vote. Just remember, everyone followed me after I voted. I did not bandwagon and I presented a good reason originally for why DB4 might be scum.
Just ask yourself which is the more likely scenario:
Scenario 1 - Assume DB4 is not scum. That would mean all scum voted for DB4 because if they hadn't, the other scum would have thrown in that 10th vote to get rid of a townie.
Scenario 2 - Assume DB4 is scum. No scum would have voted for DB4 (except DB4, which is a strange but calculated risk), which would only leave a few townies left to get that final vote. It would also mean that all the people who haven't voted for DB4 would be on the list of scum candidates. These people would also most likely be the ones trying to sway the vote.
In the first scenario, scum would have no problem casting that final vote as they know for sure that DB4 was a townie and they would be lynching someone from the opposite side. Scenario 2 a townie would have to have taken a leap of faith to place that final vote to lynch which is a much tougher thing to do.
Either way, I think we've gathered some good information. I think scenario 2 is more likely but that's just me and I'm not going to change my vote. Boom!
