Re: Neighborhood Mafia (4/7) Game Over: Town Win!

[epic pie]

I'm here also. Mainly checking the thread, as it takes less time, and only posting if need be (someone directly talks to me/mentions me, or a blatant mistake that no one has caught yet). I live with my family, and computer-time is rationed. I can't really read anyone's "style", this is my first game with any of you. I'll try to post more of my opinions/observations on here.

[virus90]

any opinions epic pie ? lot has happened and you havent said anything. also if your time is limited. we have a deadline today. better get your vote in

[mtamburini]

What time is the deadline again?

[virus90]

quote colton: In other news, a deadline has been set for Wednesday, November 6, at 17:00:00 CST.

[virus90]

okay still dont have a decisive answer on the 4 or 5 vote for a majority.rereading i know why:
from the start of the day 1 story:

Ding Chavez, Town Useless NPC has been murdered!

Day 1 is a go! With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

from the first vote count:

VOTE COUNT

With 7 alive it takes 5 to lynch

so will PM colton for an answer, cause how can we know if he gives mixed intel

sorry if/for double posting got another one on my way aswell probably but wanted to sort this out now.

[virus90]

Epic pie, i would like to know if you knew about the roleblocker being mafia or if you thought there where 2 possibilities with only 1 mafia, like i thought... lol...
will wall him to ask him to respond to this question, asume that is not against the rules.
That actually made me wonder is it ok to PM other players? the first line quoted below says you can get PM's from other players. the second one says it is forbidden to discuss anything outside this thread

What Not To Do

1. Do not quote any PM's you receive from the moderator or another player. You may say your name, role, associated abilities.
2. The game will not be discussed outside this thread, unless your role specifically says you can.

[epic pie]

Virus, I knew that the roleblocker was Mafia. Frankly, anyone who was confused by that gets a slight FOS in my opinion (careful rule reading is very important).
I don't really have any major opinions, only that Colton is a little vague and self-contradicting in his rules, and mtam is frenetic. TWO's inactivity is understandable. greg is kind of strange, I know he claimed, but I don't feel that negates his prior behavior fully.
I believe that I have a vote going for mtam, and no real reason to change it.

[virus90]

thx epic:)

My point is. we have 4 that didn't know or claim they did not know about the roleblocker: Me, IB, Two, and mtam.
as i understand the mafia knows about eachother. if we have a cop. there is a 50% chance that we have a roleblocker.
in case of scenario 1. the maffia would have known about eachother so would be in the camp that knew about the roleblocker: epic pie, greg and james. OR one of the not knowing camp would be lying.
Or we are in a situation were the mafia is 2 goons and 1 or maybe 2 thought the roleblocker would have been town if there was any.

[mtamburini]

vote James he is my fos looks scummy to me but it could be because he is new to game. I hope I am right and not killing a fellow townie.

[Iron Butterfly]

Epic pie, i would like to know if you knew about the roleblocker being mafia or if you thought there where 2 possibilities with only 1 mafia, like i thought... lol...
will wall him to ask him to respond to this question, asume that is not against the rules.
That actually made me wonder is it ok to PM other players? the first line quoted below says you can get PM's from other players. the second one says it is forbidden to discuss anything outside this thread

What Not To Do

1. Do not quote any PM's you receive from the moderator or another player. You may say your name, role, associated abilities.
2. The game will not be discussed outside this thread, unless your role specifically says you can.

that is a no no and grounds for a mod kill

[virus90]

@IB
thx clear

vote James he is my fos looks scummy to me but it could be because he is new to game. I hope I am right and not killing a fellow townie.

james is not new right? and i dont understand why you would pick james, for me he is one of the least scummy. For instance he pointed out that the roleblocker is mafia, if i were mafia i would not have done that. leave them ignorant..

[JamesKer1]

I am somewhat new- this is game three for me. However, I am trying my hardest not to play like it and change my rep around here.

Knowing that the roleblocker is town is not means for a vote. Considering there were others as well who saw that, I feel like that was more of a OMGUS vote after my FOS/Unvoted Vote yesterday (in real time not mafia time)... Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[virus90]

thx epic:)

My point is. we have 4 that didn't know or claim they did not know about the roleblocker: Me, IB, Two, and mtam.
as i understand the mafia knows about eachother. if we have a cop. there is a 50% chance that we have a roleblocker.
in case of scenario 1. the maffia would have known about eachother so would be in the camp that knew about the roleblocker: epic pie, greg and james. OR one of the not knowing camp would be lying.
Or we are in a situation were the mafia is 2 goons and 1 or maybe 2 thought the roleblocker would have been town if there was any.

ehmm greg didnt know about roleblocker aswell. i mixed that up in my post.

so what bothers me is that 2 people knew. the rest clearly did not. if there is a roleblocker, he and the goon know that they are mafia right. so if greg is the cop we are either in scenario 3 or someone is lying in the "i didnt know" camp. Or... well thats not the case i think: only the mafia knew. and that would be james and epic pie. But as stated before i dont see how james would tell us that roleblocker is mafia is he himself is mafia. so that sounds strange to me.

[colton24]

The 5 was a typo, it is 4 to lynch

With that...

VOTE COUNT

JamesKer1 - (1) - mtamburini
mtamburini - (2) - epic pie, JamesKer1

Not Voting: Iron Butterfly, virus90, gregwolf121, The Weird One

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch

Deadline extended to tomorrow at 17:00:00 CST

[JamesKer1]

I unvoted right?

[mtamburini]

Unvote James

[JamesKer1]

Unvote James

Not that I disagree, but your reasoning?

[mtamburini]

I got an extra day to think about it. Did not want to no lynch cause I w

[gregwolf121]

thx epic:)

My point is. we have 4 that didn't know or claim they did not know about the roleblocker: Me, IB, Two, and mtam.
as i understand the mafia knows about eachother. if we have a cop. there is a 50% chance that we have a roleblocker.
in case of scenario 1. the maffia would have known about eachother so would be in the camp that knew about the roleblocker: epic pie, greg and james. OR one of the not knowing camp would be lying.
Or we are in a situation were the mafia is 2 goons and 1 or maybe 2 thought the roleblocker would have been town if there was any.

okay virus i like your thinking here, except you got some facts wrong, the only ones to claim that they didn't know that the roleblocker was mafia was Virus, TWO, tam, and gregwolf,
james is the one who pointed out that the roleblocker was mafia,
epic said he knew that the roleblocker was mafia,
IB has never said yes or no

using logic and occams razor, i'll try to narrow down the suspect pool,
lets see 7 players, 2 mafia and 5 town
1. JamesKer1
2. virus90
3. epic pie
4. Iron Butterfly
5. The Weird One
6. mtamburini
7. gregwolf121

known townies
gregwolf121-town cop,
that leaves 6, 2 mafia and 4 town
1. JamesKer1
2. virus90
3. epic pie
4. Iron Butterfly
5. The Weird One
6. mtamburini
now we move into speculation
the following i believe to be town
jamesKer1, because he pointed out that the roleblocker was mafia, i highly doubt that mafia would do so, as it would serve mafia best to keep the town guessing
mtamburini, becuase he asked for the roleblocker to claim, i believe he did this to help town determine which scenario we were in, probably not the best move but again its highly doubtful that a mafia would do this, as the less information the town has the better it is for the mafia
that leaves 4, 2 mafia and 2 town
2. virus90
3. epic pie
4. Iron Butterfly
5. The Weird One

i'm reasonably sure that james and tam are town, but which of the last four players are which i'm not so sure.

The Weird One and virus90 both admitted to not knowing that the roleblocker was mafia,
and virus's case against me was quite well thought out, though he was wrong, in general i've gotten a pro-town feeling from virus,
TWO i haven't been able to read, doesn't seem like scum or town, just neutral
Iron Butterfly, basically has always advocated for a lynch,
epic pie, seems to be skimming quite a bit, i won't post the quotes case this post is already far to big but i'll post the page numbers
on page 5 towards the bottom, then on page 9,
okay so of the four left virus seems to be town, i'm not getting much off of TWO, IB slightly scummy vibes, but i'm getting more from epic, basically for skimming, he's admitted to laying low, and only posting when he has too, and his continual vote for tam when his original case was based on a false assumption. so i will vote epic pie

[epic pie]

Original vote may have been based on false assumption, but continued vote based on vibe and overall posting content.

Also, how is it remotely scummy to know that the hypothetical roleblocker would be Mafia, when it was almost deliberately and blatantly stated?
How is my "laying low" any different from TWO's?

[gregwolf121]

i wasn't using the fact that knew the roleblocker was mafia aligned as a reason for you to seem scummy to me,
as for the laying low, TWO said real life has been super busy for him, you said that you post only when you see your name, which suggests to me that you wish to avoid posting, hence laying low, scumarining is another word that is used for that.

[Iron Butterfly]

I'm here also. Mainly checking the thread, as it takes less time, and only posting if need be (someone directly talks to me/mentions me, or a blatant mistake that no one has caught yet). I live with my family, and computer-time is rationed. I can't really read anyone's "style", this is my first game with any of you. I'll try to post more of my opinions/observations on here.

vote epic pie

Reading the forums is not rocket science. A small game like this usually does not get walls of posts so its easy on the eyes. Several excuses wrapped into one post none of which sits well with me. It seems like hes trying to cover all his bases.

[virus90]

vote epic pie

i could perfectly live with this decision. as the others also said; not much information from you. wrote some things down on some of you yesterday this is what i wrote. bit outdated due to recent posts and stuff but the message is clear.

Epic Pie. to be honest your input has been close to 0, might be busy IRL or something, but you have not really reacted to major events and given little of your opinion. Really hope to see some more of you especially the opinions / observations you were talking about in your previous post.

[colton24]

VOTE COUNT

mtamburini - (2) - epic pie, JamesKer1
epic pie - (3) - L-1 - virus90, gregwolf121, Iron Butterfly

Not Voting: mtamburini, The Weird One

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch

[epic pie]

I've played enough games to know that want to avoid skimming and avoiding posting, but I really can't help it right now, as I have previously stated.
The only major event I haven't reacted to is greg's roleclainm. I felt that I couldn't add much to the discussion.