Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [16.01.14] V45 Fixes

[cairnswk]

Has the losing condition been changed now from the original

Be eliminated if:
-you hold no S/B's
-If you hold no non treasury regions?

Yes, it will be changed fron next xml and gfx upload.

[Gilligan]

Cairns, is there an XML I should be looking at? Or are you still working?
I just don't want to forget you.

[cairnswk]

Cairns, is there an XML I should be looking at? Or are you still working?
I just don't want to forget you.

Working on the xml now Gilligan...

[Jippd]

When xml is uploaded will current games undergo the new elimination conditions or will they be subject to the losing conditions that existed when the game was started?

[cairnswk]

When xml is uploaded will current games undergo the new elimination conditions or will they be subject to the losing conditions that existed when the game was started?

Depends...if they close the map for current games to finish, the present xml will prevail....however, everyone has been warned that new conditions are coming, and this is BETA, and players should expect this to occur....the new xml to change the losing condition
There is no change to territories numbers, only neutrals, borders and bombardments...as well as the losing condition and min number of regions

[cairnswk]

Just bumping Version 44a

[cairnswk]

^^ Have a go at this Gilligan.

[loutil]

I believe I found a problem. I am playing a fog game, polymorphic. I captured the Rainbow ship both B and S as well as Bull. However, Ld Henry Seymour is still blind to me with a ?. Is this an error? Should I not be able to attack? Thanks...

[Jippd]

You should only need rainbow S & B to hit Ld Henry Seymour. Can you post a screen shot? Fog out any other areas of the map you don't want to give away.

[loutil]

[loutil]

As you can see above I hold the required area but they are still blanked out. I took victory and ark royal as well and cannot attack the treasury there either...

I posted a more readable version below.

[loutil]

Click image to enlarge.

[Gilligan]

Are you able to attack it?

[loutil]

Are you able to attack it?

I did not think to try. Cleared out his other ships for win via objective but none of the treasuries cleared when I took the ships.

[Gilligan]

Maybe this ended up fixing itself, I am playing a fog game now and took Victory and San Cristobal and I can see the values on the monarchs.

[nolefan5311]

I also just want to clarify that you had the correct "player" trying to attack (i.e., green did not hold it and you tried attacking with red). I'm colorblind, so I can't really tell which is which.

The code is correct:

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<territory>
<name>Rainbow Stern</name>
<borders>
<border>Bull</border>
<border>Bark Bond</border>
<border>Rainbow Bow</border>
<border condition="Rainbow Command Ship">Ld Henry Seymour M1</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
<bombardment>Tramontana</bombardment>
<bombardment>FS (A)</bombardment>
<bombardment>Antelope</bombardment>
<bombardment>Tiger</bombardment>
<bombardment>Charles</bombardment>
</bombardments>
<coordinates>
<smallx>673</smallx>
<smally>242</smally>
<largex>749</largex>
<largey>269</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral>2</neutral>
</territory>

<territory>
<name>Rainbow Bow</name>
<borders>
<border>Rainbow Stern</border>
<border>Tiger</border>
<border>Charles</border>
<border condition="Rainbow Command Ship">Ld Henry Seymour M1</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
<bombardment>Bull</bombardment>
<bombardment>Bark Bond</bombardment>
<bombardment>Bonavolia</bombardment>
<bombardment>GL (A)</bombardment>
<bombardment>GL (B)</bombardment>
<bombardment>GL (C)</bombardment>
<bombardment>Antelope</bombardment>
</bombardments>
<coordinates>
<smallx>714</smallx>
<smally>242</smally>
<largex>795</largex>
<largey>269</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral>2</neutral>
</territory>

[loutil]

I also just want to clarify that you had the correct "player" trying to attack (i.e., green did not hold it and you tried attacking with red). I'm colorblind, so I can't really tell which is which.

The code is correct:

Code: Select all

<territory>
<name>Rainbow Stern</name>
<borders>
<border>Bull</border>
<border>Bark Bond</border>
<border>Rainbow Bow</border>
<border condition="Rainbow Command Ship">Ld Henry Seymour M1</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
<bombardment>Tramontana</bombardment>
<bombardment>FS (A)</bombardment>
<bombardment>Antelope</bombardment>
<bombardment>Tiger</bombardment>
<bombardment>Charles</bombardment>
</bombardments>
<coordinates>
<smallx>673</smallx>
<smally>242</smally>
<largex>749</largex>
<largey>269</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral>2</neutral>
</territory>

<territory>
<name>Rainbow Bow</name>
<borders>
<border>Rainbow Stern</border>
<border>Tiger</border>
<border>Charles</border>
<border condition="Rainbow Command Ship">Ld Henry Seymour M1</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
<bombardment>Bull</bombardment>
<bombardment>Bark Bond</bombardment>
<bombardment>Bonavolia</bombardment>
<bombardment>GL (A)</bombardment>
<bombardment>GL (B)</bombardment>
<bombardment>GL (C)</bombardment>
<bombardment>Antelope</bombardment>
</bombardments>
<coordinates>
<smallx>714</smallx>
<smally>242</smally>
<largex>795</largex>
<largey>269</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral>2</neutral>
</territory>

That would not matter as it stayed invisible to me for both my teams. Fortunately, I knocked him off his ships and won the game that way .

[Gilligan]

I also just want to clarify that you had the correct "player" trying to attack (i.e., green did not hold it and you tried attacking with red). I'm colorblind, so I can't really tell which is which.

The code is correct:

Code: Select all

<territory>
<name>Rainbow Stern</name>
<borders>
<border>Bull</border>
<border>Bark Bond</border>
<border>Rainbow Bow</border>
<border condition="Rainbow Command Ship">Ld Henry Seymour M1</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
<bombardment>Tramontana</bombardment>
<bombardment>FS (A)</bombardment>
<bombardment>Antelope</bombardment>
<bombardment>Tiger</bombardment>
<bombardment>Charles</bombardment>
</bombardments>
<coordinates>
<smallx>673</smallx>
<smally>242</smally>
<largex>749</largex>
<largey>269</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral>2</neutral>
</territory>

<territory>
<name>Rainbow Bow</name>
<borders>
<border>Rainbow Stern</border>
<border>Tiger</border>
<border>Charles</border>
<border condition="Rainbow Command Ship">Ld Henry Seymour M1</border>
</borders>
<bombardments>
<bombardment>Bull</bombardment>
<bombardment>Bark Bond</bombardment>
<bombardment>Bonavolia</bombardment>
<bombardment>GL (A)</bombardment>
<bombardment>GL (B)</bombardment>
<bombardment>GL (C)</bombardment>
<bombardment>Antelope</bombardment>
</bombardments>
<coordinates>
<smallx>714</smallx>
<smally>242</smally>
<largex>795</largex>
<largey>269</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral>2</neutral>
</territory>

That would not matter as it stayed invisible to me for both my teams. Fortunately, I knocked him off his ships and won the game that way .

I also played a polymorphic game with conditional borders. I could see the territories even when it wasn't my turn, so I'm not sure what happened here, but if it happens again bring it to bug reports.

[cairnswk]

Gilligan, did you get this...for xml checking.

Just bumping Version 44a

[Gilligan]

ah, not sure how I missed it. Thanks for the nudge.

[Faro]

I also just want to clarify that you had the correct "player" trying to attack (i.e., green did not hold it and you tried attacking with red). I'm colorblind, so I can't really tell which is which.

That would not matter as it stayed invisible to me for both my teams. Fortunately, I knocked him off his ships and won the game that way .

I also played a polymorphic game with conditional borders. I could see the territories even when it wasn't my turn, so I'm not sure what happened here, but if it happens again bring it to bug reports.

I am having the same problem game Game 13473281. I just took Ark Royal and cannot see the Monarch.
And as well on game Game 13473283 but this time for Capitania.

Both game are polymorphic game. Screenshot available by PM upon request.

[cairnswk]

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Both game are polymorphic game. Screenshot available by PM upon request.

Faro, can you PM me both screens shots please.
You know, i think this conditional function was working before poly games were introduced.
I have a 12 player fog game happening at present and i hold one command ship and can clearly see the monarch (which i also hold of course)
so...

[Faro]

Yes I think the issue is with the polymorphic. I am playing other game without the polymorphic and it's working perfectly.

[Gilligan]

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Both game are polymorphic game. Screenshot available by PM upon request.

Faro, can you PM me both screens shots please.
You know, i think this conditional function was working before poly games were introduced.
I have a 12 player fog game happening at present and i hold one command ship and can clearly see the monarch (which i also hold of course)
so...

I haven't had an issue with polymorphic either...

[cairnswk]

...
I haven't had an issue with polymorphic either...

yes but this seems to be happening in 1v1 poly where a player has two terts.