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Yeah, go ahead and do that, but put up things that aren't stupid. C is not a real choice and B is over the line.chemefreak wrote:Well, maybe we should vote in CDF to see how TOFU should be punished...chapcrap wrote:Please josko, we're looking to the future at this point. Punishment for this is not going to happen. We are looking at future drops.
A. No punishment.
B. Clan Ban (12 months).
C. Castration.
Just a thought.
I'm not serious. The decision has been made. I thought it was funny. Sigh.chapcrap wrote:Yeah, go ahead and do that, but put up things that aren't stupid. C is not a real choice and B is over the line.chemefreak wrote:Well, maybe we should vote in CDF to see how TOFU should be punished...chapcrap wrote:Please josko, we're looking to the future at this point. Punishment for this is not going to happen. We are looking at future drops.
A. No punishment.
B. Clan Ban (12 months).
C. Castration.
Just a thought.

I thought you meant hypothetical punishment for a new thing. Like to see what people were thinking for what punishments should be. I didn't think you meant a real punishment. Sorry for the mixup.chemefreak wrote:I'm not serious. The decision has been made. I thought it was funny. Sigh.chapcrap wrote:Yeah, go ahead and do that, but put up things that aren't stupid. C is not a real choice and B is over the line.chemefreak wrote:Well, maybe we should vote in CDF to see how TOFU should be punished...chapcrap wrote:Please josko, we're looking to the future at this point. Punishment for this is not going to happen. We are looking at future drops.
A. No punishment.
B. Clan Ban (12 months).
C. Castration.
Just a thought.


Keefie wrote:Are TOFU having a laugh ???? Within a few days of withdrawing from CL5 citing player shortages, they announce the signing of three new clan members

I would question truth of this statement because 15 TOFU old members (excluding the 3 new recruits) started new games or are assigned to waiting-to-start games during last one week. This is fact that everyone can very easy check if I told truth or lie. And minimum requirements for CL5 are only 10 players.Chariot of Fire wrote:TOFU reluctantly withdraws from CL5 as the commencement date of 2nd June would mean the clan could not meet the tourney requirements.

Your clan mate sjnap worded a perfect reply for me:josko.ri wrote:I would question truth of this statement because 15 TOFU old members (excluding the 3 new recruits) started new games or are assigned to waiting-to-start games during last one week. This is fact that everyone can very easy check if I told truth or lie. And minimum requirements for CL5 are only 10 players.
I just corrected untrue facts into true facts, no other point of my post.
sjnap wrote:Sigh, i dont even bother to read and reply to your post anymore. To much blablabla bs.
Twisting and turning, turning and twisting.
You spent way to much time on CC.
You simply dont get it huh. Go mind your own business and stir up in your own threads.

This thread is business of the whole clan world.Dako wrote:Your clan mate sjnap worded a perfect reply for me:josko.ri wrote:I would question truth of this statement because 15 TOFU old members (excluding the 3 new recruits) started new games or are assigned to waiting-to-start games during last one week. This is fact that everyone can very easy check if I told truth or lie. And minimum requirements for CL5 are only 10 players.
I just corrected untrue facts into true facts, no other point of my post.sjnap wrote:Sigh, i dont even bother to read and reply to your post anymore. To much blablabla bs.
Twisting and turning, turning and twisting.
You spent way to much time on CC.
You simply dont get it huh. Go mind your own business and stir up in your own threads.

its not 10 player--- its minimum required 14 player.josko.ri wrote:I would question truth of this statement because 15 TOFU old members (excluding the 3 new recruits) started new games or are assigned to waiting-to-start games during last one week. This is fact that everyone can very easy check if I told truth or lie. And minimum requirements for CL5 are only 10 players.Chariot of Fire wrote:TOFU reluctantly withdraws from CL5 as the commencement date of 2nd June would mean the clan could not meet the tourney requirements.
I just corrected untrue facts into true facts, no other point of my post.
we are having a decent discussion about how we would like our Clan world to be, lets not make this personal.josko.ri wrote:This thread is business of the whole clan world.Dako wrote:Your clan mate sjnap worded a perfect reply for me:josko.ri wrote:I would question truth of this statement because 15 TOFU old members (excluding the 3 new recruits) started new games or are assigned to waiting-to-start games during last one week. This is fact that everyone can very easy check if I told truth or lie. And minimum requirements for CL5 are only 10 players.
I just corrected untrue facts into true facts, no other point of my post.sjnap wrote:Sigh, i dont even bother to read and reply to your post anymore. To much blablabla bs.
Twisting and turning, turning and twisting.
You spent way to much time on CC.
You simply dont get it huh. Go mind your own business and stir up in your own threads.
My comments here are related to the topic and to my opinion that clan should not be allowed to participate in event with higher game load than it has the one they withdrew from at the same time.
Clan world does not deserve that you fool them by saying lie information about your players (un)availability when your players normally join other games.
I do not see how your comment contributed to this discussion nor how is it related to topic.eddie2 wrote:josko what happened to this ?????
22:59:04 he's agreed not to post anything more vs cof/tofu in public
22:59:12 whether or not he follows it, idk
22:59:22 but I think if tofu doesnt either, he might not
they said nothing towards you so why start again![]()

I do not see how your comment contributed to this discussion nor how is it related to topic.josko.ri wrote:I do not see how your comment contributed to this discussion nor how is it related to topic.eddie2 wrote:josko what happened to this ?????
22:59:04 he's agreed not to post anything more vs cof/tofu in public
22:59:12 whether or not he follows it, idk
22:59:22 but I think if tofu doesnt either, he might not
they said nothing towards you so why start again![]()
I put 2 comments in this topic, and both were on topic. One was correcting lie statement said by other person and that statement is related to topic of this thread (and I wrote in the reply that the only point of my post is to correct lie statement), and another one was also very related to topic of this discussion, about (not) allowing clans to participate at the same time in competitions with higher game load than competition they withdrew from.ljex wrote:I do not see how your comment contributed to this discussion nor how is it related to topic.josko.ri wrote:I do not see how your comment contributed to this discussion nor how is it related to topic.eddie2 wrote:josko what happened to this ?????
22:59:04 he's agreed not to post anything more vs cof/tofu in public
22:59:12 whether or not he follows it, idk
22:59:22 but I think if tofu doesnt either, he might not
they said nothing towards you so why start again![]()

I am sick of your accusations regarding truthful statements that you claim to be lies. You simply will not stop haranguing our clan and you seize upon every opportunity to contradict something someone has said when in truth you can neither prove nor disprove anything. You simply do it to be annoying. I am reporting your post because this ceaseless baiting of TOFU and its members has to cease.josko.ri wrote:I put 2 comments in this topic, and both were on topic. One was correcting lie statement said by other person and that statement is related to topic of this thread (and I wrote in the reply that the only point of my post is to correct lie statement), and another one was also very related to topic of this discussion, about (not) allowing clans to participate at the same time in competitions with higher game load than competition they withdrew from.ljex wrote:I do not see how your comment contributed to this discussion nor how is it related to topic.josko.ri wrote:I do not see how your comment contributed to this discussion nor how is it related to topic.eddie2 wrote:josko what happened to this ?????
22:59:04 he's agreed not to post anything more vs cof/tofu in public
22:59:12 whether or not he follows it, idk
22:59:22 but I think if tofu doesnt either, he might not
they said nothing towards you so why start again![]()

I used exact argument to prove truth of my statement, everyone can very easy check what is truth by just using game finder tool. If you cannot accept pure arguments that is your problem. Whatever I said I stay behind that, and nothing is lie. If you are going to report me for writing true facts, you are free to do it. I know it is often very hard to accept true facts and is easier to promote fake reality.Chariot of Fire wrote:I am sick of your accusations regarding truthful statements that you claim to be lies. You simply will not stop haranguing our clan and you seize upon every opportunity to contradict something someone has said when in truth you can neither prove nor disprove anything. You simply do it to be annoying. I am reporting your post because this ceaseless baiting of TOFU and its members has to cease.josko.ri wrote:I put 2 comments in this topic, and both were on topic. One was correcting lie statement said by other person and that statement is related to topic of this thread (and I wrote in the reply that the only point of my post is to correct lie statement), and another one was also very related to topic of this discussion, about (not) allowing clans to participate at the same time in competitions with higher game load than competition they withdrew from.ljex wrote:I do not see how your comment contributed to this discussion nor how is it related to topic.josko.ri wrote:I do not see how your comment contributed to this discussion nor how is it related to topic.eddie2 wrote:josko what happened to this ?????
22:59:04 he's agreed not to post anything more vs cof/tofu in public
22:59:12 whether or not he follows it, idk
22:59:22 but I think if tofu doesnt either, he might not
they said nothing towards you so why start again![]()


Of course that clan of possession of all the facts knows better, but it is possible that that clan is possessing one facts as a real reasons for withdrawing but telling to clan world other facts just to make themselves looking better.Chariot of Fire wrote:You use the terms 'exact argument' and 'pure argument' very liberally, when in reality all you are doing is making a supposition which is not fact-based at all. Who knows better who will be available for the duration of a tournament; you or the clan that is in possession of all the facts? The TO has already accepted our clan's withdrawal from CL5 and that is the end of the matter. I have no idea why you relentlessly pursue this topic and try to 'prove' that TOFU's withdrawal was unnecessary. What is the point, and what do you hope to gain? The only reason I can see is that you wish to discredit the clan and its members, and it is for this reason that your post was reported.

How are we making ourselves look better after withdrawing from a tournament that we were favourites to win? What possible motive could we have other than for the reasons we already gave? You have provided no plausible reason why TOFU withdrew from CL5 (but not from RL, 7-Up or CC4) yet you still cast aspersions on our clan and its members. This witch hunt by you has to stop, we are all growing sick and tired of it (and I'm sure I speak for some CC members who are not even in our clan).Of course that clan of possession of all the facts knows better, but it is possible that that clan is possessing one facts as a real reasons for withdrawing but telling to clan world other facts just to make themselves looking better. I think that may be reality with TOFU's case

Thank you Nicky. Should we discuss dropping of events here or in CDF?josko.ri wrote:Great, very reasonable ruling, and more important ruling which follows present rules and common sense.

It can be discussed in both places. This is not a simple issue so the opinions of a wider majority of the clan world may be useful in helping the CDF create a rule, should we decide one is needed.Dako wrote:Thank you Nicky. Should we discuss dropping of events here or in CDF?Great, very reasonable ruling, and more important ruling which follows present rules and common sense.
I see many of you are discussing about should clan who drop out be punished for not participating in next year competition which will start several months or one year after current competition.
But, I think people who are discussing about it do not consider more important issue, should those clans be allowed to enter/play in ongoing clan competitions, not in clan competitions that will happen sometimes in future.
If a clan cannot commit to play in one competition, then how the same clan at the same time can commit to play in another competition which has higher game load?
I do not say penalize withdrawing clan for lifetime or for next competitions (if they provide evidence that they recruited some new members), but I say eliminate them from all ongoing competitions which have equal or higher game load than competition which they withdrew from. If a clan cannot have commitment for example for 16 new games every 2 weeks, isn't it paradoxal to allow them to compete at the same time in another competition which has for example 20 new games every 2 weeks?
If the clan for future events recruit new players and be again able to compete, then allow them to enter, but at the same time of withdrawing one competition, the clan should not be allowed to play in another competition which has higher game load.
