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Very interesting stats. I think our games are singlehandedly boosting the results, because every one of our games so far has been either nuke or esc...jetsetwilly wrote:Just out of interest I had a look at the use of spoils so far, mainly to see how common Nukes were.
864 Games
Nukes 24 3%
No Spoils 529 61%
Escalating 206 24%
Flat Rate 105 12%
I expected to see the Nuke figure go a little higher but I guess it's still early days as far as their use in clan wars goes.
Group - 1 2 3 4 5 6
Nukes - 4 10 1 3 2 4
NS - 108 50 60 99 97 115
ESC - 24 64 48 27 25 18
Flat - 8 21 35 14 20 7
Im biased but I think you writing off TNC now is a bit short-sighted. look at our results...freakns wrote:expected... TLW beating Empire is the biggest one so far... then you guys beating AOC... maybe tie between PIG and TOFUIcePack wrote:Not to many surprises here yet.
i think by the end we will see 12 strongest teams advancing. TOFU, PIG, EMP, MYTH, AFOS, ID, AOC, FALL, IA, OTP, KORT, OSA... maybe FOED instead of ID, LOW instead of FALL.
What about qualification for a medal? We have less games now because of this, so we should either get to submit games with our players and have those count towards the game count or have a lowered game count down from 14. I recommend the former, but am fine with a game count of 12 instead of 14.qwert wrote:News- Empire and AOC withdraw from competition , and all hes played games will not be count.
QG2 and QG4 continue like 5th team groups. Qualification for Premier-Second-Third league stay same.
1st and 2nd will qualify for Premier
3rd and 4th will qualify for Second
5th will qualify for Third
This is very unfair decision.qwert wrote:News- Empire and AOC withdraw from competition , and all hes played games will not be count.
QG2 and QG4 continue like 5th team groups. Qualification for Premier-Second-Third league stay same.
1st and 2nd will qualify for Premier
3rd and 4th will qualify for Second
5th will qualify for Third
Consider that we lose 50 game spots. It's silly for us not to be able to use those. I'll submit my games against AoC for qualification in order to have my clan not lose out on game spots.qwert wrote:qualification group phase
25*8=200 spots
League phase
Premier-25*22= 550 spots
Second-25*22=550 spots
third-25*18=450 spots
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Total spots (Q+L) are 750 or 650 if you continue in third league.
game distribution per player
Low have 26 member (28 per player or 25 per player)
Fallen have 26 member (28 per player or 25 per player)
Risk have 20 member (37 per player or 32 per player)
VDLL have 34 member (22 per player or 19 per player)
AOK have 20 member (37 per player or 32 per player)
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consider that each player need to have minimum 14 played games to be qualify for medal award, still nobody are affected , and rule stay same.
There is a fair way to all, which needs just a little good will and honesty from organizer and from AoC and EMP to be done in reality. EMP and AOC may play in old roster the remaining 32 games (is it too much to ask?) just to determine placement which they would got in their group. then their vacated places fill with the best next placed clans from any group. for example, if AOC finish first in the group, it means they earned place in Division 1, so then give it to the best placed #3 their place. if they finish 3rd in the group, then they earned position in Division 2, in which case their position can be taken by the best placed #5 clan. And you have the most fair solution for everyone in given circumstances.BGtheBrain wrote: Not a very fair shake to the others, but I dont know what else you can do about it.
josko.ri wrote: Scenario 1: Just finish normal their group matches. After that, for example if both AOC and EMP qualify in top 2 places, then award 2 the best 3rd placed clans of all 6 groups to enter in Division 1 in their place. Also award 2 the best 5th placed clans to enter to Division 2. Why that scenario is better than your decision? With your decision, some lower clans who had luck just to be draw into group with AOC/EMP wil now get golden ticket to Division 1. it is a big favor to them and huge unfavor to lower clans from other groups who need to beat one of top clans in order to enter Division 1.
chapcrap wrote:Consider that we lose 50 game spots. It's silly for us not to be able to use those. I'll submit my games against AoC for qualification in order to have my clan not lose out on game spots.qwert wrote:qualification group phase
25*8=200 spots
League phase
Premier-25*22= 550 spots
Second-25*22=550 spots
third-25*18=450 spots
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Total spots (Q+L) are 750 or 650 if you continue in third league.
game distribution per player
Low have 26 member (28 per player or 25 per player)
Fallen have 26 member (28 per player or 25 per player)
Risk have 20 member (37 per player or 32 per player)
VDLL have 34 member (22 per player or 19 per player)
AOK have 20 member (37 per player or 32 per player)
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consider that each player need to have minimum 14 played games to be qualify for medal award, still nobody are affected , and rule stay same.
Well this is not a very smart decision. We end up having 6% less game spots than other clans if we're in the top two leagues and 19% less game spots if in the bottom league and we have to keep the same medal qualification rules? First of all, that's not fair. Second, I don't think it's your decision on who is eligible for medals. It's the CDs.qwert wrote:decision are made, and its will stay.
Ok, i dont know what you play, but these mine last postchapcrap wrote:chapcrap wrote:Consider that we lose 50 game spots. It's silly for us not to be able to use those. I'll submit my games against AoC for qualification in order to have my clan not lose out on game spots.qwert wrote:qualification group phase
25*8=200 spots
League phase
Premier-25*22= 550 spots
Second-25*22=550 spots
third-25*18=450 spots
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Total spots (Q+L) are 750 or 650 if you continue in third league.
game distribution per player
Low have 26 member (28 per player or 25 per player)
Fallen have 26 member (28 per player or 25 per player)
Risk have 20 member (37 per player or 32 per player)
VDLL have 34 member (22 per player or 19 per player)
AOK have 20 member (37 per player or 32 per player)
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consider that each player need to have minimum 14 played games to be qualify for medal award, still nobody are affected , and rule stay same.Well this is not a very smart decision. We end up having 6% less game spots than other clans if we're in the top two leagues and 19% less game spots if in the bottom league and we have to keep the same medal qualification rules? First of all, that's not fair. Second, I don't think it's your decision on who is eligible for medals. It's the CDs.qwert wrote:decision are made, and its will stay.
are related on AOC-EMP case, so what are your game here?qwert wrote:decision are made, and its will stay.
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Yeah, AOC is a great and respected clan but there was a good chance of the above happening.angola wrote:We were headed toward second or third place in our division anyway. I think it's a tad unfair to act as though Fallen and LOW were guaranteed to finish below us.
Thanks Angola,IcePack wrote:Yeah, AOC is a great and respected clan but there was a good chance of the above happening.angola wrote:We were headed toward second or third place in our division anyway. I think it's a tad unfair to act as though Fallen and LOW were guaranteed to finish below us.
Auto deciding that FALL and LOW would somehow fail to have a chance @ #1 is pretty poor choice based on results so far.
What about clan who will end 5th will now get golden ticket to Division 2? I used example how it is unfair someone who ends 3rd gets entrance to Div1 but the same unfairmess is someone 5th enter Div2IcePack wrote:Yeah, AOC is a great and respected clan but there was a good chance of the above happening.angola wrote:We were headed toward second or third place in our division anyway. I think it's a tad unfair to act as though Fallen and LOW were guaranteed to finish below us.
Auto deciding that FALL and LOW would somehow fail to have a chance @ #1 is pretty poor choice based on results so far.
I'll just respond to this post quick... it actually would have been both EMP and AOC's preference to not drop out, but we had to weigh our options here. If either/both of us had continued in the league and had active EMP or AOC clan games going, we would not be able to enter the Conquorer's Cup as we still had active games going. To us, participating in the CC was more important.josko.ri wrote:There is a fair way to all, which needs just a little good will and honesty from organizer and from AoC and EMP to be done in reality. EMP and AOC may play in old roster the remaining 32 games (is it too much to ask?) just to determine placement which they would got in their group. then their vacated places fill with the best next placed clans from any group. for example, if AOC finish first in the group, it means they earned place in Division 1, so then give it to the best placed #3 their place. if they finish 3rd in the group, then they earned position in Division 2, in which case their position can be taken by the best placed #5 clan. And you have the most fair solution for everyone in given circumstances.BGtheBrain wrote: Not a very fair shake to the others, but I dont know what else you can do about it.
josko.ri wrote: Scenario 1: Just finish normal their group matches. After that, for example if both AOC and EMP qualify in top 2 places, then award 2 the best 3rd placed clans of all 6 groups to enter in Division 1 in their place. Also award 2 the best 5th placed clans to enter to Division 2. Why that scenario is better than your decision? With your decision, some lower clans who had luck just to be draw into group with AOC/EMP wil now get golden ticket to Division 1. it is a big favor to them and huge unfavor to lower clans from other groups who need to beat one of top clans in order to enter Division 1.
