Night Strike wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:Yet another reason why letting business and competition have their sway without any check is just wrong.
I didn't know businesses had an impact on the number of abortions performed in China. Maybe instead of decrying everything that has to do with the marketplace, you would start decrying the people that kill innocent people.
Oh, yeah, forgot for a moment, thought I was talking to someone who actually thinks instead of just lobs off one-liners with a conservative bent.
Here is how it works.
First, in China, almost all business is either directly or indirectly run by the government. China is not a democracy, is extremely oppressive and restrictive. China also has billions of people. China has billions of people who, despite what folks in the west would like to believe, might dislike a few things about their government, but who are not going to just rise up and overthrow it. Even if they did, they would not suddenly turn into a western style democracy where all people are theoretically considered equal and given at least theoretical equal importance. In fact, they could really care less about what the west thinks is correct, because their society is much older, more enduring than ours. They will borrow a few attributes, learn from us, but will never BE us.
So, anything you say about business in China, using US and western models is just wrong, from the outset. China will be happy to give us the illusion of openness. They will allow US companies to sell a few things. particularly superficial and effectively meaningless things like Kentucky fried chicken or McDonald's. They will let more substantial stuff come in, primarily so they can gain access to the technology. They don’t have to do this immediately or in an obvious way. Similarly, they will partner/invest in various US companies. Having a US/western mindset, it might all seem independent, not tied together and with no real system.
EXCEPT--- there is essentially no US industry not touched by China.
So far, if all you are interested in is profit, its no big deal. Even if Chinese companies wind up taking a bigger and bigger chunk, there is enough to go around and besides, that’s just competition.
EXCEPT— its not just profit at risk here, not by a long stretch. Do you think a country that has no compunction about imprisoning, killing, isolating, etc its own population will somehow just play “nicey nice” with outsiders once it is large enough and powerful enough to no longer have to bow and scrape to us?
Every oppression, every discrimination China practices on its own people will be magnified elsewhere. We will be the colony.
Think I am just imagining? Well… why on earth would we expect this country to treat us better than it does its own people?
Also, think about all those cyber incursions, aka attacks. So far, there have been no real attacks, but…..
The idea that we can just be in business and not worry about a country like China is pretty much a classic case of "the love of money is the root of all evil"
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