betiko wrote:You can look back how ani apologized 100 times for sending a gift to IB yesterday and it wasn't even sure he would turn scum, when no one told him anything. scummy!!
Are you reading the same post that I posted when I talked about IB? Here have a look:
anamainiacks wrote:Well since he's going to be lynched, I thought I'd just lay the cards on the table.
I gifted IB on the most recent night. Why? Because I do believe nobody has gifted him for the entire game. (Let's be honest, he has done nothing to prove his townie-ness, and all the claimed gifters haven't mentioned him at all.) And if his claim were true, giving him a gift would be a plus for the townies, since he'd be able to trade in as a gift doubler. However if he were scum and used that as a fake claim, he wouldn't be able to trade it in, since he'd only have 1 gift. It was a calculated risk, I admit; but one that could have had the potential to help us.
I don't know if he'd confirm the gifting to make it look like we're in cahoots (if he turns scum), or deny it to try and throw a case onto me. I understand this might throw a great deal of suspicion on me, but I'd rather get this out in the open sooner than later, and have it seem all the more suspicious then.
Also, did nobody get gift stolen tonight? Or was chuck the one with the gift stealing ability? O.o Or is there yet another 3rd party keeping quiet all this while or something?
Not ONCE do I see any part where I said anything the line of "Oh no!" or "Crap, sorry!". I outlined my decision matter-of-factly, a decision which was a calculated risk - and one I still stand by. If it had been successful, it would have helped the townies vastly. And sure, nobody knew for sure if IB would turn scum, but he'd been investigated and turned Mafia. So isn't in only natural that I included speculation of IB's response based on him being scum?
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betiko wrote:also he followed my lead yesterday, and then when he saw the wind turn he lynched IB to look townish when I said I would do it if people asked me to. Also, the whole thing with rishaed tracking ani and that he visited mob is key, have a reread.
Might I point out that rishaed was the first person to unvote on IB when he was at L-1? And he never even voted again for IB in the end?
I cast the last vote when I had gotten the answers to all the questions I had. My focus was on why you insisted on voting Mets, when it was clear it wasn't going to happen. I found it absurd.
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betiko wrote:That's why we let people at l-2 to avoid these things, oh well, you guys have been following gustaf's gamestyle of of no talking just voting... never played a game where people were speedlynching like this without waiting for all the info, really not the best thing to do.
Well your gamestyle isn't working much either. First targeting Mets, and now targeting me - two townies - so adamantly to the point that you blind yourself to the possibility of us being town, even twisting information to support your case (see first section of this post).
I guess you really are town then, since you're caring too much to be a scum who just lost the game. But you've misguided the town quite a fair bit, and thrown unnecessary suspicion on yourself all this while. It's a good thing the town didn't listen to you on a number of those occasions. That said, I guess it's also a matter of a series of unfortunate events piling themselves up on you; and I still respect your gamestyle as your personal style.
I honestly don't know who to trust now, but I think we all know that Witt, edoc and Gustaf(?) can be cleared without a doubt. That leaves rishaed, MoB and me. I know I'm innocent, but I of course realise why you guys might have your doubts. I would suggest Gustaf to investigate either MoB or me, and someone Vig rishaed if anyone has enough gifts (he will stay alive if his isn't a fakeclaim). That way we get to investigate at least 2 out of the 3 people.
Anyhow, not much to say really until the scene.
. If not for your huge conspiracy theories, and more importantly your gift to me on N6 (which I traded along with the one from Witt for a Vig action), we wouldn't have won it. We could've won it earlier on, but we made some bad moves ourselves - like N4! I honestly thought the game was over for Mafia at that point...
