[CC3] SEMI FINALS KoRT vs TOFU 29-31 - Final 5/2

[Foxglove]

The point being......

All of those bad feelings to come back up to flame up this thread and make it a good read for me

Asshole.

[freakns]

The point being......

All of those bad feelings to come back up to flame up this thread and make it a good read for me

Asshole.

you never said anything as nice as this to me

[Pedronicus]

Maybe even better than being the first to beat THOTA.

Has anyone beat KORT before? (too lazy to look)

[Chariot of Fire]

Maybe even better than being the first to beat THOTA.

Has anyone beat KORT before? (too lazy to look)

Yeah, we did. 32-28 remember? Doh!

[niMic]

Maybe even better than being the first to beat THOTA.

Has anyone beat KORT before? (too lazy to look)

Well, you guys sans CoF

Other than that, not in proper challenges, as far as I can remember. I think G1 came closest, 15-15. Ironically our very first challenge.

[angola]

We beat KORT 12-7 in the CLA3 semifinals, though that was obviously not a ton of games.

[hyposquasher]

We beat KORT 12-7 in the CLA3 semifinals, though that was obviously not a ton of games.

The CL4 final was very close as well, although still a KORT win. 22-19 KORT I believe.

[Foxglove]

Maybe even better than being the first to beat THOTA.

Has anyone beat KORT before? (too lazy to look)

Yeah, we did. 32-28 remember?* Doh!

* Too bad we didn't follow the rules of the tournament!

[Dako]

Maybe even better than being the first to beat THOTA.

Has anyone beat KORT before? (too lazy to look)

Yeah, we did. 32-28 remember?* Doh!

* Too bad we didn't follow the rules of the tournament!

[Big Whiskey]

People keep talking about that 3 card set in Malta, but nobody is mentioning how I missed killing Big Whiskey with 73% odds. Luck swings both ways.

People?

[#1_stunna]

Hey Folks!

[merch313]

People keep talking about that 3 card set in Malta, but nobody is mentioning how I missed killing Big Whiskey with 73% odds. Luck swings both ways.

People?

Person? LOL

[freakns]

People keep talking about that 3 card set in Malta, but nobody is mentioning how I missed killing Big Whiskey with 73% odds. Luck swings both ways.

People?

ajm pipl! (this is how you would wrote "I'm people" in Serbian... match that!)

im bored... bring up the girls!



not the ones i have for Josko, the other ones!!!



those are for COF god damn it... the ones for me!!!



ffs, not bruce girlfriend... the one im having hidden in the draw



NOW WE TALKING!

[josko.ri]

People keep talking about that 3 card set in Malta, but nobody is mentioning how I missed killing Big Whiskey with 73% odds. Luck swings both ways.

People?

Person? LOL

He deleted his wall posts so nothing can be proved (why is it weird that he accused Moonchild for doing the same several posts ago ), but you may just visit comic boy's wall and read how it is publicly criticized KORT's gameplay on place that everyone can see by person who was giving me lessons about (not) speaking about opponents' bad gameplay in public place. Hilarious

[freakns]

so you guys really visit each other walls to catch something that can be used in senseless argument on some internet forum? holly crap, when do you find time to do what normal men do on internet, ie watch porn?

[Big Whiskey]

so you guys really visit each other walls to catch something that can be used in senseless argument on some internet forum? holly crap, when do you find time to do what normal men do on internet, ie watch porn?

+1

[grifftron]

The point being......

All of those bad feelings to come back up to flame up this thread and make it a good read for me

Asshole.

Ah thanks. And now those old feelings of "has KORT ever been beat before" are coming up again. Ahhh so fresh, so nice. And the wall checks are starting to happen, just like sweet nothings in my ear. <3

[Chariot of Fire]

People keep talking about that 3 card set in Malta, but nobody is mentioning how I missed killing Big Whiskey with 73% odds. Luck swings both ways.

People?

Person? LOL

He deleted his wall posts so nothing can be proved (why is it weird that he accused Moonchild for doing the same several posts ago ), but you may just visit comic boy's wall and read how it is publicly criticized KORT's gameplay on place that everyone can see by person who was giving me lessons about (not) speaking about opponents' bad gameplay in public place. Hilarious

My God you haven't a clue have you.

1. How does someone "accuse" someone of deleting wall posts? It was just an observation, not an accusation. It really sounds pathetic ("He accused Moonchild....."). Moon can do what the f**k he likes with his wall posts, it doesn't bother me, e.g. he can delete embarrassing posts made by you I can also delete wall posts that embarrass you

2. You failed to grasp the point as usual. What I inferred to you the other day is that you speak ill of people - nothing to do with their gameplay. That's not a pleasant trait. I don't speak ill of you, even though you probably deserve it and might be a little bit ********. Talking about stupid moves in a game has nothing to do with the character of the person/people who played that turn. Get it?

******

[josko.ri]

People keep talking about that 3 card set in Malta, but nobody is mentioning how I missed killing Big Whiskey with 73% odds. Luck swings both ways.

People?

Person? LOL

He deleted his wall posts so nothing can be proved (why is it weird that he accused Moonchild for doing the same several posts ago ), but you may just visit comic boy's wall and read how it is publicly criticized KORT's gameplay on place that everyone can see by person who was giving me lessons about (not) speaking about opponents' bad gameplay in public place. Hilarious

My God you haven't a clue have you.

1. How does someone "accuse" someone of deleting wall posts? It was just an observation, not an accusation. It really sounds pathetic ("He accused Moonchild....."). Moon can do what the f**k he likes with his wall posts, it doesn't bother me, e.g. he can delete embarrassing posts made by you I can also delete wall posts that embarrass you

2. You failed to grasp the point as usual. What I inferred to you the other day is that you speak ill of people - nothing to do with their gameplay. That's not a pleasant trait. I don't speak ill of you, even though you probably deserve it and might be a little bit ********. Talking about stupid moves in a game has nothing to do with the character of the person/people who played that turn. Get it?

******

1. Since you ask "how" does someone accuse someone of deleting wall posts, here is quote to show how: CoF wrote "There was no reason for Moonchild to go to all the trouble of deleting all his wall posts other than to remove all traces of your conversations.". For me it is very funny how you point fingers in others for doing something bad, and then you do exactly the same thing on the same or even bigger level (bigger because he left several pots and you left none on the wall, and because you were abusing account sitting system twice and in much bigger domain while your point fingering was done towards me, who abused it once, and it was precedent before rules were clearly declared).

2a. You pointed fingers in my sitting for Moon when he was last online with 23 hours left on timer (my only sitting in this war btw), and then you sit for Dako in Ardennes, and Dako was playing the whole that day turns in other games, commented in this thread twice, 5 and 7 hours before the turn was to expire. In addition, I think he did not have Moderator privileges removed when you sat, which gives me another suspicion that I am not sure of answer, is it allowed to share Moderator's password (excluding absence time) with non-moderator user? It is not my style to ask you sitting questions in public forum, but since you think it is perfectly ok judging by this post http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 0#p4068249 then let it be so.
Just to further explain, I personally do not mind about sitting, if you ask me you can play every single turn for TOFU members, what I like is challenge, if TOFU will provide better challenge by you playing all 60 games, in my opinion like person who likes top class challenge that is perfectly ok (although I think others from KORT would disagree). But what I mind is point fingering into me, and in the same time you are doing exactly the same things, just on more proficient level. So this is reply regarding your argument of "character of person/people"

2b. I was referring to this post when I said you was giving me lessons how it is bad to speak in public place about opponents' bad gameplay. http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 0#p2758892
CoF said "I tell you what people don't like to speak about (at least people from TOFU).....and that is to speak of flaws in another's gameplay in a public thread."
And now (surprisingly) you come to speak of bad moves from opponents in public place? Hmm, It reminds me on some known point fingering system

[Chariot of Fire]

1. You still talk nonsense. That's like some one accusing me of brushing my teeth this morning. Yeah it's true, I did brush my teeth. So what? And so what if I emptied my wall? There was nothing embarrassing on it.

2. Your sitting for Moon has gone on for 4 years. I know it, most of the clan world knows it.
i. You went to Japan last year.
ii. Moon then conveniently 'loses internet' from 5pm Friday to 9am Monday from Sept-Dec (4 months) so you covered all those turns (you had to come up with 'lost internet' excuse because you were no longer in Croatia and your sitting would be noticed.
iii. Moon conveniently gets his internet back after a C&A report is filed and new sitting rules are introduced.
iv. Moon's account is accessed with an anonymous proxy. This is looked into
v. Moon turns freemium
What an amazing string of coincidences!

3. If I covered for Dako in Ardennes it was because there were 7 minutes left on the clock. So what is your point?

4. I don't speak ill in public threads, you do. I posted on Comic's wall. How is posting on a clan mate's wall a public statement? And where have I spoken ill of anyone, even on a wall? Are you saying I posted on my own wall and deleted them

[Arama86n]

I have repeatedly seen insinuations from Kort members (and others) that TOFU is a one man show, and it would seem that some people truly beleive CoF runs around directing games he's not in. This is just so funny to me that my English fails me. I can't convey my amusement in words.

I feel rather sorry for KoRT if their clan is anything like a few of their members seem to beleive TOFU is.
Shit, ever heard of cachejob, Big Whiskey, Master Fenrir, Seulessliathan, Dako, Comic Boy, Iron Maid etc etc...
The thought of these gentlemen needing instruction is... again at a loss for words.

My point being is that The Odd Fellows Union has a handful of all-stars, not just one. And in general if your in the clan it's because the clan feels they can throw you against anyone, anywhere and expect you to prevail.
I'll happily meet Josko, or anyone for that matter with LMS at my side, or catnipdreams or any of the 21 members of my clan. And if I'm in a clan-war game it's because I've played that map before, and thus I'd have no reason to ask anyone outside the game how to play my turn. I never have, and never will.

No matter what the level of competition, I think one has to draw the line somewhere, and I can happily inform you all that TOFU draws the line there. We plan our turns with the team-mates inside the actual game. Sure, in Random League games people have asked for advice once or twice, but I'm talking about 99% of the turns taken.

I write this because I've played online games before. I know what it's like being in a low ranked clan and looking up, one speculates, and sometimes the imagination runs a little wild, as it obviously has here. Because some of the assumptions that are made are just laughable. So here's a little reality check for those of you who don't know, and for those of you that should know better

(this ofc applies to the ludicrous thought that CoF would sit a turn here (for Dako now apparently ) or there for "strategic" reasons too, but I won't got into that because to do so would mean venting some personal thoughts about why Josko believes that, and I can't do so without being rude.)

[josko.ri]

1. You still talk nonsense. That's like some one accusing me of brushing my teeth this morning. Yeah it's true, I did brush my teeth. So what? And so what if I emptied my wall? There was nothing embarrassing on it.

2. Your sitting for Moon has gone on for 4 years. I know it, most of the clan world knows it.
i. You went to Japan last year.
ii. Moon then conveniently 'loses internet' from 5pm Friday to 9am Monday from Sept-Dec (4 months) so you covered all those turns (you had to come up with 'lost internet' excuse because you were no longer in Croatia and your sitting would be noticed.
iii. Moon conveniently gets his internet back after a C&A report is filed and new sitting rules are introduced.
iv. Moon's account is accessed with an anonymous proxy. This is looked into
v. Moon turns freemium
What an amazing string of coincidences!

3. If I covered for Dako in Ardennes it was because there were 7 minutes left on the clock. So what is your point?

4. I don't speak ill in public threads, you do. I posted on Comic's wall. How is posting on a clan mate's wall a public statement? And where have I spoken ill of anyone, even on a wall? Are you saying I posted on my own wall and deleted them

1. I really have no problem by your deleting wall post. However, problem is in you because you pointed fingers in Moon before for doing so, and then you did the same. so ask yourself what was embarrassing in it when you had pointed it out.

2. From point 2, only truth is that I went to Japan last year. I am however less than 4 years on CC, so your argument cannot be true even if I sit the whole time which is not true. Most of clan world "knows" it because of your constant point fingering towards me, so it is more publicly made infame about our sitting than real deal.
ii) It is not that I had to come with excuse, it was true. There are you who have to come with multiple excuses so my dear I know that from your eyes it sounds like everyone are finding excuses like you do. But no, some people are just honest, they do not need fake excuses
iii) He got smartphone with internet. Planning to buy smartphone in Croatia is not something that someone are doing just because of CC, it is more long time investment
iv) That was looked into and already cleared. Do you know better than multihunters about his connectivity channels?
v) Moon is now premium, no? isn't it normal that everyone sometimes turn to freemium before buying new premium? You not only speak nonsense, but also untruths. How fake arguments lol

3. My point is that he was online before that day, played other turns, commented in this thread, and had not removed moderator privileges, but he rather left turn for you to sit. Isn't that the same doing for what you were pointed fingers to me?

4. You speak ill in public thread, for example every lie and nonsense from last post is speaking ill. I speak facts, and you understand it to be ill. Facts are facts, it is not illness. If you had 6-12 score vs PACK, that is fact which is true. Whatever you say about me which is proven true statement, I will not mind about that. But there are you who speak untruth and ill about me, check just last post and you will see how many untruths you say. But you are great public actor, so it is not surprise that because of your great public acting skills you made others to perceive me like bad person. If I am third side, probably I would also be convinced by your acting rather than by my arguments. Wall of one player is equally public place like public forum, everyone can easy access and see that. It is even easier than coming to forum, because coming to someone's wall requires one mouse click, and coming to some forum thread requires 2 or more mouse clicks.

[Dako]

2a. You pointed fingers in my sitting for Moon when he was last online with 23 hours left on timer (my only sitting in this war btw), and then you sit for Dako in Ardennes, and Dako was playing the whole that day turns in other games, commented in this thread twice, 5 and 7 hours before the turn was to expire. In addition, I think he did not have Moderator privileges removed when you sat, which gives me another suspicion that I am not sure of answer, is it allowed to share Moderator's password (excluding absence time) with non-moderator user? It is not my style to ask you sitting questions in public forum, but since you think it is perfectly ok judging by this post http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 0#p4068249 then let it be so.

If you have problems with CoF playing my turn when I had mod colors on please take it to my superior (rdsrds2120) and don't discuss it here. The sitting was legitimate under new sitting rules.

[josko.ri]

2a. You pointed fingers in my sitting for Moon when he was last online with 23 hours left on timer (my only sitting in this war btw), and then you sit for Dako in Ardennes, and Dako was playing the whole that day turns in other games, commented in this thread twice, 5 and 7 hours before the turn was to expire. In addition, I think he did not have Moderator privileges removed when you sat, which gives me another suspicion that I am not sure of answer, is it allowed to share Moderator's password (excluding absence time) with non-moderator user? It is not my style to ask you sitting questions in public forum, but since you think it is perfectly ok judging by this post http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 0#p4068249 then let it be so.

If you have problems with CoF playing my turn when I had mod colors on please take it to my superior (rdsrds2120) and don't discuss it here. The sitting was legitimate under new sitting rules.

I do not have problems with that, so repeating my statement when I said that I do not have problems: "Just to further explain, I personally do not mind about sitting, if you ask me you can play every single turn for TOFU members, what I like is challenge, if TOFU will provide better challenge by you playing all 60 games, in my opinion like person who likes top class challenge that is perfectly ok. "

My problem is not that sitting, problem is fact that CoF pointed fingers to me that I am doing it for Moon, and then he did worse thing for you. If your advice is not to speak about sitting in public forum, maybe you should tell to CoF that advice before he had posted this post: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 0#p4068127
If he can freely throw away his suspects about our abuse in this forum, why should not I also? The accusing game started from his side, and it was normal, but this is not normal?

And thanks for the constructive advice, I will ask your superior about the case.

[Big Whiskey]

josko,just a few things pal.u haven't been on CC for a whole 4 years but I have(6+).I can honestly say I have never seen 1 player sit for another(Moon) so many times in that span.i will even go as far to say that u have probably taken more turns for another player(clan games) more than any other in that time frame.is there a way to prove it,i wish there was.u also just said,u don't mind "sitting", well,no kidding.u and I are both fans of the unlimited setting and we both know for a fact that games can be won and lost in the 1st rd of turns.so,if u like a tough challenge so much then why have u taken so many of those 1st turns for Moon or whoever?I am not just speaking of the present but the past also.

BW