Record Number of Abortions AND Governmental Funding

[AAFitz]

LOL @ trying to argue with Jay, better off trying to argue with Hapsmo; at least he gets all crazy aggro and stuff...

I'm not trying to argue. I'm trying to educate.

They told me I couldn't build a castle on a swamp, but I did, and it sank. So I built another castle on a swamp, and it sank too, but I built a third castle, and there it is.

I figure I'm on castle twelve right now, and they are all sunk with no result but someday...someday I swear, reality will sink in, even if only on a subconscious level....

Its hard to get someone to drink ocean water, but if you keep them swimming in an ocean of it all day long, they are bound to swallow some, if even accidentally.

[2dimes]

I believe he was more referring to...

I didn't read it. I just pasted it into the box and then brought back the score.

[AAFitz]

I believe he was more referring to...

I didn't read it. I just pasted it into the box and then brought back the score.

I stumbled on that thread after. Its so goddamn awesome that the post he wrote scored lower.

Thanks for that.

[2dimes]

Don't thank me, I didn't write it.

I wasn't trying to get him or I would have browsed for one I thought would do worse.

[jay_a2j]

I stumbled on that thread after. Its so goddamn awesome that the post he wrote scored lower.

Thanks for that.

Readable Score: 67 (The higher the score the easier the article is to read!)
Grade Level: 4


Oops, getting lower.....

[patches70]

I stumbled on that thread after. Its so goddamn awesome that the post he wrote scored lower.

Thanks for that.

Readable Score: 67 (The higher the score the easier the article is to read!)
Grade Level: 4


Oops, getting lower.....

Fourth graders write like that?

I think there is something screwy about this ratings site.....

[jay_a2j]

Fourth graders write like that?

Well, except for the blasphemy part.

[patches70]

Fourth graders write like that?

Well, except for the blasphemy part.

Heh heh, yeah, I suppose that is what I was referring to.

As you were, carry on with...whatever this all is. Have fun everyone! Abortion, what a great subject to have an interwebz debate about. I sure some resolution will come of it.....

[Johnny Rockets]

Taxpayers should fund abortions.
You want to pay for the welfare or incarceration of a citizen that was brought up in a home that did not provide the child with a decent education or moral foundation? One that fast tracked him towards a life of poverty, ignorance, and one that gravitates towards criminal behaviour?

They should be handing out free abortion gift certificates like candy on Christmas. It reduces crime and poverty down the road, and increases the overall brain pool of your citizenry while reducing demand on services and law enforcement.


JRock

You are assuming that children who are aborted are those likely to have a poor education, poor moral foundation, live a life of povery, ignorance and crime?

I doubt very highly he is assuming that at all. However, its very likely that a high proportion would.

I'm assuming that those who choose to have abortions do not want the responsibility of raising a child and would not be able to raise that child as well as a person or persons who wanted to procreate.
Those reasons may be age, lack of financial ability, lack of will, or lack of mental or physical stability. Why bring a child up in less than a satisfactory environment? There's no shortage of humans after all.

And to all of those who think that abortion would become a for of preferred birth control, give your head a shake.
Do you know anyone first hand that has ever had one? It's an inconvenient, physically and emotionally painful experience. Repetitive abortions cause uterine scarring and hinder future pregnancies. I have a hard time seeing it becoming a fashionable way to deal with personal contraception.

Less unwanted children = a better raised generation. I'm not debating the moral or religious element, I'm just saying that the funding is money well spent and should be increased.

Jrock

[AAFitz]

I stumbled on that thread after. Its so goddamn awesome that the post he wrote scored lower.

Thanks for that.

Readable Score: 67 (The higher the score the easier the article is to read!)
Grade Level: 4


Oops, getting lower.....

You'd have to be a goddamn moron to even check that one.

Oops, getting accurate....

You already lost this battle anyways, checking mine, and laughing when your post that I responded to scored lower.

I don't blame ya for tryin....but...you lost already, as you lose every battle, except in your head.

[qwertylpc]

Just stumbled on this, but abortions are regulated to the first trimester. At this point, there is no feeling, or thinking, basically, it is a bundle of cells. Is scratching yourself murder, no. Neither is abortion.

If you want to limit abortions teach people about condom use, not promote Viagra.

Would you rather that we let them die of "exposure" like they did hundreds of years ago instead when the baby can think and feel?

[Night Strike]

Just stumbled on this, but abortions are regulated to the first trimester. At this point, there is no feeling, or thinking, basically, it is a bundle of cells. Is scratching yourself murder, no. Neither is abortion.

But it's not a bundle of YOUR cells.

[Metsfanmax]

Just stumbled on this, but abortions are regulated to the first trimester. At this point, there is no feeling, or thinking, basically, it is a bundle of cells. Is scratching yourself murder, no. Neither is abortion.

But it's not a bundle of YOUR cells.

The umbilical cord begs to differ.

[BigBallinStalin]

Just stumbled on this, but abortions are regulated to the first trimester. At this point, there is no feeling, or thinking, basically, it is a bundle of cells. Is scratching yourself murder, no. Neither is abortion.

But it's not a bundle of YOUR cells.

The umbilical cord begs to differ.

A property rights dispute!

[AAFitz]

Just stumbled on this, but abortions are regulated to the first trimester. At this point, there is no feeling, or thinking, basically, it is a bundle of cells. Is scratching yourself murder, no. Neither is abortion.

But it's not a bundle of YOUR cells.

There are plenty of wanted, starving suffering children in the world today. If you actually had a soul and gave a damn, you'd actually spend more time trying to help them, not introduce unwanted ones....but be warned....that costs money....

By all means set up a system where the kids have a fair shot of a real life, and Ill believe you give two shits, but given you complain about such programs on a basic level, Ill continue to see it as the bullshit self-righteous nonsense as always.

I think its why conservatives jump on this so easy and so hard. It costs nothing, and they can pretend they are doing "Gods" work until nine months later, when they just hem and haw about how entitled those infants think they are.

[Gillipig]

If you're seriously considering having an abortion, you should have one.

[qwertylpc]

Just stumbled on this, but abortions are regulated to the first trimester. At this point, there is no feeling, or thinking, basically, it is a bundle of cells. Is scratching yourself murder, no. Neither is abortion.

But it's not a bundle of YOUR cells.

There are plenty of wanted, starving suffering children in the world today. If you actually had a soul and gave a damn, you'd actually spend more time trying to help them, not introduce unwanted ones....but be warned....that costs money....

By all means set up a system where the kids have a fair shot of a real life, and Ill believe you give two shits, but given you complain about such programs on a basic level, Ill continue to see it as the bullshit self-righteous nonsense as always.

I think its why conservatives jump on this so easy and so hard. It costs nothing, and they can pretend they are doing "Gods" work until nine months later, when they just hem and haw about how entitled those infants think they are.

Being pro-life means you support life at all times, as Fitz said, take care of the poor and the needy already on this Earth. It is rare for so called "pro-life" people who hate abortions but don't mind cutting social safety nets to keep people from getting help. One notable exception was Mother Theresa. Now, if you acted like her, then I would respectfully disagree, but until then, it is as Fitz said completely hypocritical.

[thegreekdog]

Just stumbled on this, but abortions are regulated to the first trimester. At this point, there is no feeling, or thinking, basically, it is a bundle of cells. Is scratching yourself murder, no. Neither is abortion.

But it's not a bundle of YOUR cells.

There are plenty of wanted, starving suffering children in the world today. If you actually had a soul and gave a damn, you'd actually spend more time trying to help them, not introduce unwanted ones....but be warned....that costs money....

By all means set up a system where the kids have a fair shot of a real life, and Ill believe you give two shits, but given you complain about such programs on a basic level, Ill continue to see it as the bullshit self-righteous nonsense as always.

I think its why conservatives jump on this so easy and so hard. It costs nothing, and they can pretend they are doing "Gods" work until nine months later, when they just hem and haw about how entitled those infants think they are.

Being pro-life means you support life at all times, as Fitz said, take care of the poor and the needy already on this Earth. It is rare for so called "pro-life" people who hate abortions but don't mind cutting social safety nets to keep people from getting help. One notable exception was Mother Theresa. Now, if you acted like her, then I would respectfully disagree, but until then, it is as Fitz said completely hypocritical.

Just want to jump in for a second - government-provided assistance is different than just assistance. I never understood why people believe the broad brush stroke argument in which conservative are protrayed: "Conservatives don't want to take care of your children." It should be "Conservatives don't want the government to take care of your children."

[AndyDufresne]

Just want to jump in for a second - government-provided assistance is different than just assistance. I never understood why people believe the broad brush stroke argument in which conservative are protrayed: "Conservatives don't want to take care of your children." It should be "Conservatives don't want the government to take care of your children."

Unfortunately in some communities, the government is needed to supplement care from the community, so to use some TGD's words, you could "arguably" say the broad brush stroke has some merits.


--Andy

[thegreekdog]

Just want to jump in for a second - government-provided assistance is different than just assistance. I never understood why people believe the broad brush stroke argument in which conservative are protrayed: "Conservatives don't want to take care of your children." It should be "Conservatives don't want the government to take care of your children."

Unfortunately in some communities, the government is needed to supplement care from the community, so to use some TGD's words, you could "arguably" say the broad brush stroke has some merits.


--Andy

I didn't know "supplement" was defined as "taking complete control over something."

[qwertylpc]

Just want to jump in for a second - government-provided assistance is different than just assistance. I never understood why people believe the broad brush stroke argument in which conservative are protrayed: "Conservatives don't want to take care of your children." It should be "Conservatives don't want the government to take care of your children."

Unfortunately in some communities, the government is needed to supplement care from the community, so to use some TGD's words, you could "arguably" say the broad brush stroke has some merits.


--Andy

I didn't know "supplement" was defined as "taking complete control over something."

In what way has the government taken control, by providing a standard currency, or paying for an army?

[thegreekdog]

Just want to jump in for a second - government-provided assistance is different than just assistance. I never understood why people believe the broad brush stroke argument in which conservative are protrayed: "Conservatives don't want to take care of your children." It should be "Conservatives don't want the government to take care of your children."

Unfortunately in some communities, the government is needed to supplement care from the community, so to use some TGD's words, you could "arguably" say the broad brush stroke has some merits.


--Andy

I didn't know "supplement" was defined as "taking complete control over something."

In what way has the government taken control, by providing a standard currency, or paying for an army?

Neither.

[tzor]

You'd have to be a goddamn moron to even check that one.

You realize that there is no correlation whatsoever between a "readability" score and information content. A post that contains a plethora of technical jargon, along with complex sentence structure, could, in fact, have zero fact content at all and consist of nothing but bald face lies, inaccuracies and misstatements. But the diatribe would have all the professorial trappings of something highly intellectual.

Conversely, one of the hardest things for anyone with actual knowledge to do is to explain a concept in straight forward simple terms; an explanation that would, by definition score high on "readability" and be the fastest way for the reader to understand the subject. In fact, the process actually helps the person who is knowledgeable of the subject to gain greater understanding of the subject through the process of explanation.

(The above two paragraphs have a Flesh reading ease of 41.8 and a Flesh-Kincaid grade level of 12.9)

But I really could have said ...

Dude, KISS Rocks!


And it would have been just as effective.

[tzor]

Just stumbled on this, but abortions are regulated to the first trimester. At this point, there is no feeling, or thinking, basically, it is a bundle of cells. Is scratching yourself murder, no. Neither is abortion.

First of all the notion that abortions are regulated to the first trimester is a total myth. Source for stats/Pregnancy calender

In 2009, 7% of all abortions were performed at 14-20 weeks' gestation; 1.3% were performed at ≥21 weeks' gestation (CDC).

For first Trimester:

2.8% at 13 Weeks ... "Tiny bones are beginning to form in her arms and legs, the intestines are beginning to move from the umbilical cord to the abdomen, and the vocal cords are well under construction (the first step toward saying, "I love you, Mommy!"). And because she can move her arms and legs in a jerky fashion, she may be able to get her thumb into her mouth."

3.9% at 12 Weeks ... "Most of his systems are in place, though there's still plenty of maturing to do. For one thing, his fetal digestive system is beginning to practice contraction movements necessary for eating, and his bone marrow is busy making white blood cells — weapons against germs once he's out of your safe haven."

5.1% at 11 Weeks ... "She has distinct human characteristics by now, with hands and feet in front of her body, with ears nearly in their final shape, open nasal passages on the tip of her tiny nose, a tongue and palate in the mouth, and visible nipples. What else makes her look human? Those hands and feet have individual fingers and toes."

6.6% at 10 Weeks ... "Your baby (now the size of a prune) has small indentations on his legs (soon to be knees and ankles!), and his tiny arms even have elbows that bend (how is that for magical?). Inside that little mouth, tiny buds of baby teeth are forming under the gums. His stomach and kidneys are kicking into gear, producing digestive juices and urine, and if it's a boy, his testes are making testosterone (how manly!)."

I can go on but as you can see a significant number of abortions do not take place against a "blob of cells." This is the most disgusting description of a human being I have ever seen (next to the old Star Trek description of "bags of mostly water").

[Metsfanmax]

I can go on but as you can see a significant number of abortions do not take place against a "blob of cells." This is the most disgusting description of a human being I have ever seen (next to the old Star Trek description of "bags of mostly water").

Adult human beings are blobs of cells too. The blob just has a little more structure.