Well why not have like 3 votes on a player and then a mafia double voter cant lynch anyone but its enough to put pressure without a mafia doublevoter having power to switch the votes last second? (since majority of votes lynches anyhow)?
This is mafia's dream. They are probably submarining while we all debate this 3 vote rule. How about this, those who think we should stop at L-3 do so, and those who vote past that wont be scummy, but they will be noted. Now, as of the last vote count, pancakemix was at L-3 and there were no unvotes that I saw when I went through the posts afterwards, so unless pancake mix wants to claim right now, I am stating right now that I WILL vote you pancake, and legitimately put you at L-2, or you can claim and stay out of the red zone that everyone else is concerned about. Now I will of course acknowledge that one of the votes on you is an anon vote, but wouldnt you like to stay away from a possible speed lynch at the expense of a couple post of you saying "nah not gonna claim" then me putting you at L-2?
Kanin Usagi wrote:Why would I claim unless I have actual votes on me? That's my thinking anyways. If you don't pressure with something substantial, then there is no point. There's no guarantee that if you say "FOS-vote Player" that you'll be on again before deadline to make an actual vote. It doesn't matter if someone has twenty FOS-votes, because once deadline hits then only lynches matter. As far as I'm concerned, the best pressure is actual votes. Just my thoughts on the matter.
if you dont claim, FOS votes will turn into real votes. if you are scummy and we decide to lynch, then we will simply change to a real vote. simple.
and yes, nos, i had thought about that, but we could do it ourselves, if it gets us talking.
doom, it was thanksgiving. activity should pick up monday. no need to cut the deadline.
Vote Vodean. Thou shalt take every deadline extension that is offered. Most importantly when everybody is debating on how to lynch people effectively. The fact you say no thanks to an extension makes you scummy in itself and warrants a vote from me.
Kanin Usagi wrote:Why would I claim unless I have actual votes on me? That's my thinking anyways. If you don't pressure with something substantial, then there is no point. There's no guarantee that if you say "FOS-vote Player" that you'll be on again before deadline to make an actual vote. It doesn't matter if someone has twenty FOS-votes, because once deadline hits then only lynches matter. As far as I'm concerned, the best pressure is actual votes. Just my thoughts on the matter.
if you dont claim, FOS votes will turn into real votes. if you are scummy and we decide to lynch, then we will simply change to a real vote. simple.
and yes, nos, i had thought about that, but we could do it ourselves, if it gets us talking.
doom, it was thanksgiving. activity should pick up monday. no need to cut the deadline.
Vote Vodean. Thou shalt take every deadline extension that is offered. Most importantly when everybody is debating on how to lynch people effectively. The fact you say no thanks to an extension makes you scummy in itself and warrants a vote from me.
i was in a hurry when i made that post and thought doom had said he would cut the deadline (which is why i said he SHOULDNT). i was trying to get the deadline extended. sorry.
<NoSurvivors› then vote chuck for being an info whore
so pcm is getting "lyched" so far, and the anon vote on him can be switched to anyone with 2 votes quite simply and no one will know. if the deadline is today and pcm is scum, he will not claim and wait for his buddy to switch at the last moment (assuming the double vote is from mafia).
betiko wrote:so pcm is getting "lyched" so far, and the anon vote on him can be switched to anyone with 2 votes quite simply and no one will know. if the deadline is today and pcm is scum, he will not claim and wait for his buddy to switch at the last moment (assuming the double vote is from mafia).
Looks like he's in trouble 'cos if he's town and the scum doublevoter, switches it onto another town. He looks like scum. Might as well claim now pcm, you're stuck between a rock and hard place.
War doesn't determine who's right; it determines who's left.
betiko wrote:so pcm is getting "lyched" so far, and the anon vote on him can be switched to anyone with 2 votes quite simply and no one will know. if the deadline is today and pcm is scum, he will not claim and wait for his buddy to switch at the last moment (assuming the double vote is from mafia).
Looks like he's in trouble 'cos if he's town and the scum doublevoter, switches it onto another town. He looks like scum. Might as well claim now pcm, you're stuck between a rock and hard place.
War doesn't determine who's right; it determines who's left.
betiko wrote:so pcm is getting "lyched" so far, and the anon vote on him can be switched to anyone with 2 votes quite simply and no one will know. if the deadline is today and pcm is scum, he will not claim and wait for his buddy to switch at the last moment (assuming the double vote is from mafia).
Looks like he's in trouble 'cos if he's town and the scum doublevoter, switches it onto another town. He looks like scum. Might as well claim now pcm, you're stuck between a rock and hard place.
War doesn't determine who's right; it determines who's left.
I might switch my vote to pcm later on just to preserve myself if he doesn't show up and claim, I'm warning. I can get lynched by the anon with that configuration.
Ok, for real I am sending prods. I am just sending a massprod out with 24 hours on the deadline. I am sorry for extending this day again, I should have sent out prods earlier.
Vote Count
NoSurvivors (1) - new guy1
soundman (2) - kanin usagi, betiko
New guy (1) - jonty
pcm (1) - anon.
Not voting (1) - nendreel, pcm
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline is November 26th.
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Betiko (2) - soundman, anon.
NoSurvivors (1) - new guy1
soundman (2) - kanin usagi, betiko
Iron butterfly (1) - Vodean
New guy (1) - jonty
pancakemix (3) - edocsil, iron butterfly, anon.
vodean (1) - ghostly
Not voting (3) - nendreel, NoSurvivirors, pcm
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is 24hrs from this post.
With 3 not voting, this means that 6 players agree to lynch pcm.
Ok, for real I am sending prods. I am just sending a massprod out with 24 hours on the deadline. I am sorry for extending this day again, I should have sent out prods earlier.
ok cool! we definitely need a little discution, half of the players aren't participating anymore and ending things like this would be a joke...
pcm, I am not familiar with that role, but from what I can read, it's dreally dodgy and dangerous for town.
It can be either a town role or a mafia role.When I think of vote stealing, I think of a dirty politician, which would be on the mafia's side. With the given claims already, I can see where the politician would be a believable claim, but whether it is a mafia politician or a town politician I am not sure of. I will let it roll over in my head a couple times.
OK, I'm going to call bull on this one. Because I'm Town Vote Stealer, and town with two vote stealing roles is OP. I only steal the vote for one day. I need it to become night before I can use my power. So unvote, vote pcm
War doesn't determine who's right; it determines who's left.
bah, let's go for it, it's deadline time and even if it's a town politician this is probably the best town casualty at this point. I don't see much to lose here.
new guy1 wrote:Well, since it is near deadline, and it seems like everyone else is doing it, it has definatly swayed me to put my vote on pmc. Vote pmc
