Psychology Mafia ~ Game Over, Mafia Victory

[lord voldemort]

I'm pretty certain my votes on vodean not you zimmah. Even if it was a joke at the start.
Love you say...

[zimmah]

Vote Count

vodean (4) - campin, DiM, jak111, strike wolf
edocsil (2) - PCM, zimmah
zimmah (3) - Lovo, edocsil, safariguy
campin (2) - /, vodean

With 11 alive, 6 to lynch. Saturday night

besides, i allready claimed. unvote vote lovo

[lord voldemort]

So now you right away vote for me for no reason at all. Except that I forgot my vote that I made at the start of the game. Your not helping yourself even with your claim. I'm not sure if you're new to mafia or really bad :/
And as my vote is on you already. I won't unvote until I'm satisfied there is no counter. Or someone stupidly puts him at -1.

[zimmah]

So now you right away vote for me for no reason at all. Except that I forgot my vote that I made at the start of the game. Your not helping yourself even with your claim. I'm not sure if you're new to mafia or really bad :/
And as my vote is on you already. I won't unvote until I'm satisfied there is no counter. Or someone stupidly puts him at -1.

the reason is because you're stupid. i allready told you your vote was on me, the latest votecount clearly shows it too, you're being overly aggresive, even after i claimed a power role, and you refuse to admit your mistakes. instead, you try to bury me even deeper. that, and i allready fossed you in the post above. in fact, you voted me as a joke, and posted very little thereafter, and you never planned to pull back your vote either. you didn't even post at all during the vodean case, at least not until after you were almost pushed to claim.

[lord voldemort]

I lead the case on you. I have posted plenty in this game....I was always against a mass claim. And instead of vodean. I chose to target you. And I wasn't the only one doing so. I wont apologize for that. You and vodean were advocating for a mass claim day 1. That's fricken scummy. Your vote against me is purely because youre sour about screwing up in the first place. If you're love. Why the f*ck would you be all for a mass role claim????

As for me mistaking my vote. I thought my joke vote went to vodean. It's not something I pay attention to at all. You will find I don't vote hop oo much. I tend to only want to vote once or twice a day

[lord voldemort]

And you call me stupid. Says the guy who claims love (is likely a power role) and gets outed on day 1 by doing something stupid.

[strike wolf]

Let's also try to keep direct insults out of this. I know it can be frustrating at time and it's unfortunately a bit too easy to insult someone (intentionally or unintentionally) in mafia but ultimately we're still supposed to be havign fun in these games.

[zimmah]

I lead the case on you. I have posted plenty in this game....I was always against a mass claim. And instead of vodean. I chose to target you. And I wasn't the only one doing so. I wont apologize for that. You and vodean were advocating for a mass claim day 1. That's fricken scummy. Your vote against me is purely because youre sour about screwing up in the first place. If you're love. Why the f*ck would you be all for a mass role claim????

As for me mistaking my vote. I thought my joke vote went to vodean. It's not something I pay attention to at all. You will find I don't vote hop oo much. I tend to only want to vote once or twice a day

you didn't lead the case on me, edoc did. you had a joke vote on me, and just didn't pull it back.

you're a liar and skimmer. and you're also twisting my words, we have been over this already.

one last time the mass claim support was only to get the game moving, and it was not my intention to ACTUALLY get everyone massclaiming. (besides i was not even the one that thought of it, nor was i the only/major one supporting it)

i already think that you were wrong (with you i mean edoc, /, strike and lovo) by forcing me to claim for something that i am not the only one to blaim for. yes i did make a mistake, but i was not the only one responsible for it, but yet i'm the one who gets the most attention for it. obviously there's something fishy about this case.

[jak111]

Well, unless someone counters him it's a hard emotion to say is not in the game. However, I could do some WIFOM about how love can be bad as well (depending on the character). If his wife left him and all that, he may have sour love which is a bad kind.

However, for me, I'm keeping my vote on the other scummy player of the day. I'll support 2 claims max for day 1, and we've had 2 scummy players. I do believe Vodean was near L2 and then people pulled off there with no information. But for now, that seems to be the spot I'm thinking.

Fastposted.

[zimmah]

And you call me stupid. Says the guy who claims love (is likely a power role) and gets outed on day 1 by doing something stupid.

i was not the only one responsible for it, in fact, i wasn't even the biggest one in that case, i can not help it that a wagon formed on me.

[zimmah]

Let's also try to keep direct insults out of this. I know it can be frustrating at time and it's unfortunately a bit too easy to insult someone (intentionally or unintentionally) in mafia but ultimately we're still supposed to be havign fun in these games.

you know what's fun, that several people make mistakes, some even bigger than me, but 'm always the only one who gets called out on it. and whatever i do, the only thing i can do is claim. because you're all a set of pit bulls, whenever you're on a case you never let go, whatever i come up with to defend myself.

and also you believe i'm a better player than i am, so my mistakes are getting much more attention than they should, but i don't see myself as a good player, so stop acting like i am.

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Gee, chill out, it's day one, even a crappy case is better than no case... (Not really calling it crappy or not, just saying in general) I advise not letting a game bother you, or anything bother you ever really. That's me; cool as a cucumber-mint popsicle.

[zimmah]

The thing is that I'm getting framed with a case that on it self was not weak but I had a good defense and offered much better cases and yet you don't back off even after I claimed. And probably the worst thing is volde making no sense at all with his posts, and not reading what I posted several times, sothis time I made sure he can't miss it. At this point I'm even tempted to just vote myself and let you guys handle it alone. Apperantly you guys don't want to work with me anyway.

[edocsil]

Dude, it's not like you were in any remote danger of getting hung after you claimed. no townie is worth bagging, not when it would surely result in the lynchers death.

I will unvote for love arguably the most certain role to be here in the game.

We have said many times that the bolded bit is not good enough. It is WIFOM, bad play, and has a myriad of problems associated with it. Perhaps that move would have been good as a VT, or even a vengeful townie. (then we would have been in awe as you nuked the scum who hammered you), but not as love, whatever it may be. You were too valuable to be so careless. But it is done now. We will not hang you, not with that claim.

[safariguy5]

I can guess what roles love would be, and while it's possible that it could be anti town, I'm pretty sure it's not.

unvote

The thing is that I'm getting framed with a case that on it self was not weak but I had a good defense and offered much better cases and yet you don't back off even after I claimed. And probably the worst thing is volde making no sense at all with his posts, and not reading what I posted several times, sothis time I made sure he can't miss it. At this point I'm even tempted to just vote myself and let you guys handle it alone. Apperantly you guys don't want to work with me anyway.

Offered much better cases? Which case was that? DiM? Vodean?

And how was your defense good? You know what would have been a good defense? Admitting you made a mistake, making your position clear about whether or not you supported vodean's massclaim, and then suggesting a new lead.

I don't know if it's a pride thing, a victim mentality, or what, but honestly this could have been resolved much earlier had you admitted you waffled on the massclaim idea. Probably wouldn't have led to a claim either.

[vodean]

well considering that zimmah only claimed love, then even if you summed up the case on me and BWed me, i dont think you could expect much more than me. i will however say (since it is inevitable that pressure returns to me) that the speculation about my role was fairly accurate.

[lord voldemort]

unvote

[zimmah]

I can guess what roles love would be, and while it's possible that it could be anti town, I'm pretty sure it's not.

unvote

The thing is that I'm getting framed with a case that on it self was not weak but I had a good defense and offered much better cases and yet you don't back off even after I claimed. And probably the worst thing is volde making no sense at all with his posts, and not reading what I posted several times, sothis time I made sure he can't miss it. At this point I'm even tempted to just vote myself and let you guys handle it alone. Apperantly you guys don't want to work with me anyway.

Offered much better cases? Which case was that? DiM? Vodean?

And how was your defense good? You know what would have been a good defense? Admitting you made a mistake, making your position clear about whether or not you supported vodean's massclaim, and then suggesting a new lead.

I don't know if it's a pride thing, a victim mentality, or what, but honestly this could have been resolved much earlier had you admitted you waffled on the massclaim idea. Probably wouldn't have led to a claim either.

I actually did that but still everyone refused to unvote. This game sucks

[Mr. Squirrel]

Vote Count

vodean (3) - campin, jak111, strike wolf
edocsil (1) - PCM,
zimmah (1) - /
campin (1) - vodean
Lord Voldymort (1) - zimmah

With 11 alive, 6 to lynch. Tomorrow night

At deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched unless a no-lynch is decided.

[edocsil]

Do we hang vodean or do we NL?

[jak111]

Do we hang vodean or do we NL?

Get a claim first?

[DiM]

Do we hang vodean or do we NL?

Get a claim first?

vodean claimed curiosity and zimmah claimed love.

[jak111]

Do we hang vodean or do we NL?

Get a claim first?

vodean claimed curiosity and zimmah claimed love.

Ah. okay, I must have missed the claim. Hmm, I don't know. We could wifom about what the bad roles could be.. but I guess a night full of actions would be needed.

Unvote, Vote No Lynch

I hope someone isn't holding back and letting either of them fake claim through >.<

[DiM]

I hope someone isn't holding back and letting either of them fake claim through >.<

i kinda doubt any townie would pass the chance to uncover a fake claimer. that would be stupid.

[jak111]

I hope someone isn't holding back and letting either of them fake claim through >.<

i kinda doubt any townie would pass the chance to uncover a fake claimer. that would be stupid.

It has happened. One time a townie let a fake claimer last for 3 days and nearly let me get lynched for going after the 'claimed doc' without bothering in saying I was right to go after the fake claimer XD