Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ Endgame, Scum win!

vodean · Post by **vodean** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:36 am

ok so as it now stands it seems like everywhere and/or MS are scum. perhaps the last two. if we lynch one, i think thor might be convinced to vig the other. or does anyone have another case to present?

Djfireside · Post by **Djfireside** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:13 am

Ill check on that.

Djfireside · Post by **Djfireside** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:23 am

Vodean is not lying. One of them is scum.

Djfireside · Post by **Djfireside** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:26 am

UNVOTE

Just in case cause one of those is bad so mine as well determine which to hit

soundman · Post by **soundman** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:14 pm

Djfireside wrote:Vodean is not lying. One of them is scum.

Well in that case I think we should get a claim from Everywhere. I'm more inclined to lynch him over Mr. S just because if Mr. S is telling the truth then that would be bad for town. Vote Everywhere. Let's get a claim.

Djfireside · Post by **Djfireside** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:52 pm

I guess soundman is right everywhere would be a point to start with

Vote Everywhere

vodean · Post by **vodean** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:11 pm

yup. everywhere is definitely safer. but i think i may try to vig MS anyway... unvote vote every

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:42 pm

I do not fear death. What I fear is someone manipulating Thor through busdriving or some other means to kill someone else or not to kill at all.

If you think I am more likely to be scum, then by all means, vote for me. But do not vote for me if you think I am more likely to be town and are banking on the fact that Thor can kill Squirrel.

Unvote vote Mr. Squirrel

chapcrap · Post by **chapcrap** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:53 pm

everywhere116 wrote:I admit that I haven't been as active as I should have been, particularly during Day 1. During that day and for most of Day 2, I had been active in 5 mafia games and modding another. I tried to post when I could here, but I had to focus elsewhere. I had the same problem in Matrix. That shouldn't be a problem anymore.

The case was based solely on inactivity at all.

everywhere116 wrote:As for your assertions that I defended saf, I wasn't defending him. I clearly said that I thought that he was acting scummy. I just disapproved of the reasoning that used the information given in the opening scene as evidence against him, which I though was bullshit (still do), especially after edocsil dispelled the notion that the scene is a reliable source for us to gauge night actions from.

You said he seemed somewhat scummy, but never voted him for that and in fact said that he wasn't scummy enough. Of course you would say it that way if you were trying to cover him. You can't outright say that he's not scummy. That just aligns the two of you too much. And the very next post you said that CLEVER was the only case.

FASTPOSTED a lot because I took 3 hours to finish this message.

chapcrap · Post by **chapcrap** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:57 pm

everywhere, you are at L-1 all of a sudden. That happened really quickly guys... Try and watch that.

I would say that the claim Mr. S has is a pretty great and outstanding scum claim. If we are lynching one to test, I would prefer everywhere because of Mr. S's claim, but I see Mr. S as being a fake claim really. It's just so daunting to try to lynch someone with that claim. Of course, if we did and were wrong, it may be ok because we're probably very far ahead of the mafia right now.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:24 pm

Everywhere, I think you need to claim. Like now.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:51 pm

Very well. I am Freyja, Town Immortal. My power is that after I die I can still vote, but I can no longer talk or communicate in any other way.

Mr. Squirrel · Post by **Mr. Squirrel** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:02 pm

everywhere116 wrote:Very well. I am Freyja, Town Immortal. My power is that after I die I can still vote, but I can no longer talk or communicate in any other way.

So you're saying killing you will have no affect on your current play style.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:08 pm

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:Very well. I am Freyja, Town Immortal. My power is that after I die I can still vote, but I can no longer talk or communicate in any other way.
So you're saying killing you will have no affect on your current play style.

No, it would be a severe loss. Activity would plummet without my numerous and informative posts.

vodean · Post by **vodean** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:10 pm

everywhere116 wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:Very well. I am Freyja, Town Immortal. My power is that after I die I can still vote, but I can no longer talk or communicate in any other way.
So you're saying killing you will have no affect on your current play style.
No, it would be a severe loss. Activity would plummet without my numerous and informative posts.

well even so. if that claim is true, losing you wouldnt significantly hurt town.

Mr. Squirrel · Post by **Mr. Squirrel** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:32 pm

vodean wrote:yup. everywhere is definitely safer. but i think i may try to vig MS anyway... unvote vote every

Didn't you read my plan for lynching me? Having thor vig me will kill him and then lead to two scum NKs. Thats a horrendous idea...
Here, I'll quote it again for you:

If for some reason you decide you want to test my claim anyway, then this is how you should do it: chase down a scum on another player other than me and force them to hammer. At least that way my death will take down the next best lynch as well. If they refuse to hammer (because they are the last scum, most likely) then lynch them instead. My death is gonna screw over the town pretty bad (lose my vote, lose 1 other player, two scum NKs), so if you guys really wanna chase this down you need to do it in the best way possible.

There's no way I can possibly convince you guys not to kill me, but I can at least advise you in the best way to do it without royally screwing yourselves over.

TA1LGUNN3R · Post by **TA1LGUNN3R** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:08 am

vote /. Lynching Squirrel is just a bad idea. We could potentially lose 4 townies pretty much instantly. That would be devastating.

-Tails

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:00 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:vote /. Lynching Squirrel is just a bad idea. We could potentially lose 4 townies pretty much instantly. That would be devastating.

-Tails

What if you didn't believe that Mr. Clever is telling the truth?

vodean · Post by **vodean** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:05 pm

can we get a VC please?

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:20 pm

I'm gonna go ahead and Vote Everywhere.

Reasons:

- It's a 12-player game. More than 3 scum is unlikely, especially if one has an "endgame" power, (which was never explained (but I could wager a guess)).
- Given the above and DJ's lie detection, we're probably on the edge of the truth.
- Considering the potential risks of both claims, everywhere's seems to be the more viable option. If he's lying, good for us. If he's telling the truth, we haven't really lost him (his vote, at any rate). On the other hand, lynch Squirrel holds a claim with high risk of testing and no guarantee we'll come back alive. Better to test this one and see tomorrow.
- The sarcasm dripping from everywhere's most recent post does him no favors.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:22 pm

Well, that's it for me.

Before I lose my powers of speech, I just want to say one thing: You know that busdriver that screwed us up night 1? I would bet dollars to donuts that it's Loki. Makes perfect sense as a trickster god.

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:09 pm

VC

Everywhere ~ (4) PCM, ???, Vodean, DJfireside, (Crap, Sound)
/ ~ (1) Tailgunner
Mr. S ~ (1) Everywhere, (/)

All names in (_) voted in red. If red counted, there would be 5 votes in the last 3 pages for everywhere. As it is he is at l-1 the ??? vote. If the red continues to be an issue I may just drop the green vote clause, it seems to be making a muck of things. At this point, all votes must still be green to be counted.

Well that was a problem. If you know what happened there, please pm me.

/ · Post by / » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:15 pm

Nah, my bad, been really busy lately and kinda flaked out.
Unvote

chapcrap · Post by **chapcrap** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:18 pm

edocsil wrote:VC

Everywhere ~ (4) PCM, ???, Vodean, DJfireside, (Crap, Sound)
/ ~ (1) Tailgunner
Mr. S ~ (1) Everywhere, (/)

All names in (_) voted in red. If red counted, there would be 5 votes in the last 3 pages for everywhere. As it is he is at l-1 the ??? vote. If the red continues to be an issue I may just drop the green vote clause, it seems to be making a muck of things. At this point, all votes must still be green to be counted.

Well that was a problem. If you know what happened there, please pm me.

My vote for everywhere was in red. He should be lynched actually now... I was the first to vote for him, I remember doing it when I made the case.

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 5#p3804341

chapcrap · Post by **chapcrap** » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:21 pm

To add something to the end of the day:

If everywhere is telling the truth, then the vig should just take out Mr. S, IMO. Of course, if there is a busdriver as everywhere suggested, then that throws a wrench. But, I doubt a scum busdriver in a game this size, so the busdriver should be on board with whatever plan we have.

The reason Mr. S should be vigged is because of DJ's result. We can just lynch him tomorrow, but I think it's good to vig Mr. S, because no only does it take out a scum (if everywhere is telling the truth) it can prove DJ's role claim.

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