Skyrim Mafia Endgame: Hail Sithis! (3/18) Skyrim Wins!

[nagerous]

Or, you want the bodyguard dead/roleblocked so you can take out the cop? Lets hear from Something before you start jumping to conclusions but I'll tell you what your claim is a hell of a lot more suspicious than mine.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

sorry guys been busy but i want to claim that im the cop ..ill find my role name in a minute but dont know how much time i have right now

i investigated

xenhu- came up town
new guy- third party
lsu- town

[XenHu]

sorry guys been busy but i want to claim that im the cop ..ill find my role name in a minute but dont know how much time i have right now

i investigated

xenhu- came up town
new guy- third party
lsu- town

Right well, there's Clever's claim. Three results in four nights fits with LSU's statement on who was blocked. So unless the two are in bed with each other(possible, but not likely), they're clear.So, where does that leave us now, exactly? Obviously some of these claims are fake. SG7 still bothers me because of bomb claim. And two VTs also seems kinda odd. Still like Edoc's way of proving claims. Seems like a solid idea to me.

-X

[XenHu]

EBYOP: Although, there's no character name from Clever, which is cause for concern. Being a cop and all.

[shieldgenerator7]

So using the info thus far we have:

1. nagerous (bodyguard)
3. shieldgenerator (bomb) - Not killer according to LSU
7. Clever (cop) - Confirmed according to his and edoc's claim
8. edocsil (backup cop) - Confirmed according to his claim and S7C's
12. LSU Tiger Josh (roleblocker) - Town according to S7C
13. XenHu (VT) - Town according to S7C
15. soundman (VT)
16. crazy (Politician)

I'm guessing we have 1 scum we're looking for, and a non-confirmed VT claim seems the best option. However, I will not vote sound yet until I have nag's night actions. It's rather suspicious that nag won't show his pick, even tho everyone else has and hasn't been modkilled for it.

@Xenhu, or anyone else familiar with Skyrim, is it feasible that Delphine is a bodyguard?
@nag, what were your night actions?

Pancake - Danica Pure-Spring (Skyrim Doctor)
Cowboys - Madena (Skyrim Back-up Doctor)
Leehar - The Dovahkiin (Skyrim JOAT)
and then Nag
nagerous – (Claim Delphine - Skyrim Bodyguard)

I like this speculation but I most point out that there is a cop, back-up cop (according to edoc and S7C), and a thief. So why not a doc, back-up doc, and bodyguard? The JOAT doesn't affect this as it can be investigative AND/OR protective.

If you trust crazy's role to not be a scum role, it's going to be between nag and soundman, and it's looking more like it'll be soundman. But I still want nag to answer my questions.

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-SG7 ( )

[shieldgenerator7]

So from what I understand, edoc can't investigate but gets the investigation result if S7C dies?

[soundman]

And two VTs also seems kinda odd. Still like Edoc's way of proving claims. Seems like a solid idea to me.

-X

How are two VTs more odd than one VT? I'd be more suspicious if there was only one VT.

Pancake - Danica Pure-Spring (Skyrim Doctor)
Cowboys - Madena (Skyrim Back-up Doctor)
Leehar - The Dovahkiin (Skyrim JOAT)
and then Nag
nagerous – (Claim Delphine - Skyrim Bodyguard)

I like this speculation but I most point out that there is a cop, back-up cop (according to edoc and S7C), and a thief. So why not a doc, back-up doc, and bodyguard? The JOAT doesn't affect this as it can be investigative AND/OR protective.

If you trust crazy's role to not be a scum role, it's going to be between nag and soundman, and it's looking more like it'll be soundman. But I still want nag to answer my questions.

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-SG7 ( )

From what I see it either has to be you, Crazy or Nag. Everyone else is pretty much confirmed ('Cept me but I know I'm town, fat lot of good that does me though since none of you know). Either through Night Actions or logic. I can see your logic thought (honestly forgot about the Thief).

[shieldgenerator7]

OUt of me, crazy, and nag, it would have to be crazy, as his role seems to be the most likely to be scum-oriented.
but being a VT you are a good lynch target. LSU confirms I am not the killer because he roleblocked me last night and the kill still happened. So why do you still think it's me?

[soundman]

OUt of me, crazy, and nag, it would have to be crazy, as his role seems to be the most likely to be scum-oriented.
but being a VT you are a good lynch target. LSU confirms I am not the killer because he roleblocked me last night and the kill still happened. So why do you still think it's me?

You are correct. Ok let me just organize my thoughts.

There are eight of us left. Probably only one Thalmor agent left.

Pretty much cleared:
Clever – (Claim ?, Cop)
SG7 (Rep. Dazza) – (Claim Jorgen, Skyrim Bomb)
Edocsil – (Claim Legate Rikke, Imperial Back-up Cop)
LSU Tiger Josh – (Claim Tolfdir, College of Winterhold Roleblocker)
XenHu – (Claim Hadvar, Imperial Vanilla Townie)

Not cleared:
nagerous – (Claim Delphine - Skyrim Bodyguard)
Soundman - Lucan Valerius (Skyrim Vanilla Townie)
Crazy – (Claim Jarl Maven Black-Briar, Skyrim Politician)

I know I'm town, there is a logical chance that Nag is a Bodyguard. That leaves Crazy. I propose we lynch Crazy. Best case he's the last Thalmor. Worst case town's down to six tomorrow but have more info from the night.

Unvote Vote Crazy

[edocsil]

OUt of me, crazy, and nag, it would have to be crazy, as his role seems to be the most likely to be scum-oriented.
but being a VT you are a good lynch target. LSU confirms I am not the killer because he roleblocked me last night and the kill still happened. So why do you still think it's me?

You are correct. Ok let me just organize my thoughts.

There are eight of us left. Probably only one Thalmor agent left.

Pretty much cleared:
Clever – (Claim ?, Cop)
SG7 (Rep. Dazza) – (Claim Jorgen, Skyrim Bomb)
Edocsil – (Claim Legate Rikke, Imperial Back-up Cop)
LSU Tiger Josh – (Claim Tolfdir, College of Winterhold Roleblocker)
XenHu – (Claim Hadvar, Imperial Vanilla Townie)

Not cleared:
nagerous – (Claim Delphine - Skyrim Bodyguard)
Soundman - Lucan Valerius (Skyrim Vanilla Townie)
Crazy – (Claim Jarl Maven Black-Briar, Skyrim Politician)

I know I'm town, there is a logical chance that Nag is a Bodyguard. That leaves Crazy. I propose we lynch Crazy. Best case he's the last Thalmor. Worst case town's down to six tomorrow but have more info from the night.

Unvote Vote Crazy

Nope, you are going to hammer shield. There are 2 reasons, one, bomb sucks to prove tommorow after 2 town deaths (mislynch+nk) two, your claim is non verifiable by night action, and your only purpose is to keep Power townies alive, so that is what you should be willing to do. If the town to scum odds are 7 to 1, and you have told the truth, you should easily see that getting the unverifiable townies out of the picture is the best move, and needs to be done in as few as nights possible so as to keep as much town power alive as possible.

A VC please so we can she how to proceed with shield if you have the time everywhere.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

No offense edic but lynching shield is stupid. I role blocked him last night but kill still happened. Vt sound would be better lynch

[edocsil]

In a word, busdriver. There has to be one due to the Thalmore death,

If shield is a busdriver, your block means nothing. Look at his posts, he barely has any idea what's going on. He FoSed me and X for gods sake. He is clearly paying no attention and could easily be the one to have screwed his own faction. The only other option is a lying townie (vs dumb scum busdriver) and dumb scum is what I am praying for right now.

[crazymilkshake5]

well at this point i can do crap. so. do whatever.

[shieldgenerator7]

Now if there is a busdriver, why would it be scum? I don't think the busdriver would purposely hurt his own faction for the sake of clearing his own name. That's just dumb. I don't think any of the players here would be that dumb as (mafia) busdriver. If the busdriver is hiding under a fakeclaim, I would think it'd be either sound or Xenhu for their VT claims. But then that'd leave just 1 VT claim and that'd be weird (right? or is it normal for a game to have only 1 VT?). I srsly doubt the existence of any busdriver.

[everywhere116]

Vote Count 1

VC is wrong. Disregard this post.

[shieldgenerator7]

Heh. Good night. If that was busdriver shenanigans nice job there. Any chance the cop got something too?

Flavour doesn't suggest it but I doubt Thalmor would kill their own? Maybe, their are two mafias. (Thalmor & Stormcloaks)

We have had 2 kills each night - 1 of the killers I would say was not associated with the Thalmor. If I was a roleblocker, I may be thinking that I struck gold tonight. Either that or our doctor picked the right person to protect!

This is taken from the page of ghostly's death scene. (beginning of D4)

It would seem logical that there is a mafia faction and then maybe an SK or something, as I doubt there's two mafia factions. But maybe past jonty is on to something.

We HAVE had 2 kills each night, and then 2 nights in a row we have had 0 kills. Being that PCM (Town Doc) died last night, it is feasible that he blocked those two kills, or LSU blocked (one of) the killer(s) on one of those nights. If i remember correctly, the players he blocked the last two nights are S7C and SG7. So its possible either one of these are not who they say they are, but S7C has edoc's claim to back him up and he is not counterclaimed, so he's probably not scum. SG7's claim is unproven, but it can be proved. Any scum wanna target him tonight? (mua ha ha) . Since there have been two kills each night except the last two nights, it is possible that N3 and N4 PCM doc'd the right people or LSU bloc'd the right people to prevent one of those kills from going through.

There's also a possibility that the two kills made in N1 and N2 came from the vig, but being only a 2-shot vig, and being that the vig was the one-and-only Slash, I doubt this is the case.

I'm thinking that maybe we have an SK, who has either been silent the last 2 nights or has been either bloc'd or his target has been doc'd. It seems if there is an SK it would have to be either nag or sound as their claims aren't proven, and since nag's role fits the game structure better, I'm thinking it has to be sound who would be the SK.

However, if we are instead looking for a last thalmor member, I'd think it'd be crazy because of his role. (I don't know the flavor of his claimed character and how it fits in the storyline, but just frombeing a politician i'd think it'd be him). But if there is not a separate faction, it'd wouldn't explain ghostly's death. Maybe ghostly dies after using his 1 roleblock?

There must be an SK we're looking for, who's not thalmor but of a different faction or whatever. VOTE SOUND. If anyone's going to be the SK it'll probably be you.

(i'm a little tired right now posting this so if there's any inherent flaws in my argument please let me know)

-SG7 ( )

[edocsil]

Unvote vote shield.

Absolutely no indication that there is a second killer in the scenes. / is a dead vig, and he is know to shoot. Busdriver explains the self kill, and the town BD should have claimed, especially by now.

For others, shield has faked bomb before, and for good reasons, it's a hard role to disprove.

[shieldgenerator7]

I have never played a game with Slash in which he was a vig, or at least not that I remember. And I thought all experienced mafia players don't shoot N1 as the vig, so I assumed Slash would know better.

Edoc, if you say there is no evidence of a second kill each night, why do you still suspect me? LSU blocked me last night, therefore if there is only one killer (which you seem to think) than I am not the killer.

Your vote on me doesn't make sense.

-SG7 ( )

[edocsil]

I have never played a game with Slash in which he was a vig, or at least not that I remember. And I thought all experienced mafia players don't shoot N1 as the vig, so I assumed Slash would know better.

Edoc, if you say there is no evidence of a second kill each night, why do you still suspect me? LSU blocked me last night, therefore if there is only one killer (which you seem to think) than I am not the killer.

Your vote on me doesn't make sense.

-SG7 ( )

Dude, do you even read what I post? I think you are a scum busdriver dodging yourself around blocks.

[XenHu]

Vote: SG7

Pressure vote. On my way out the door to work.

Expect a full post from me later this evening.


-X

[shieldgenerator7]

I have never played a game with Slash in which he was a vig, or at least not that I remember. And I thought all experienced mafia players don't shoot N1 as the vig, so I assumed Slash would know better.

Edoc, if you say there is no evidence of a second kill each night, why do you still suspect me? LSU blocked me last night, therefore if there is only one killer (which you seem to think) than I am not the killer.

Your vote on me doesn't make sense.

-SG7 ( )

Dude, do you even read what I post? I think you are a scum busdriver dodging yourself around blocks.

If I was the scum busdriver, would I switch our kill target with one of my mafia members? Does that even make sense?

Also, Xenhu, what's the pressure for? A claim? I already claimed.

(funny how I make a small case indicating edoc and xenhu and they're the ones pressuring me)

If you guys want to lynch me to test and see if soundman will hammer, go ahead. But don't lynch me because you think I'm the killer, because I'm not.

-SG7 ( )

[edocsil]

I have never played a game with Slash in which he was a vig, or at least not that I remember. And I thought all experienced mafia players don't shoot N1 as the vig, so I assumed Slash would know better.

Edoc, if you say there is no evidence of a second kill each night, why do you still suspect me? LSU blocked me last night, therefore if there is only one killer (which you seem to think) than I am not the killer.

Your vote on me doesn't make sense.

-SG7 ( )

Dude, do you even read what I post? I think you are a scum busdriver dodging yourself around blocks.

If I was the scum busdriver, would I switch our kill target with one of my mafia members? Does that even make sense?

Also, Xenhu, what's the pressure for? A claim? I already claimed.

(funny how I make a small case indicating edoc and xenhu and they're the ones pressuring me)

If you guys want to lynch me to test and see if soundman will hammer, go ahead. But don't lynch me because you think I'm the killer, because I'm not.

-SG7 ( )

Question shield. You have claimed bomb. This is for both kills and lynches correct?r

[XenHu]

I have never played a game with Slash in which he was a vig, or at least not that I remember. And I thought all experienced mafia players don't shoot N1 as the vig, so I assumed Slash would know better.

Edoc, if you say there is no evidence of a second kill each night, why do you still suspect me? LSU blocked me last night, therefore if there is only one killer (which you seem to think) than I am not the killer.

Your vote on me doesn't make sense.

-SG7 ( )

Dude, do you even read what I post? I think you are a scum busdriver dodging yourself around blocks.

If I was the scum busdriver, would I switch our kill target with one of my mafia members? Does that even make sense?

Also, Xenhu, what's the pressure for? A claim? I already claimed.

(funny how I make a small case indicating edoc and xenhu and they're the ones pressuring me)

If you guys want to lynch me to test and see if soundman will hammer, go ahead. But don't lynch me because you think I'm the killer, because I'm not.

-SG7 ( )

Pressure is pressure. It's not always about getting people to claim.

Also, this whole 'You guys can go ahead and lynch me I've done nothing wrong nyah" defense is getting really old. How many times has it been used now?

I'm just saying, bomb is a real easy claim to fake. And sound's not looking so hot either, so this is the best way to kill two birds with one stone.

-X

[XenHu]

I've seen more activity in graveyards at midnight....

Y'all get lockjaw or what?

-X

[shieldgenerator7]

Ok, so you're voting me so we can test soundman's towniness. Ok. And bTW that wsn't a defense at all. Just a comment.