R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution: Connecting the Dots

[saxitoxin]

Well, it's gonna be Romney vs. Obama. So, if he wants to endorse Gary Johnson, then we have 4 more years of Obama. = fail

I guess that's fine if you're okay with ObamaCare, War, Executions-Without-Trial, Deficit Spending and so forth provided the guy doing it is a wealthy, middle-age, corrupt, white career politician instead of a wealthy, middle-age, corrupt, half-white career politician.

"I'd rather vote for something I want and not get it than vote for something I don't want and get it." - Eugene Debs

You know I'm not. What I am okay with is a Tea Party that can make an impact against the things you named and I would further call priorities. What else will do it? I think it's the best shot we have. A lot of work has been done and a lot of roads have been paved, hopefully that will become evident in November.

yep, that's the focus-group tested line that's supposed to placate the base

1992: Pat Buchanan - Team Buchanan will continue the fight!
1993: Team Who?
1996: Ross Perot - United We Stand America will continue the fight!
1997: United the What?
2012: Ron Paul - the Campaign for Liberty will continue the fight!
2013: ...

This is how it goes. Any time public pressure becomes too intense, they drag out an inspirational, rebellious leader to lead the masses off the edge of a cliff where they can't do any harm. Then said leader fades into the shadows, ne'er to be heard from again.

[Phatscotty]

I am young and still have hope. My mentor says it's hopeless, but on the other hand he admitted he was wrong about the Tea Party. At first he made some comments like "oh yeah the people rise up and rah-rah it's not gonna do anything" but then about a year later, I heard him on 2 occasions, say "thank goodness for that Tea Party"

I won't give up until I learn for myself that I should give up. Right now I am as opposite as can be from giving up. I have lots of hope, lots of confidence, and lot's of faith in America.

A lot of times we look at the next generation and talk a lot of crap and that is normal for all generations, but I think this generation, that is dealing with friends and family in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places are really going to surprise us.

I claim we are in the midst of the 4th great awakening in American history, and you can't poop on that party!

[thegreekdog]

I guess that's fine if you're okay with ObamaCare, War, Executions-Without-Trial, Deficit Spending and so forth provided the guy doing it is a wealthy, middle-age, corrupt, white career politician instead of a wealthy, middle-age, corrupt, half-white career politician.

I think I'm going to make this my signature - no, not my CC signature; my work email signature.

[Neoteny]

Liberty totally sucks. Stalin/Biden 2012

[BigBallinStalin]

The first letter of Stalin is "S," which is also the first letter of the words "security" and "safety." You want job security, don't you? And you want safety for your loved ones, don't you?

With Stalin, you will get security and safety. With Obama, you will get "Oh shit..." and "Oops."


Vote for Stalin. A promoter of Security and Safety.

[pmchugh]

My mentor says

Lol.

[Doc_Brown]

yep, that's the focus-group tested line that's supposed to placate the base

1992: Pat Buchanan - Team Buchanan will continue the fight!
1993: Team Who?
1996: Ross Perot - United We Stand America will continue the fight!
1997: United the What?
2012: Ron Paul - the Campaign for Liberty will continue the fight!
2013: ...

I think your list is missing a few points:

1992: Pat Buchanan - Team Buchanan will continue the fight!
1993: Team Who?
1996: Ross Perot - United We Stand America will continue the fight!
1997: United the What?
2008: Ron Paul - the Campaign for Liberty will continue the fight!
2009: Ron Paul - The TEA party is the outgrowth of what the Campaign for Liberty has been saying!
2010: Ron Paul - TEA party and liberty-minded candidates have made huge gains!
2011: Ron Paul - the Campaign for Liberty will continue the fight!
2012: Ron Paul - the Campaign for Liberty has done far better this year than four years ago, and better than anyone thought we would!
2013: ?

[Phatscotty]

Well, do you think the movement has grown from what it was in the beginning of your timeline?

The strategy has changed completely, and the current strategy is a good one. That is, working from the inside of the GOP to transform it, rather than a third party route. To me, we are just forcing the Republicans to actually stand up for the principles they preach. It's a monumental effort and it isn't easy. But all you need to do is look around to the new batches of Ron Paul supporters who are getting elected to office, it's like having 20 Ron Pauls in the House, 5 in the Senate, as well as some governorships and many state positions all along the country. If you thought the 2010 Federal election was a landslide, if you look at it on a local level, the victory was even more stunning and far more in depth and important to the future of the movement.

WE will be represented by almost 500 delegates at Tampa. WE should be very proud.

Ron Paul is Becoming Something More Important Than President

Ron Paul conceding he won’t be president and Rand Paul supporting the presumptive GOP nominee are but trivial anecdotes to the obvious and ongoing success of the most transformative political movement of our time: The rEVOLution.

I’m more excited right now about our political future than at any other time in my life. Still, some people aren’t connecting all the dots. Please watch, contemplate and share. This movement moves forward. To Tampa and beyond:

[Phatscotty]

My mentor says

Lol.

I don't know what else to call him

[Aradhus]

My mentor says

Lol.

I don't know what else to call him

Boyfriend, partner, lover, dad. Take your pick.

[Phatscotty]

My mentor says

Lol.

I don't know what else to call him

Boyfriend, partner, lover, dad. Take your pick.

meat chubb?

[Woodruff]

My mentor says

Lol.

That poor man. <shaking my head sadly>

My mentor says

Lol.

I don't know what else to call him

I'll just stick with "That poor man".

[Phatscotty]

Rand Paul Endorsement of Mitt Romney Was a Tactical Masterstroke for Libertarianism

http://www.policymic.com/articles/9491/ ... rtarianism

I'm starting to think I must be the only voice in an avalanche of Paulites who wasn't outraged by Senator Rand Paul's endorsement of Mitt Romney.

As a libertarian with a perspective of the Scottish independence movement and the nascent liberty movement in my home country, Ireland, I sometimes wonder if many of Ron Paul's supporters are more invested in the short game of winning elections than in the long game of building a free world, an objective which transcends personality politics.

So was Rand Paul's endorsement really a sellout? Or was it a tactical master stroke for the libertarian agenda? It depends. Let's face it, the reaction itself was just a lot of hot air, equivalent to the outrage of folk fans when Dylan went electric in the sixties.

"Sellout!" they cried. "He’s giving in to the man!" It's a rich metaphor considering the general air of folk whimsy about Ron (as well as the purity complex of his more hardcore fans) and the more hard-edged, charismatic persona of his sequel.

I don’t believe that supporting your party's nominee somehow represents a devaluation of principles. Endorsements are just talk, and talk is cheap. But no need to worry; so far at least, Rand walks the walk. He is against foreign aid. He wants to audit the Federal Reserve. He has proposed a budget which balances in five years. He is one of the few members of the Tea Party insurgency who eats with a knife and fork.

He may be willing to haggle, but Rand is no moderate.

If he was wrong about anything, it was timing. To give Romney his backing just one day after the Paul campaign announced their shortfall of delegates must have stung for legions of supporters who were so emotionally invested for so long in defeating Romney.

But by sending the message that he is a team player to the inner bigwigs of the Republican Party, Rand succeeds in doing something that Ron never managed to do: build bridges. Speculation on a VP slot aside (of which I am quite skeptical) it means at the very least he may be given a headline slot in the convention in Tampa.

A similar convention gig launched Barack Obama into the public consciousness back in the 2004 presidential race when Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) was the Democratic nominee for president.
Frankly, I couldn’t care less about Romney. His Keynesian, pro-war and pro-nanny state policies, not to mention that sheer oiliness makes him a pretty weak candidate in the first place.

I would like to see Obama getting a second term, then Senator Paul in 2016. Better suffer through four more years of big government neoconservatism under Obama (it's true) than a potential eight under Romney and an war with Iran thrown in for good measure.

Rand Paul will become a sellout if --and only if -- he changes his senate voting habits away from libertarian values. I will be watching him very closely to see if this happens. If he starts “blowing in the wind,” I will certainly eat my words. But if I’m right, that Paul is simply being prudent in the pursuit of libertarian goals, then I hope Paulites everywhere will join me in giving full support to his future endeavors.

To be 90% right and in office is more use to the cause of liberty than to be 100% right and sit on the sidelines.

[saxitoxin]

As a libertarian with a perspective of the Scottish independence movement and the nascent liberty movement in my home country, Ireland, I sometimes wonder if many of Ron Paul's supporters are more invested in the short game of winning elections than in the long game of building a free world ...

lol ... we've heard these code words from every USA president in the last 30 years prior to attacking something

The process of assimilation is almost complete ... a few more cups of water and the recipe will be sufficiently diluted to be indistinguishable from Movement Republicanisim. The next time you'll hear about Paul advocating for the U.S. to end support for Israel or withdraw from Korea will be during his eulogy. I wonder if Rand has got his invitation to keynote AIPAC yet?

[BigBallinStalin]

As the author says, we'll see how Rand pans out with his voting behavior.

After his endorsement, I don't think he's a trustworthy guy (as far as libertarianism is concerned).

[thegreekdog]

As the author says, we'll see how Rand pans out with his voting behavior.

After his endorsement, I don't think he's a trustworthy guy (as far as libertarianism is concerned).

That sums up my opinion as well.

[Neoteny]

Real liberty.

[BigBallinStalin]

Real liberty.

[Neoteny]

You will not repress me, capitalist whore.

Alexander 2012.

[BigBallinStalin]

Here's an appropriate avatar for you:

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[Neoteny]

Fight with us, comrade. It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

[BigBallinStalin]

It depends on the costs and benefits. There could be silk cushions under your knees!

[AndyDufresne]

Fight with us, comrade. It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

What if we could hover or levitate or float? Hm,

Guru Achievement.


--Andy

[Phatscotty]

[2dimes]

Jonathan Davis of Korn says he wants Ron Paul for President, he's a Satanic atheist and his second favorite band is Led Zeppelin -

Ron Paul is like a Freak on a Leash, yo.


--Andy

I don't think he said atheist. I thought it might have been Satanic Wicca. Which would of course make more sense. I can't make it out but that's not it either.

It almost sounds like "I'm a Satanic Christian."