Matrix Mafia Endgame, Town and Survivors win!

[shieldgenerator7]

Jak is town. Leave him be, we are masoned.

that's enough for me. UNVOTE

[edocsil]

Edoc...

I would then like to see your flavor analysis of this game. The list of characters are limited, so it shouldn't be too hard. I've made one already, and I come up with quite a few VTs. If anyone is going to be masons, it's Neo and Trinity and perhaps Morpheus.

Just curious, because, with 6-7 VTs...per my figuring...it's going to be difficult for any of the VTs to get by once they claim, because they will all be "too convenient."

Neb

Hence why all my games are no vanilla, and much smaller. Still, every one of these characters has enough flavor to get a real role, even if it is something as simple as an Innocent Child

Roles my top 18

Mergovian
Twins
Trainman
Oracle
Neo
Trinity
Morpheus
Agent Smith
Agent Jones
Agent Brown
Cypher
Sati
Link
The Keymaker
Niobe
Seraph
Captain Mifune
Persephone

[cowboyz]

Jak is town. Leave him be, we are masoned.

Was just counting votes and you fastposted me. We were at 11.

I'll go ahead and post for reference.
Bandwagon on Jak
dazza2008
IB
betiko
neb
hippo
everywhere
DJfireside
shield
jonty
spartacus
chuck

Yoshi, what are your thoughts?

[DoomYoshi]

Jak has been scummy. If I wasn't his partner I would be on the BW too. Normally I wouldn't out myself, but I feel he already kinda outed me.

IB has been pretty thin-skinned this game, but that is a cat to skin a different day I think.

Vote the hippo

BW jumping combined with flying under radar/not contributing.

[dazza2008]

Unvote

[Djfireside]

Ill take that because I would like to think that someone wouldnt attached themselves like that out the gate.

UNVOTE

[thehippo8]

Jak has been scummy. If I wasn't his partner I would be on the BW too. Normally I wouldn't out myself, but I feel he already kinda outed me.

IB has been pretty thin-skinned this game, but that is a cat to skin a different day I think.

Vote the hippo

BW jumping combined with flying under radar/not contributing.

Sorry Doom, got back from holiday in the weekend and still trying to catch my tail. I've been reading and watching but you are right, not contributing. I consider my hand slapped. I am interested that Betico, Dazza and Sparticus are having lovely little chats and interludes. Looking really professional and on to it but IMHO seem joined at the hip and going unchallenged. IMHO Betico screams out loudest as being too "try hard" and "daddy" for my liking.

Unvote vote Betico

[dazza2008]

Jak has been scummy. If I wasn't his partner I would be on the BW too. Normally I wouldn't out myself, but I feel he already kinda outed me.

IB has been pretty thin-skinned this game, but that is a cat to skin a different day I think.

Vote the hippo

BW jumping combined with flying under radar/not contributing.

Sorry Doom, got back from holiday in the weekend and still trying to catch my tail. I've been reading and watching but you are right, not contributing. I consider my hand slapped. I am interested that Betico, Dazza and Sparticus are having lovely little chats and interludes. Looking really professional and on to it but IMHO seem joined at the hip and going unchallenged. IMHO Betico screams out loudest as being too "try hard" and "daddy" for my liking.

Unvote vote Betico

What????

So Betiko does not see the point of Edoc's post and I clear it up for him. Sparticus thanks me because he did not get his point either and suddenly we are joint at the hip.

WTF??? Did you read the thread or just see 3 people posting in a row and decide to link them?

[shieldgenerator7]

I don't understand your case hippo, but I'm glad to see you're trying to be active

[edocsil]

Jak has been scummy. If I wasn't his partner I would be on the BW too. Normally I wouldn't out myself, but I feel he already kinda outed me.

IB has been pretty thin-skinned this game, but that is a cat to skin a different day I think.

Vote the hippo

BW jumping combined with flying under radar/not contributing.

Sorry Doom, got back from holiday in the weekend and still trying to catch my tail. I've been reading and watching but you are right, not contributing. I consider my hand slapped. I am interested that Betico, Dazza and Sparticus are having lovely little chats and interludes. Looking really professional and on to it but IMHO seem joined at the hip and going unchallenged. IMHO Betico screams out loudest as being too "try hard" and "daddy" for my liking.

Unvote vote Betico

What????

So Betiko does not see the point of Edoc's post and I clear it up for him. Sparticus thanks me because he did not get his point either and suddenly we are joint at the hip.

WTF??? Did you read the thread or just see 3 people posting in a row and decide to link them?

Yeah, I sure don't see it either.

[betiko]

Jak is town. Leave him be, we are masoned.

ok, i don't think mafia would do something that stupid and put under the line of fire 2 of their own to save one.

UNVOTE

regarding edocsil, sorry, i understood wrongly what you said, it makes sense now. And i always thought it was "whine in front of me" by the way, lol.
Kind of back to square one then, because I don't really buy neb's case. I think I'm inclined to go back to a previous one, meaning iron butterfly because I don't really want to see opened too many cases on day 1, unless something interesting comes up.

not revoting yet, let's see what comes up with doom's revelation.

[edocsil]

Why would doom have anything else to say? I want to tear back into Neb, but if that gains no traction (unlike at this point) I have other thoughts as well.

[betiko]

sorry i was at the end of page 30 and thought i had read it all with doom's post.
lol at hippo! so you are told that you are jumping around too much and you respond by starting a new case? based on something a few of us didn't understand and that got clarified?

fastposted

[crazymilkshake5]

I don't understand your case hippo, but I'm glad to see you're trying to be active

yeah, i agree mate.

[dazza2008]

Vote Hippo.

I know that Hippo's style is to hop around from vote to vote with little logic or reason but that "case" was f***ing ridiculous even for him.

[jak111]

I confirm Doom's mason claim. I didn't try 'outing' you bud. That post was literally in the wrong thread. Besides that I have no real powers v.v Besides being aggressive during the day. (I swear, mods have it out for me to be VT with the odd mason once in a while).

Other than that, I didn't want to drag Doom into my battle D1, but I do thank him, that was getting awfully close and I was away at school during the time the votes really started piling up o.O.

So, does anyone now question whether I'm trying to get info for town's sake?

[Nebuchadnezer]

unvote

[Some7hingCLEVER]

OMG i have finally read up and was ready to vote jak but with the recent mason news i wont do it. so what i waste of my time lol.

[jak111]

Though I'm going back to check the ones who jumped on the wagon today, a lot of "I don't want to repeat what others have said" So are you saying that you literally have no opinion besides following someone else? Guarantee there was at least 1 mafia on that wagon. Whom, I do not know yet. But I'll be keeping a keen on on you lot who voted today. It seems the idea of actually having your own opinion is out the window or someones playing follow the leader as a scummy

[jak111]

So, we have
~ Dj
~ SG7
~ Jonty
~ Spartacus
~ Chuck

Now out of the 5 who voted today, only 3 even bothered to give an explanation, leaving us with SG7 and Jonty who really didn't explain their vote besides stating that they didn't want to say what's already been said.

For inactives or non contributers (or small ones) we have: (also sort by author to confirm this)
~ CMS who hasn't contributed much in the last couple of days besides jumping on the band wagon a few days ago and then continuing to pressure JG before just making random posts to seem active)
~ Eldario whom has 7 posts to date. His last post was 3 days ago.
~ MoB whom since the Diablo beta is over, we expect to see him post within the next day or so.
~ Skillfulsniper who hasn't posted since 4 days ago. Has only 7 posts to date.
~ Soundman with 8 posts to date. 2 posts on the 20th and before that he last posted on the 17th in the joke vote still.

So in conclusion, none of you can tell me you've had your eyes anywhere but for me. None of you noticed really 5 inactives? NO ONE?!?

If PMC was here I'd rest my case on the fact that band wagons generate no real info because everyone only looks at a single person, and most of the time don't even think for themselves. (Reference the Jonty and SG7 case I mentioned)

Anyone wishing to fight my statement above, point out where you mentioned any of those 5 or someone else since the beginning of the wagon on me. I bet not a single one of you can.

So, shall we get the inactives to show up, or perhaps pursue the two smaller guys who decided to not really have an opinion on the wagon?

I think between the wagon and the inactives/non contributers, I nailed 7 people with a case. There's other cases floating around, I know, but this is nice being able to point this out and relax a bit, knowing that now someone or 2 will read past the bad contradictory statements in my posts and actually READ it for a whole.

[thechuck51]

unvote

I am tempted to ask jak and doom's roles (character names) to make sure they make sense that they would be linked as masons (as i talked about in a previous post). Would that be appropriate or would i just be rehashing the tank is a vanilla townie debate in a different form?

[jak111]

unvote

I am tempted to ask jak and doom's roles (character names) to make sure they make sense that they would be linked as masons (as i talked about in a previous post). Would that be appropriate or would i just be rehashing the tank is a vanilla townie debate in a different form?

You'd be doing the tank VT again. Besides, one of us shall be picked off tonight or tomorrow by the mafia, so it should be obvious to town by then, until then the names are irrelevant unless you wish for more spam on what roles a name should have.

[everywhere116]

unvote

I am tempted to ask jak and doom's roles (character names) to make sure they make sense that they would be linked as masons (as i talked about in a previous post). Would that be appropriate or would i just be rehashing the tank is a vanilla townie debate in a different form?

You'd be doing the tank VT again. Besides, one of us shall be picked off tonight or tomorrow by the mafia, so it should be obvious to town by then, until then the names are irrelevant unless you wish for more spam on what roles a name should have.

Obligatory Unvote

I was about to ask for your names as well, but I suppose this makes sense.

[thechuck51]

unvote

I am tempted to ask jak and doom's roles (character names) to make sure they make sense that they would be linked as masons (as i talked about in a previous post). Would that be appropriate or would i just be rehashing the tank is a vanilla townie debate in a different form?

You'd be doing the tank VT again. Besides, one of us shall be picked off tonight or tomorrow by the mafia, so it should be obvious to town by then, until then the names are irrelevant unless you wish for more spam on what roles a name should have.

I most definitely do not want that.

[jak111]

So, see anyone on the list I made that seems a worthy candidate for the wagonteers? Personally I'm gonna go with skillfulsniper. He's the longest inactive, and he really hasn't contributed anything to the game. So. Vote Sniper (Unvote, if needed, don't think so..)