Matrix Mafia Endgame, Town and Survivors win!

thehippo8 · Post by **thehippo8** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:03 pm

Pushing Edoc always gets a good response ...vote Edoc

Some7hingCLEVER · Post by **Some7hingCLEVER** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:03 pm

ghostly has posted in vacation thread sooo

edocsil · Post by **edocsil** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:40 pm

Neb you advocate being active and voting people/being active, despite not desiring to do a roll call (idk about the call, just activity) however you are just derping around voting for yourself and not making any sort of case at all. That's scummy. Then you go OMGUS everyone who wagoned you. Bad form, my vote stays.

And Hippo, got to do better then that. If someone votes me with no better logic then "hey this is interesting sometimes" I am going to tell the to try again.

thehippo8 · Post by **thehippo8** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:45 pm

edocsil wrote:Neb you advocate being active and voting people/being active, despite not desiring to do a roll call (idk about the call, just activity) however you are just derping around voting for yourself and not making any sort of case at all. That's scummy. Then you go OMGUS everyone who wagoned you. Bad form, my vote stays.

And Hippo, got to do better then that. If someone votes me with no better logic then "hey this is interesting sometimes" I am going to tell the to try again.

Always admired you ...

thehippo8 · Post by **thehippo8** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:46 pm

... oops ... clicked send before ... unvote

thechuck51 · Post by **thechuck51** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:59 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:OK....seeing how we have 24 people playing and it takes 13 to lynch Neb may as well be the first to claim.

Vote Neb

I believe he is now at L3

safariguy5 wrote:Vote Count

IB(1)- jak, Leehar
crazymilkshake(1)- soundman
Neb(11)- Skillfu, eldario, spart, yoshi, everywhere, Neb, cm5, dazza, mob, edoc, IB
betiko(2)- cowboyz
dazza(1)- freezie
freezie(1)- jonty

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline is midnight May 1st, PST. If no lynch is decided by then, the day will end in a no lynch.

Your vote made 11 which if I am correct put neb at L2.

Did you miscount when you said he was at L3? or were you hoping that somebody would trust your count and
vote neb to increase pressure (by putting him at what they thought was L2), thus allowing one of your scumbuddies to swoop in and drop the hammer?

jak111 · Post by **jak111** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:01 pm

While IB should've attempted to at least speak in the first few Real Life days of this game, he/she has began posting finally, though I must say that Neb is OMGUS'ing so badly this game for some reason. Also he is avoiding speaking up when so near a lynch, bad choice and scummy mate.

Unvote, Vote Neb

Nebuchadnezer · Post by **Nebuchadnezer** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:17 pm

jak111 wrote:While IB should've attempted to at least speak in the first few Real Life days of this game, he/she has began posting finally, though I must say that Neb is OMGUS'ing so badly this game for some reason. Also he is avoiding speaking up when so near a lynch, bad choice and scummy mate.

Unvote, Vote Neb

Holy crap, jak111! You're really voting for a townie?

Crap...I guess my gambit backfired...meh...I'd vote myself out, but that would be bad form.

1. OMGUSing? Who? edocsil and MoB? whatever...
2. Avoiding speaking up? Are you serious? How much posting have I done this day?

Some7hingCLEVER · Post by **Some7hingCLEVER** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:20 pm

uh i voted him as well so i think you put him at l-1 jak

Nebuchadnezer · Post by **Nebuchadnezer** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:26 pm

edocsil wrote:Neb you advocate being active and voting people/being active, despite not desiring to do a roll call (idk about the call, just activity) however you are just derping around voting for yourself and not making any sort of case at all. That's scummy. Then you go OMGUS everyone who wagoned you. Bad form, my vote stays.

And Hippo, got to do better then that. If someone votes me with no better logic then "hey this is interesting sometimes" I am going to tell the to try again.

1. Yes, i want more activity. My method is different than yours...which you already stated you don't like the "Yoshi call"...yet, me going about it a different way, is scummy.
2. There IS no case to make until there is activity. What case would you have had me make? Or should I have waited for Soundman to post...who has now disappeared?
3. OMGUS? I didn't actually vote anyone. Is that still an OMGUS? And I OMGUS'd everyone?? I bit of an overstatement? just a little?
4. I guess I underestimated how deep a hole I dug...I didn't think a clearly town claim would end this way...but, whatevs...

jak111 · Post by **jak111** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:30 pm

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:uh i voted him as well so i think you put him at l-1 jak

Hmm, must've miscounted I thought he was still at L-3. Unvote, though if 3 more townies agree with me to vote you Neb, I'm putting you back on the edge. We want to start getting some info to go off of and you seem to be the target today for said info.

Nebuchadnezer · Post by **Nebuchadnezer** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:32 pm

jak111 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:uh i voted him as well so i think you put him at l-1 jak
Hmm, must've miscounted I thought he was still at L-3. Unvote, though if 3 more townies agree with me to vote you Neb, I'm putting you back on the edge. We want to start getting some info to go off of and you seem to be the target today for said info.

Understood. I am the easy out for a lazy town lynch.

jak111 · Post by **jak111** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:34 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
jak111 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:uh i voted him as well so i think you put him at l-1 jak
Hmm, must've miscounted I thought he was still at L-3. Unvote, though if 3 more townies agree with me to vote you Neb, I'm putting you back on the edge. We want to start getting some info to go off of and you seem to be the target today for said info.
Understood. I am the easy out for a lazy town lynch.

Who do you think we should pressure? We gotta start with someone and you seem to be our target for today for info. So get to speaking before two other people beat me to lynching you.

Nebuchadnezer · Post by **Nebuchadnezer** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:38 pm

jak111 wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:
jak111 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:uh i voted him as well so i think you put him at l-1 jak
Hmm, must've miscounted I thought he was still at L-3. Unvote, though if 3 more townies agree with me to vote you Neb, I'm putting you back on the edge. We want to start getting some info to go off of and you seem to be the target today for said info.
Understood. I am the easy out for a lazy town lynch.
Who do you think we should pressure? We gotta start with someone and you seem to be our target for today for info. So get to speaking before two other people beat me to lynching you.

lol...in my zeal to get activity, all I did was put the target squarely on myself. My big bluster allowed everyone to pile on me without suspicion, or to stay away from with the same result. i screwed myself. I was hoping someone else would pick up on something, while I was in the midst of my rambling...and now you expect me to come up with something? I was the bull in a china shop...everyone else should be watching what comes out of the mess I made.

So...jak111...why don't you come out of your safe place and perhaps name someone you'd like to go after? haven't I caused enough distraction? you really think anyone will follow what I say now?

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:00 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
jak111 wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:
jak111 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:uh i voted him as well so i think you put him at l-1 jak
Hmm, must've miscounted I thought he was still at L-3. Unvote, though if 3 more townies agree with me to vote you Neb, I'm putting you back on the edge. We want to start getting some info to go off of and you seem to be the target today for said info.
Understood. I am the easy out for a lazy town lynch.
Who do you think we should pressure? We gotta start with someone and you seem to be our target for today for info. So get to speaking before two other people beat me to lynching you.
lol...in my zeal to get activity, all I did was put the target squarely on myself. My big bluster allowed everyone to pile on me without suspicion, or to stay away from with the same result. i screwed myself. I was hoping someone else would pick up on something, while I was in the midst of my rambling...and now you expect me to come up with something? I was the bull in a china shop...everyone else should be watching what comes out of the mess I made.

So...jak111...why don't you come out of your safe place and perhaps name someone you'd like to go after? haven't I caused enough distraction? you really think anyone will follow what I say now?

Just out of the blue..this post strikes me as odd..You vote yourself to get activity, and, I beleive, hope to catch someone on your bandwaggon..And when everyone votes you for your strange behavious, you ask other people to makes cases?

I mean, you're not completly wrong. But most of these people have a reason to vote you. Jak more or less does to my eyes, but you're still trying to place the pressure you got yourself on other people.

If your reasons to vote yourself are what I think them to be, why don't you create something, instead of waiting for others to do it?

jak111 · Post by **jak111** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:00 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
jak111 wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:
jak111 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:uh i voted him as well so i think you put him at l-1 jak
Hmm, must've miscounted I thought he was still at L-3. Unvote, though if 3 more townies agree with me to vote you Neb, I'm putting you back on the edge. We want to start getting some info to go off of and you seem to be the target today for said info.
Understood. I am the easy out for a lazy town lynch.
Who do you think we should pressure? We gotta start with someone and you seem to be our target for today for info. So get to speaking before two other people beat me to lynching you.
lol...in my zeal to get activity, all I did was put the target squarely on myself. My big bluster allowed everyone to pile on me without suspicion, or to stay away from with the same result. i screwed myself. I was hoping someone else would pick up on something, while I was in the midst of my rambling...and now you expect me to come up with something? I was the bull in a china shop...everyone else should be watching what comes out of the mess I made.

So...jak111...why don't you come out of your safe place and perhaps name someone you'd like to go after? haven't I caused enough distraction? you really think anyone will follow what I say now?

Iron Butterfly
Cowboyz (Never said anything since two days ago and that was in the joke vote stage)
Crazymilkshake (Never posted much of import besides joking around or voting band wagon votes with NO explanation)
Eldario (made 3 posts, 1 to join, 1 to confirm, and one to vote Neb)
Ghostly (made 3 posts, 1 to join, 1 to confirm, and one to say he was reading up on the game 3 days ago)
Soundman (For only joke voting, making himself lay low and seem active every 2 days)
Spartacus (Only joke voting so far, also hasn't posted in 3 days)

DoomYoshi · Post by **DoomYoshi** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:03 pm

Well, if neb IS a vanilla townie lynching him at this stage won't hurt. If he isn't: BONUS! We still have time on the deadline though so unvote. I like to prolong the day and watch the scum stew.

jak111 · Post by **jak111** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:14 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:Well, if neb IS a vanilla townie lynching him at this stage won't hurt. If he isn't: BONUS! We still have time on the deadline though so unvote. I like to prolong the day and watch the scum stew.

+1

I'm trying to bring a few cases forward though I strongly believe Neb dug his own grave.

Nebuchadnezer · Post by **Nebuchadnezer** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:20 pm

jak111 wrote:
Iron Butterfly
Cowboyz (Never said anything since two days ago and that was in the joke vote stage)
Crazymilkshake (Never posted much of import besides joking around or voting band wagon votes with NO explanation)
Eldario (made 3 posts, 1 to join, 1 to confirm, and one to vote Neb)
Ghostly (made 3 posts, 1 to join, 1 to confirm, and one to say he was reading up on the game 3 days ago)
Soundman (For only joke voting, making himself lay low and seem active every 2 days)
Spartacus (Only joke voting so far, also hasn't posted in 3 days)

Well, I was going to get to this...Jak beat me to it.

safariguy5 wrote:Vote Count

IB(1)- jak, Leehar
crazymilkshake(1)- soundman
Neb(11)- Skillfu, eldario, spart, yoshi, everywhere, Neb, cm5, dazza, mob, edoc, IB
betiko(2)- cowboyz
dazza(1)- freezie
freezie(1)- jonty

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline is midnight May 1st, PST. If no lynch is decided by then, the day will end in a no lynch.

1. freezie
3. jak111 - voted afterward.
8. Leehar
10. thehippo8 - voted/unvoted afterward.
11. betiko
13. SPARTACUS1974 - no voting on anyone.
14. Djfireside - no voting on anyone.
17. jonty125
20. cowboyz
21. shieldgenerator7 - no voting on anyone.
22. thechuck51 - no voting on anyone.
23. ghostly447 - no voting on anyone.
24. soundman
SomethingCLEVER - voted afterward

Okay, let's see what we can find here. So, Let me check post counts on those not voting...

Iron Butterfly · Post by **Iron Butterfly** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:21 pm

thechuck51 wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:OK....seeing how we have 24 people playing and it takes 13 to lynch Neb may as well be the first to claim.

Vote Neb

I believe he is now at L3

safariguy5 wrote:Vote Count

IB(1)- jak, Leehar
crazymilkshake(1)- soundman
Neb(11)- Skillfu, eldario, spart, yoshi, everywhere, Neb, cm5, dazza, mob, edoc, IB
betiko(2)- cowboyz
dazza(1)- freezie
freezie(1)- jonty

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline is midnight May 1st, PST. If no lynch is decided by then, the day will end in a no lynch.
Your vote made 11 which if I am correct put neb at L2.

Did you miscount when you said he was at L3? or were you hoping that somebody would trust your count and
vote neb to increase pressure (by putting him at what they thought was L2), thus allowing one of your scumbuddies to swoop in and drop the hammer?

Seeing how you have two answers ready to go why not just pick one and vote accordingly.

To me it was an obvious mistake. You however may have a different agenda. I will most definatlely watch more closely what you post.

Nebuchadnezer · Post by **Nebuchadnezer** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:24 pm

jak111 wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Well, if neb IS a vanilla townie lynching him at this stage won't hurt. If he isn't: BONUS! We still have time on the deadline though so unvote. I like to prolong the day and watch the scum stew.
+1

I'm trying to bring a few cases forward though I strongly believe Neb dug his own grave.

Yah, I'm fine with that. I think my lynch gives info...however, I would say that we have time to at least pressure one other player...perhaps an inactive to either get them in here, or at least get another claim. I would not like to die, at this point.

Based on jak's list...I'll stab in the dark at...

Vote ELDARIO

crazymilkshake5 · Post by **crazymilkshake5** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:50 pm

I still aint done with ya neb, You say your a VT? well that doesnt sound right, why? because Tank was anything but a VT!

Tank had a brother, Dozer, so that opens a mason role, also, he was a pure human, born in Zion, so he could not go into the matrix, and he also gave his crew mates that went into the matrix the skills they needed for the matrix,This is the scene just after Tank gives Neo Kung-Fu powers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmEPXXJ4 ... re=related

So either he is lying to cover up his true role as a Mason/something, or he just made a bad fake-claim.

For that reason my vote stays.

soundman · Post by **soundman** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:20 am

Busy the last few days but I'm caught up now.

Who do I think the scummiest is? Hippo. Look back at his posts. They have all been pretty much fluff posts with him jumping around with his votes without any real reason. Though CMS brings up a good point about Neb's claim. I don't really see Tank as being a VT either. Though with him being "pure human" with no special powers (so to speak) I can also see him possibly being a VT. I'm just not sure. So I'll go with my original thought and Vote Hippo.

One more thing.

jak111 wrote:While IB should've attempted to at least speak in the first few Real Life days of this game, he/she has began posting finally, though I must say that Neb is OMGUS'ing so badly this game for some reason. Also he is avoiding speaking up when so near a lynch, bad choice and scummy mate.

Unvote, Vote Neb

Where is he OMGUSing? I don't think he's done that. Also he has been speaking and even claimed. Why do you say he isn't?

jak111 wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:
jak111 wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:uh i voted him as well so i think you put him at l-1 jak
Hmm, must've miscounted I thought he was still at L-3. Unvote, though if 3 more townies agree with me to vote you Neb, I'm putting you back on the edge. We want to start getting some info to go off of and you seem to be the target today for said info.
Understood. I am the easy out for a lazy town lynch.
Who do you think we should pressure? We gotta start with someone and you seem to be our target for today for info. So get to speaking before two other people beat me to lynching you.

What info are you looking for? I get the feeling that you are looking for him to claim when he already has. If that is the case then FOS for skimming.

thehippo8 · Post by **thehippo8** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:10 am

soundman wrote:Busy the last few days but I'm caught up now. Who do I think the scummiest is? Hippo. Look back at his posts. They have all been pretty much fluff posts with him jumping around with his votes without any real reason. Though CMS brings up a good point about Neb's claim. I don't really see Tank as being a VT either. Though with him being "pure human" with no special powers (so to speak) I can also see him possibly being a VT. I'm just not sure. So I'll go with my original thought and Vote Hippo.

Wow Soundman, really? At least we both agree that the Neb case is nebulous. If you were criticising me pressuring edoc as suggested by Neb and then removing that on his IMHO appropriate response, I really don't get you at all. I've had a look back and there is otherwise no basis at all for what you are saying. Perhaps you missed it but I haven't removed my vote from Rossalier yet and my vote remains on him (our mod has missed it!). I'm back from holiday now, so maybe you were criticising me for being on holiday and not posting much? FOS Soundman for skimming.

Anyway, it's either lynch Neb or follow his suggestions for the good of town! So, for now I want to hear more from MoB. Unless I hear something sensible then I will move my vote to you!

Eldario · Post by **Eldario** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:26 am

I'm going to be away during the weekend, but despise that my vote on Neb was a jokevote, it seams that some interesting points have been made (and in the matter of Tank not being a VT, I'm a bit unsure but I'm leaning towards agreeing on that theory), I will consider this during the day, and decide before tomorrow if I should unvote during the weekend, thou I am not completely convinced of Nebs guilt

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