PACK vs EMPIRE 38-23 Final 4/14

[pmchugh]

Looks like a disappointing result for Empire, maybe you guys shouldn't have brought in that noob lazy lee

[John Deere]

Updated

[peanutsdad]

hhmmmm, i feel for you empire, seems that was about like our score at this point in our war against the pack. But as i said in the thread earlier, i figured pack would pull this out. Of course it's not over yet, but it's not looking good for ya Empire.

[GeneralRisk]

hhmmmm, i feel for you empire, seems that was about like our score at this point in our war against the pack. But as i said in the thread earlier, i figured pack would pull this out. Of course it's not over yet, but it's not looking good for ya Empire.

Many of their top players have jumped ship and gone to tofu so maybe we well face them again in the fall because Kort and TSM appear too wimpy to challenge us and or accept our challenge and thorta is irrelevant.

[Chuuuuck]

actually the amount of coverage really doesnt bother us its you guys waiting till the last minute to take the turns that tends to get on our nerves. we figured you were doing it in round 1 as you were ahead and didnt want us to catch up but it has continued in the following rounds and even when we took the big lead, the games you guys were clealy ahead in you still dragged your feet taking turns. and this isnt for those who were sitted it has been a pattern for all of my games.

This statement made me laugh. Get used to it sniper. All top teams you will ever play on the site will let the turns run down to nearly the end for every turn they take. You haven't played too many top clans yet, but it will happen more and more as you do. Empire is the best clan you've played, all of their players are used to playing at that level and are going to take their time.

[Bruceswar]

hhmmmm, i feel for you empire, seems that was about like our score at this point in our war against the pack. But as i said in the thread earlier, i figured pack would pull this out. Of course it's not over yet, but it's not looking good for ya Empire.

Many of their top players have jumped ship and gone to tofu so maybe we well face them again in the fall because Kort and TSM appear too wimpy to challenge us and or accept our challenge and thorta is irrelevant.

You are surely talking big. You have no idea about THOTA if you think they do not matter. KORT, TSM, THOTA, AOC, LoW, IA, Empire, TOFU, and you guys. We could go round and round at who is best, but on any day any clan can be beat. Empire beat TOFU, We beat Empire, THOTA,... IA took us in a 12 game set... TOFU took AOC... FOED beat IA, which then we beat... LoW played THOTA to a close battle and TSM and THOTA played 2 wars and ended with exactly the same amount of wins and loses.

What I am getting at is the top is soo crowded I would not count anybody out.

P.S. If you think KORT is gonna be easy if and when you play us.. you have another thing coming. IA and Empire are one thing... but KORT is something else

[grifftron]

Then bring it on brucey

[betiko]

hhmmmm, i feel for you empire, seems that was about like our score at this point in our war against the pack. But as i said in the thread earlier, i figured pack would pull this out. Of course it's not over yet, but it's not looking good for ya Empire.

Many of their top players have jumped ship and gone to tofu so maybe we well face them again in the fall because Kort and TSM appear too wimpy to challenge us and or accept our challenge and thorta is irrelevant.

You are surely talking big. You have no idea about THOTA if you think they do not matter. KORT, TSM, THOTA, AOC, LoW, IA, Empire, TOFU, and you guys. We could go round and round at who is best, but on any day any clan can be beat. Empire beat TOFU, We beat Empire, THOTA,... IA took us in a 12 game set... TOFU took AOC... FOED beat IA, which then we beat... LoW played THOTA to a close battle and TSM and THOTA played 2 wars and ended with exactly the same amount of wins and loses.

What I am getting at is the top is soo crowded I would not count anybody out.

P.S. If you think KORT is gonna be easy if and when you play us.. you have another thing coming. IA and Empire are one thing... but KORT is something else

he surely is! thota was the undisputed number 1 till recently from what I know.. anyway there is always cl4 to have some nice mini wars between all of us!

[John Deere]

hhmmmm, i feel for you empire, seems that was about like our score at this point in our war against the pack. But as i said in the thread earlier, i figured pack would pull this out. Of course it's not over yet, but it's not looking good for ya Empire.

Many of their top players have jumped ship and gone to tofu so maybe we well face them again in the fall because Kort and TSM appear too wimpy to challenge us and or accept our challenge and thorta is irrelevant.

You are surely talking big. You have no idea about THOTA if you think they do not matter. KORT, TSM, THOTA, AOC, LoW, IA, Empire, TOFU, and you guys. We could go round and round at who is best, but on any day any clan can be beat. Empire beat TOFU, We beat Empire, THOTA,... IA took us in a 12 game set... TOFU took AOC... FOED beat IA, which then we beat... LoW played THOTA to a close battle and TSM and THOTA played 2 wars and ended with exactly the same amount of wins and loses.

What I am getting at is the top is soo crowded I would not count anybody out.

P.S. If you think KORT is gonna be easy if and when you play us.. you have another thing coming. IA and Empire are one thing... but KORT is something else

Ah Bruce he is doing nothing more than poking the bear But it worked No different than me and you do to each other when we talk.

[Denise]

To those of The Pack who continue to insult me with the "jumped ship" comments:

I don't appreciate it. Insinuating that I have jumped ship is saying, in essence, that I would be cowardly enough to leave my clan because I don't want to be there when they lose. In fact, just the opposite is true. I have been thinking of a change for a long time, but stayed with EMPIRE because of this war. You make me look bad with your comments. I've done my best throughout this entire challenge to keep it fun, friendly, and humorous. This includes ignoring some very inappropriate sexual innuendo directed to Cat and I by smegal69 in game chat. It makes me a little mad that I am getting these insults in return.

Cat and I still being in EMPIRE would not have made a difference in the outcome of this war. Cat is in the last set, and had I stayed for the last set, I would have most probably been in only Pearl Harbor. All the maps used in the last set aren't my strong maps. The great strength of EMPIRE is, and always has been, their depth. They don't have any stars, but many very strong players. I was just 1 part of a strong team, and my exodus is not going to mean much in the long run. EMPIRE is going thru a little slump activity wise, but that happens to all clans. I have every confidence that they will remain a top clan for a long time. This is a complement to the PACK, since in my view you have just beaten a very strong clan.

I am a little different than many other players because I have always been a fan of the PACK. I like your humor, confidence, and enthusiasm. I hope that I won't have to join the masses who dislike your clan, because of your shortsightedness in trying to have some fun.

Congrats on the win. You undoubtedly have earned it and I wish you the best in your next war. Is it FOED?

[Swimmerdude99]

Thanks for the condolences! Back from the frigid... or not so frigid... north Its always good to see the family, just preferably not these circumstances

[John Deere]

Denise, Im sorry you see it as attacks/insults. Nobody in the Pack likes to just piss people off just for the sake of it. We like to have fun and mess around this way sometimes.

I hope that I won't have to join the masses who dislike your clan,

I also hope you dont become so shortsighted....It is amazing how people can ignore all the great things said by our clan (about your clan and others) and just highlight the jokes that where said in good spirit. But to each there own! Abd yes we plan on playing FOED next, they have some things to teach us. Have a good day.

[ljex]

Denise, Im sorry you see it as attacks/insults. Nobody in the Pack likes to just piss people off just for the sake of it. We like to have fun and mess around this way sometimes.

I hope that I won't have to join the masses who dislike your clan,

I also hope you dont become so shortsighted....It is amazing how people can ignore all the great things said by our clan (about your clan and others) and just highlight the jokes that where said in good spirit. But to each there own! Abd yes we plan on playing FOED next, they have some things to teach us. Have a good day.

I have said this already in gd but feel it needs repeating here so every pack member can finally at least have a chance to grasp why it is that other clans don't like them on cc. It is also of note that i know this because of my own personal experiences both on and off the site.

People don't dislike you because you poke fun...they dislike you because you go beyond poking fun in their eyes. Is it really necessary to post about 2 players leaving our clan as an exodus 20-30 times throughout the forums? That becomes more than just poking fun and is why everyone sees you as the villain...some like myself choose to ignore it and move on while others grow to dislike those making the posts.

It is also of note that joking is only joking if the party on the receiving end thinks its joking...

[freakns]

IA and Empire are one thing... but KORT is something else

this is true. in IA and Empire many ppl will take turns for others... in KORT its only Josko who is taking turns for others

It is also of note that joking is only joking if the party on the receiving end thinks its joking...

in other words, if you are prick without sense of humor, ppl can never tell jokes about you?
you may think whatever you like, but Denise brought this to herself. what difference wouldve been if she waited for another 2 weeks, and then joined TOFU? to be honest, it would make me sick even then because i despise clan changing (something which has become so popular in CC community that im waiting to see new medals issued. 3 clans changed for bronze, 5 for silver, 10 for gold, and changing clan during clan war would get you special achievement medal), but im pretty sure overall reactions would be much less unpleasant. im not in this clan war, nor im in any of those two clans, thus i should probably be silent, but since you keep trashing PACK around like they are the bad guys in this whole charade i felt i need to give my 2 cents...
again, no disrespect to Empire or Denise, but she brought it on herself...

[John Deere]

You know the funny thing. You did nothing but talk trash to us in our war thread vs IA, but you are real quit in this one. Its hard to talk trash in this situation isnt it....... Oh and you talking about us taking it to far? Let me throw one of your quotes back at you.

Yes some of my post had belittling remarks, but you can't say they were directed at the pack as a whole because they were directed at specific members.

I truly feel sorry for you! Get some help man!

[ljex]

You know the funny thing. You did nothing but talk trash to us in our war thread vs IA, but you are real quit in this one. Its hard to talk trash in this situation isnt it....... Oh and you talking about us taking it to far? Let me throw one of your quotes back at you.

Yes some of my post had belittling remarks, but you can't say they were directed at the pack as a whole because they were directed at specific members.

I truly feel sorry for you! Get some help man!

It is also of note that i know this because of my own personal experiences both on and off the site.

maybe i should expand upon this to say that in the past my actions as an individual were similar to those of the pack...adding gas to an already blazing fire. I have no doubts you think you are just joking for the most part here...but i can also say as an older sibling i "joked" around with my younger siblings a lot and they never found it quite as funny as i did. It may not be a perfect analogy but the point still stands, its only a joke if everyone involved thinks it is a joke. Its fine if you guys want to continue doing it...i really don't have an issue if you choose to be ass-holes in war threads...my issue is solely with the fact that you constantly bitch and moan about how people don't like you and only see the bad in you as a clan.

also that quote is pulled completely out of context I'm sure if I had a few hours to waste I could find a bunch of places to quote you where in this context it is completely different than your initial intent...

in other words, if you are prick without sense of humor, ppl can never tell jokes about you?

they can still tell jokes...they just cant be surprised when you react in a negative manner towards them.

[army of nobunaga]

get beat like a man and die ljex. Er well just play in more games against these guys and get beat and perpetuate.. this is good reading.

[Sniper08]

maybe i should expand upon this to say that in the past my actions as an individual were similar to those of the pack...adding gas to an already blazing fire. I have no doubts you think you are just joking for the most part here...but i can also say as an older sibling i "joked" around with my younger siblings a lot and they never found it quite as funny as i did. It may not be a perfect analogy but the point still stands, its only a joke if everyone involved thinks it is a joke. Its fine if you guys want to continue doing it...i really don't have an issue if you choose to be ass-holes in war threads...my issue is solely with the fact that you constantly bitch and moan about how people don't like you and only see the bad in you as a clan.

i think because you guys are losing its a lot easier to take the "jokes" in a bad way than it would be if the scores reversed. honestly ive seen far worse war threads and this one hasnt crossed any lines atleast i dont think so. ljex you have been quiet in this war but were very much vocal in our war with IA with many pack members believing you and others were baiting us which resulted in medals not been issued to some of our members so if you look at this situation from a Pack perspective you'll see most of us have been restrained in our posting and not nearly as bad as we could have been.

the whole "jumping ship" thing is funny to us as you guys were expected beat us by most people and now some of your players are leaving, we know it has nothin to do with the war but its still amusing to joke about, im sure if roles reversed you guys would be doing the same thing.

all in all Empire have fought a good war and i enjoyed the games we have played.

[army of nobunaga]

maybe i should expand upon this to say that in the past my actions as an individual were similar to those of the pack...adding gas to an already blazing fire. I have no doubts you think you are just joking for the most part here...but i can also say as an older sibling i "joked" around with my younger siblings a lot and they never found it quite as funny as i did. It may not be a perfect analogy but the point still stands, its only a joke if everyone involved thinks it is a joke. Its fine if you guys want to continue doing it...i really don't have an issue if you choose to be ass-holes in war threads...my issue is solely with the fact that you constantly bitch and moan about how people don't like you and only see the bad in you as a clan.

i think because you guys are losing its a lot easier to take the "jokes" in a bad way than it would be if the scores reversed. honestly ive seen far worse war threads and this one hasnt crossed any lines atleast i dont think so. ljex you have been quiet in this war but were very much vocal in our war with IA with many pack members believing you and others were baiting us which resulted in medals not been issued to some of our members so if you look at this situation from a Pack perspective you'll see most of us have been restrained in our posting and not nearly as bad as we could have been.

the whole "jumping ship" thing is funny to us as you guys were expected beat us by most people and now some of your players are leaving, we know it has nothin to do with the war but its still amusing to joke about, im sure if roles reversed you guys would be doing the same thing.

all in all Empire have fought a good war and i enjoyed the games we have played.

no, in no way are those guys good losers... ljex the king himeslf was losing a speed assassin game and tanked it so a colonel would win rather than me... he cheated. He cannot lose. He cannot lose like a man. And make no mistakes fellas, all men lose- the mark of a man is how well he takes it and how he comes back.


Empire whines. and whines.. get me cheese mother fuckers.

[simmons4]

Denise, Im sorry you see it as attacks/insults. Nobody in the Pack likes to just piss people off just for the sake of it. We like to have fun and mess around this way sometimes.

I hope that I won't have to join the masses who dislike your clan,

I also hope you dont become so shortsighted....It is amazing how people can ignore all the great things said by our clan (about your clan and others) and just highlight the jokes that where said in good spirit. But to each there own! Abd yes we plan on playing FOED next, they have some things to teach us. Have a good day.

stop lying jd i love to piss people off for the sake of it i'm just waiting for someone worth pissing off

[army of nobunaga]

is denise in empire? I am both at the same time shocked an hurt... She is a good player and gracious in loss as well as win. Doesn't belong with that crew of miscreants.

[ljex]

maybe i should expand upon this to say that in the past my actions as an individual were similar to those of the pack...adding gas to an already blazing fire. I have no doubts you think you are just joking for the most part here...but i can also say as an older sibling i "joked" around with my younger siblings a lot and they never found it quite as funny as i did. It may not be a perfect analogy but the point still stands, its only a joke if everyone involved thinks it is a joke. Its fine if you guys want to continue doing it...i really don't have an issue if you choose to be ass-holes in war threads...my issue is solely with the fact that you constantly bitch and moan about how people don't like you and only see the bad in you as a clan.

i think because you guys are losing its a lot easier to take the "jokes" in a bad way than it would be if the scores reversed. honestly ive seen far worse war threads and this one hasnt crossed any lines atleast i dont think so. ljex you have been quiet in this war but were very much vocal in our war with IA with many pack members believing you and others were baiting us which resulted in medals not been issued to some of our members so if you look at this situation from a Pack perspective you'll see most of us have been restrained in our posting and not nearly as bad as we could have been.

the whole "jumping ship" thing is funny to us as you guys were expected beat us by most people and now some of your players are leaving, we know it has nothin to do with the war but its still amusing to joke about, im sure if roles reversed you guys would be doing the same thing.

all in all Empire have fought a good war and i enjoyed the games we have played.

no, in no way are those guys good losers... ljex the king himeslf was losing a speed assassin game and tanked it so a colonel would win rather than me... he cheated. He cannot lose. He cannot lose like a man. And make no mistakes fellas, all men lose- the mark of a man is how well he takes it and how he comes back.


Empire whines. and whines.. get me cheese mother fuckers.

funny thing, you cant even remember the game...i won so how could i have thrown it?

[army of nobunaga]

i can search it up in the cheaters forum I posted it in///

I guess it doesnt matter so much to me. You cheated, I foed you... I moved on with the grudge.

But Ill give you this.. you are a good player, and many times you have showed remorse for cheating in that game towards me.. that is the marks of a guy that could be a great man.


I cheated more than a few times in my life. Each time I grew to be ashamed. I made amends where I could. So I know where you are at.

gl in life bubba, I have no evil will towards you. You and I both know how that game went down and persoanlly I am glad you were not suspended or kicked out of CC. But I do damn well enjoy you and your crappy ass clan getting beat by a buch of guys I know.

[tec805]

We could go round and round at who is best, but on any day any clan can be beat.

Of course. The score wouldn't be this lopsided if Empire had been putting all the effort and attention into the war they would have if RL wasn't getting in their way. We are overdue for a loss and no matter how good or lucky we are we will eventually lose and it will be highly anticlimactic. Of course it will be a little late for the naysayers to come rub it in our face after winning 10 or more straight wars.

Also I must say even though I have ljex foed (so I don't have to read so much blathering) he has really restrained himself in this war. I figured he would be in here every day telling us everything about everything and why we can't possibly win another war.

[ljex]

i can search it up in the cheaters forum I posted it in///

I guess it doesnt matter so much to me. You cheated, I foed you... I moved on with the grudge.

But Ill give you this.. you are a good player, and many times you have showed remorse for cheating in that game towards me.. that is the marks of a guy that could be a great man.


I cheated more than a few times in my life. Each time I grew to be ashamed. I made amends where I could. So I know where you are at.

gl in life bubba, I have no evil will towards you. You and I both know how that game went down and persoanlly I am glad you were not suspended or kicked out of CC. But I do damn well enjoy you and your crappy ass clan getting beat by a buch of guys I know.

havent nor will i ever try to make amends/show remorse for cheating in said game simply because i didnt cheat. there is a clear logic for why everyone made the moves they did in that game and you just dont get it. Its not like you were going to win anyway...you were out of reach from your target.