It all depends on who you listen to, most (def not all) mainstream rap these days is pablum, but beneath the Lil' Jons of the world lie an extroardinarily intelligent underground hip/hop scene.
/trying to get into underground hip-hop.
Ron starys through the walls of flame, and stares around, dumbfounded, at all the normal people around, and he hears no swearing.
'Where am I?' he gasps, and stumbles around, scared.
'Need help?' says a helpful CCer, but Ron pushes him away, as if asking for help was the highest sin.
'GFY.' he shoutes, and walkes back through the wall of Flames.
'Home sweet home.'
Alexwales93 wrote:Ron starys through the walls of flame, and stares around, dumbfounded, at all the normal people around, and he hears no swearing. 'Where am I?' he gasps, and stumbles around, scared. 'Need help?' says a helpful CCer, but Ron pushes him away, as if asking for help was the highest sin. 'GFY.' he shoutes, and walkes back through the wall of Flames. 'Home sweet home.'
LOL!! yeah something like that. But serious Rap is actually really good, lyrics from most rappers come from the heart, on real experiances, you sometimes have to look past the clothes and hype that they come with.
*drifts back to the flame wars, ahhhh this is better*
Alexwales93 wrote:Ron starys through the walls of flame, and stares around, dumbfounded, at all the normal people around, and he hears no swearing. 'Where am I?' he gasps, and stumbles around, scared. 'Need help?' says a helpful CCer, but Ron pushes him away, as if asking for help was the highest sin. 'GFY.' he shoutes, and walkes back through the wall of Flames. 'Home sweet home.'
LOL!! yeah something like that. But serious Rap is actually really good, lyrics from most rappers come from the heart, on real experiances, you sometimes have to look past the clothes and hype that they come with.
*drifts back to the flame wars, ahhhh this is better*
I'm gonna weigh in here as a hip-hop DJ and producer and defend my lifes passion.
Underground rap is intelligent, political, musical, poetic... it can evoke any emotion you care to name... it can open your eyes to myriad subjects you never considered before... its taken me around the world, given me a passion and a job...
What most of the posters in this thread refer to as 'rap' is most likely commercial American rap. Basically, its like saying 'I hate all guitar music because I just listened to Avril Levine and it sucks ass!' Rapping is simply a lyrical tool. There are more genres than I'd care to name, really, and 85% of them don't get airplay.
If people are looking at getting into undergound rap, firstly I'd 100% recommend the Indiefeed Hip-Hop Podcast (just type it into Itunes). Every few days they give you a new track from underground hip-hop artists, and I can't tell you how many dope MCs and producers I've discovered through it.
As for modern (as opposed to old school) artists I'm feeling at the moment...
In the US check out Masta Ace, El-P, Talib Kweli, immortal technique, Butta Verses, Aceyalone, Cunninglynguists, Punchline & Wordsworth, Leak bros, Jedi Mind Tricks, The Roots, Rasco, Asamov,
And for the classics: De La Soul, Tribe Called Quest, Souls of Mischief, Main Source, Brand Nubian, Pharcyde, Heiroglyphics, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Wu Tang Clan, Lords of the Underground, KRS-One, Mos Def, Big L, Gangstarr, Jeru Tha Damaja...
And in the UK: Klashnekoff, Terra Firma crew, Jehst, Yungun, Rodney P, Braintax, Broke'n'English, Foreign Beggars, Joe Buddah (a producer), Lewis Parker, Phoenix Quarter, Plan B, Skinnyman, Roots Manuva, Skitz, Sway, Taskforce, Verb T & Harry Love...
qwert wrote:Can i ask you something?What is porpose for you to open these Political topic in ConquerClub? Why you mix politic with Risk? Why you not open topic like HOT AND SEXY,or something like that.