lackattack, gettinhead, cheap conquerors & other bull & such

[oVo]

I only find it's lack of originality and charm offensive
to the more ignorant aspects of my intelligence.

[jj3044]

I find the Wal Mart analogy absolutely ludicrous by the way...

But, if we CAN take a positive out of this thread, I think it would be the suggestions for the revamped scoreboard. I think that is a great idea. Have one of the creators of the idea posted it in the suggestions forum? I'll have to go check.

[WILLIAMS5232]

#4) he really enjoys being the most popular username on CC

Popular username to who? Seems embarrassingly juvenile to anyone but pre-teens to me.
or did I miss the sarcasm of your post?

i was just making a point that we're all just nobodies anyway. beyond this site, being conquerer does not mean a whole lot. i mean who drives around with a bumper sticker stating their cc rank.
please if anyone does, don't take offense. i didn't mean it like that.
really i did mean it that way.

i'm glad i found the site though, my global geography knowledge has grown tenfold. although i was pretty knowlegable of the US 48, i was completely ignorant to Europe and the middle east. also Australia, the pacific region, and even south America. of course there is still alot i don't know, i can easily identify where a country is on the globe making me look so much smarter. plus i get to interact with different people from around the world learning little nuances and things that i may have never experienced. that's a lot of stuff for 25 bucks a year. even though i'm beginning to get so tired of this game.

also i can't help but give a quick thought on the whole walmart issue.

i've been to the dried up small towns that walmart has "enhanced' and "made better". they've taken away any type of culture that was there before. no one in a small town can compete with that company unless they sell horse manure. ( because that's about all walmart don't sell ) i don't care how many harvard educated scholars have written a paper on the benefits that it brings. you, or they will never convince my feeble mind that it does any sort of good to a community. if you want a walmart in houston or dallas, or chicago... fine. put it there and shop you're little heart out for all i care. it's one thing to get a start in a small town and move on to bigger things, but now that they hold a global market is there really any point in moving a new walmart in to a town with less than 5000 people. just so it's local business's can be destroyed. in my opinion there are two things that will destroy this country or at least it's quality of life, 1, is credit cards. the second is walmart.

Also, Wal-Mart doesn't discriminate against its customers--unlike many small-town cafes and stores in the South.

people discriminate, whether they work at walmart or joes cafe. that's not a fair assumption to make unless you've been to many of the small town cafe's and stores in the south. you yourself are discriminating the non discriminatory stores of the south. which i guess i could say that most bigballinstallins that's i've ever heard of discriminate. i guess since i'm Caucasian, which i'm sure is the race you are claiming to be doing the discriminating, I've never been exposed to all this discriminating. but being a resident of the south, i'd say i've been to several small town cafe's and stores. but that's less than one percent i'm sure. so for me to say i've been to many of them would be wrong. i think the word you should use is "some" because i've been to "some" small town cafe's and stores up north. and they too look like the discriminatory type. even though i have not been discriminated against there as well. i have been to some "other" race establishments in the south and as a Caucasian have felt discriminated against. but i've also been to some where i wasn't. i think alot of it has to do with the attitude you walk around with. if you walk around feeling like you are being discriminated against, then you most likely are going to be. probably because you are discriminating from the start causing a bad vibe to those that you feel would be your discriminators who feel your uneasiness and also in turn feel you are discriminating them, making an uncomfortable situation. and a sort of no win discriminatory vibe. but if you walk in with an upbeat vibe that says to the same people that "No, i don't feel like you are discriminating me even though i'm not the same race as you" then you may find that suprsingly those people will be very nice to you. too many times i see people just being rude to each other like "hey, you put 3 tomatoes on his sandwich and only 2 on mine. you're discriminating against me" when really, the person wasn't really counting the tomatoes in the first place, but this little comment really strikes a bad vibe and does nothing but cause tension the rest of the time. in fairness, i do know that there is some establishments that are very discriminatory, but i would say that it's actually alot less than what most people not from the south would know. the ones i know of are such a small percentage of the ones that i know, it's really a big misconception in my mind. just my 33 years of life i've seen quite a swing. so if you're determining all of this off of what people tell you they read, i think you may be surprised if yuu actually go to some southern small towns. of course i don't think the issue will ever go away, mainly due to ignorance and insecurity from both sides. i just think that statements like that don't help anything. it's like trying sardines once and telling everyone you hate all fish. ( i like sardines though, i just know most people don't )

personally i don't get offended when if i feel discriminated against. i just don't go back. even though i rarely feel discriminated against. probably because i discriminate the places i go in the first place. but i think we all do that anyway.

[eggrollonedolla]

On a side note to try and not take anything away from williams post but....

you sir are a pig. so you should not be offended easily! *oink! *oink!

[niMic]

[WILLIAMS5232]

them dang Caucasian kids at it again,

[BigBallinStalin]

Also, Wal-Mart doesn't discriminate against its customers--unlike many small-town cafes and stores in the South.

people discriminate, whether they work at walmart or joes cafe. that's not a fair assumption to make unless you've been to many of the small town cafe's and stores in the south. you yourself are discriminating the non discriminatory stores of the south. which i guess i could say that most bigballinstallins that's i've ever heard of discriminate. i guess since i'm Caucasian, which i'm sure is the race you are claiming to be doing the discriminating, I've never been exposed to all this discriminating. but being a resident of the south, i'd say i've been to several small town cafe's and stores. but that's less than one percent i'm sure. so for me to say i've been to many of them would be wrong. i think the word you should use is "some" because i've been to "some" small town cafe's and stores up north. and they too look like the discriminatory type. even though i have not been discriminated against there as well. i have been to some "other" race establishments in the south and as a Caucasian have felt discriminated against. but i've also been to some where i wasn't. i think alot of it has to do with the attitude you walk around with. if you walk around feeling like you are being discriminated against, then you most likely are going to be. probably because you are discriminating from the start causing a bad vibe to those that you feel would be your discriminators who feel your uneasiness and also in turn feel you are discriminating them, making an uncomfortable situation. and a sort of no win discriminatory vibe. but if you walk in with an upbeat vibe that says to the same people that "No, i don't feel like you are discriminating me even though i'm not the same race as you" then you may find that suprsingly those people will be very nice to you. too many times i see people just being rude to each other like "hey, you put 3 tomatoes on his sandwich and only 2 on mine. you're discriminating against me" when really, the person wasn't really counting the tomatoes in the first place, but this little comment really strikes a bad vibe and does nothing but cause tension the rest of the time. in fairness, i do know that there is some establishments that are very discriminatory, but i would say that it's actually alot less than what most people not from the south would know. the ones i know of are such a small percentage of the ones that i know, it's really a big misconception in my mind. just my 33 years of life i've seen quite a swing. so if you're determining all of this off of what people tell you they read, i think you may be surprised if yuu actually go to some southern small towns. of course i don't think the issue will ever go away, mainly due to ignorance and insecurity from both sides. i just think that statements like that don't help anything. it's like trying sardines once and telling everyone you hate all fish. ( i like sardines though, i just know most people don't )

personally i don't get offended when if i feel discriminated against. i just don't go back. even though i rarely feel discriminated against. probably because i discriminate the places i go in the first place. but i think we all do that anyway.

If you think discrimination means refusing to engage in a transaction, then okay.

When I use discrimination for Wal-Mart and many stores in the south, it refers to refusing to engage in a transaction with someone due to his skin color. Wal-Mart doesn't refuse its offers to people due to their skin color. They don't care what your skin color is.

Many places in the South still discriminate against people based on the color of their skin. That's just how it is. How many places still do this? I'm not sure, but it is certainly some amount of stores. Wal-Mart doesn't discriminate against its customers, which expands the opportunities for people who don't have access to certain goods that are provided by racist owners/managers.


This is getting off-topic, so you can PM me or start a thread in OT if you want.

[fusibaseball]

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[Gen.LeeGettinhed]

Agree with Original Post

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[lynch5762]

dear Mr Lack,

I'd like to submit another analogy for you to consider before doing anything too drastic. Earlier I compared Ranching to the automobile industry. Now I'd like to take a minute and compare to. . .the retail industry:

For years Walmart never competed with "the big boys" of Sears, JC Penny and Kmart (the big 3). They started out building up strength in towns considered just too small for The Big 3. Then once they collected enough critical mass, they entered the major metropolitan areas and competed head on with the The Big 3. Eventually the Big 3 imploded -- beaten at the retail game by a new-start with an ear to THE CONSUMER. Walmart gave people convenient stores, 24 hour service and low prices -- that helped keep US inflation low for decades.

Similarities:
-complainers: either Big 3, or NeimanMarcus/Bloomingdales types that are out of touch with the consumer
-Walmart: GLG and opportunities for the consumer
-low prices: 4-5 point games -- instead of 20 pts
-metropolitan areas: quitting playing cooks, then cadets, then. . .

Again, the focus seems to be on the net result. While I disagree that RANCHING is a "cheap tactic", CC has far worse processes. Please look just as closely at:
-Clickable Maps -- that allow FASTER players to wipe out slower ones on FS, and dominate Battle Royalee, etc.
-teams of 3v3/4v4 that use their experience/communication/teamwork to beat "unsuspecting newer players"
. . .those are just a few

There is a reason Caveat Emptor is a hallmark motto of capitalism. And I'm amazed that management seems to admit they are about to control situations they haven't even played in, based on input from The Money Changers.

Look for next analogy: British ships vs Spanish ships in The Spanish Armada

Ummmmm... Nope but nice try. I was going to leave this a lone but... well I just can't

You are trying to compare the world's largest retailer to an internet gaming site and the type of play within it? I have heard it all now!

First of all, your analogy makes no sense whatsoever and is also factually incorrect.

For years Walmart never competed with "the big boys" of Sears, JC Penny and Kmart (the big 3). They started out building up strength in towns considered just too small for The Big 3.

Well of course Wal-Mart didn't compete with the so called big 3 at first because they had already been in business for 60 years and Sam Walton was an exec that left J C Penny to go on his own. That being said, his business plan had nothing to do with picking on mom and pop stores, rather he went right for the jugular of the so called big 3.. Within 17 years, Wal-Mart had gone public and started buying out brand names that routinely sold their product to the "big 3" thus giving them an edge and by 1990 they had surpassed all sales of the big 3 you mentioned combined. This means that within 30 years they accomplished something that the others could not in 90 years

Oh for crying out loud... why the heck am I even wasting my time with this garbage.

never mind... nothing to see here

[KraphtOne]

As for a REAL discussion... if someone is born deaf, in what language do they think? consider your f*ckin mind blown...

[oVo]

As for a REAL discussion... if someone is born deaf, in what language do they think? consider your f*ckin mind blown...

Are you insinuating that if someone grows up with no sense of fair play
that expectations of them here should be no different?

[natty dread]

As for a REAL discussion... if someone is born deaf, in what language do they think? consider your f*ckin mind blown...

Sign language?

[oVo]

Sign language?

They might as well write it down eh?

[Gen.LeeGettinhed]

demonfork,

NOT looking to add another 3-10 pages of Flaming/baiting from the J's, but Isn't it sort of ludicrous:
1) to Warn someone for a Major Infraction the day the "new rule" comes in effect -- in effect Grandfathering the warning?
2) to close down a thread for Flaming -- but NOT punish the flamers?
3) then to Enforece unwritten rules, but not enforce long standing rules

Somebody explain ALL three of those, and MAYBE this site will start making a lil sense.

GLG

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[QoH]

2) to close down a thread for Flaming -- but NOT punish the flamers?

This would involve you getting a punishment as well.

[Pedronicus]

Punish the flamers! For the love of all things holy, punish the flamers. (was I flaming?)

[jordy2425]

For all the people who are upset with GLG's game style and inviting of lower ranks to games.
Why don't yall start your own games and invite him....be interesting to see how many he accepts ???? Also be interesting to see how many people actually send invites too.

[QoH]

For all the people who are upset with GLG's game style and inviting of lower ranks to games.
Why don't yall start your own games and invite him....be interesting to see how many he accepts ???? Also be interesting to see how many people actually send invites too.

Game 10845557

Done. Invited him.

[army of nobunaga]

I still think that post of mine was one of the better in CC history.


page 5 was it... perfectly put/.

[b00060]

whether is farming, abusing, ranching, bogrolling, specializing, or whatever you want to call it, the conqueror rank will never be achieved by a person that plays any map and any setting against any opponent.

i don't care how good you are. i don't care if you're a fricking risk genius. you will NEVER get to #1 unless you resort to farming/abusing/ranching/bogrolling/specializing/etc.
this is actually the main problem of this site and its ranking system.

only 2 things can be done:

1. change the scoring formula to one that takes into account map/settings experience/proficiency and actively discourages farming/abusing/ranching/bogrolling/specializing/etc.

2. multiple scoreboards for 1v1/dubs/trips/quads/freestyle/etc. plus an overall scoreboard that's the arithmetic mean of all other scoreboards.
this basically means that players can specialize in whatever they want and farm/abuse/ranch/etc all they want but they'll never get #1 on the overall scoreboard. GLG for instance would rule the 1v1 scoreboard and be the leader there but assuming he's have modest scores in all the other scoreboards, he's would probably be nowhere near the top on the overall scoreboard.
only the people who truly master all the maps and all the settings will get to be on top of the overall scoreboard.



PS: i'm not saying it's an easy thing to use "cheap" tactics. hell no. it takes a lot of work and dedication and a certain kind of skill that frankly most of the people would not be capable of even if they wanted to.
the problem is that because of such "cheap" tactics an all-rounder will never be more than colonel/brigadier.

Yep

[lynch5762]

whether is farming, abusing, ranching, bogrolling, specializing, or whatever you want to call it, the conqueror rank will never be achieved by a person that plays any map and any setting against any opponent.

i don't care how good you are. i don't care if you're a fricking risk genius. you will NEVER get to #1 unless you resort to farming/abusing/ranching/bogrolling/specializing/etc.
this is actually the main problem of this site and its ranking system.

only 2 things can be done:

1. change the scoring formula to one that takes into account map/settings experience/proficiency and actively discourages farming/abusing/ranching/bogrolling/specializing/etc.

2. multiple scoreboards for 1v1/dubs/trips/quads/freestyle/etc. plus an overall scoreboard that's the arithmetic mean of all other scoreboards.
this basically means that players can specialize in whatever they want and farm/abuse/ranch/etc all they want but they'll never get #1 on the overall scoreboard. GLG for instance would rule the 1v1 scoreboard and be the leader there but assuming he's have modest scores in all the other scoreboards, he's would probably be nowhere near the top on the overall scoreboard.
only the people who truly master all the maps and all the settings will get to be on top of the overall scoreboard.



PS: i'm not saying it's an easy thing to use "cheap" tactics. hell no. it takes a lot of work and dedication and a certain kind of skill that frankly most of the people would not be capable of even if they wanted to.
the problem is that because of such "cheap" tactics an all-rounder will never be more than colonel/brigadier.

Yep

+2.... Sorry but i have to push my "relative rank" scoring system one last time.