Dazza's 1st Mafia - Mafia Win

by **Iron Butterfly** on Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:45 pm

codierose wrote:wow lets slow down a bit what about pershy since the battle royal between you two started he's gone under ground he was in the hot seat now it seems everyone has forgot about him he also didn't vote.

You can only focus on one person at a time. I beleive Mob is guity as well. Seems like anytime we put pressure on someone someone thinks we should look somewhere else.

Neb hammers Cat. Neb shouts Great job when tenbar gets a kill to take the focus off him. He tells you not investigate because hes one of the good guys you can trust PLUS your results may be tainted because he fears he might be framed, even though we have not yet discovered a framer.

The evidence is there for me.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm

Okay. So we should have enough voting information to figure something out, right? Here’s a summary.

Vote Count

Ragian(1) - wildwilliam
wildwilliam(7) - pershy, Nebuchadnezer, codierose, tenbar, edocsil, Iron Butterfly, catnipdreams Lynched

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Thats a lynch. Silence please. Scene coming asap.

So, we have 5 townies. Basically, only one “other” vote here…Pershy. And of course me (you’ll notice my 100% voting intelligence)

Vote Count

codierose(5) - pershy, soundman, tenbar, catnipdreams, Iron Butterfly L-1
pershy(1) - Nebuchadnezer
catnipdreams(2) - MoB Deadly, codierose

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Pershy was the first one to unvote. But here we have 2 “other” votes on our COP. Very interesting. Pershy and Soundman.

Vote Count

codierose(1) - catnipdreams
pershy(1) - Djfireside
catnipdreams(5) - MoB Deadly, codierose, pershy, soundman, tenbar, Nebuchadnezer Lynch

Ugh…I’m in on another lynch…but this one has 3 “other” voters. Worth noting that Pershy and soundman flipped from Cat, while MoB jumped on cat early.

Vote Count

Iron Butterfly(4) - pershy, MoB Deadly, Nebuchadnezer, codierose L-1
pershy(1) - tenbar

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Here is another with pershy and MoB.

Vote Count

Some7hingCLEVER(5) Nebuchadnezer, codierose, soundman, tenbar, MoB Deadly Lynch

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Another stupendous choice by yours truly. Soundman and MoB again…

Also worth noting is that djfireside has managed to only ever vote 1 time. Once in the entire game? Is that normal? Is this the absolute submarining?

I won’t draw any conclusions as mine have been terribly wrong…but there is some info.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:15 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
codierose wrote:wow lets slow down a bit what about pershy since the battle royal between you two started he's gone under ground he was in the hot seat now it seems everyone has forgot about him he also didn't vote.

You can only focus on one person at a time. I beleive Mob is guity as well. Seems like anytime we put pressure on someone someone thinks we should look somewhere else.

Neb hammers Cat. Neb shouts Great job when tenbar gets a kill to take the focus off him. He tells you not investigate because hes one of the good guys you can trust PLUS your results may be tainted because he fears he might be framed, even though we have not yet discovered a framer.

The evidence is there for me.

You do seem to forget who saved our Cop from getting lynched. When you were all so convinced he was lying, I was the one to step in and fight for him. And seriously, you're clinging to the "he told codierose to not investigate him" arguement? Do you think Codie isn't smart enough to investigate whoever he wants? You really think my statement stopped him from investigating me? You don't give codie enough credit, IB. And yes, if Cat came up town, framer was the only possibility, wasn't it?

codierose wrote:wow lets slow down a bit what about pershy since the battle royal between you two started he's gone under ground he was in the hot seat now it seems everyone has forgot about him he also didn't vote.

And yes, if Cat came up town, framer was the only possibility, wasn't it?

by **soundman** on Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:48 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
codierose wrote:wow lets slow down a bit what about pershy since the battle royal between you two started he's gone under ground he was in the hot seat now it seems everyone has forgot about him he also didn't vote.

You can only focus on one person at a time. I beleive Mob is guity as well. Seems like anytime we put pressure on someone someone thinks we should look somewhere else.

Neb hammers Cat. Neb shouts Great job when tenbar gets a kill to take the focus off him. He tells you not investigate because hes one of the good guys you can trust PLUS your results may be tainted because he fears he might be framed, even though we have not yet discovered a framer.

The evidence is there for me.

You do seem to forget who saved our Cop from getting lynched. When you were all so convinced he was lying, I was the one to step in and fight for him. And seriously, you're clinging to the "he told codierose to not investigate him" arguement? Do you think Codie isn't smart enough to investigate whoever he wants? You really think my statement stopped him from investigating me? You don't give codie enough credit, IB. And yes, if Cat came up town, framer was the only possibility, wasn't it?

codierose wrote:wow lets slow down a bit what about pershy since the battle royal between you two started he's gone under ground he was in the hot seat now it seems everyone has forgot about him he also didn't vote.

And yes, if Cat came up town, framer was the only possibility, wasn't it?

No, it could have been the busdriver. If he had switched a mafia and townie then the cop would have gotten the wrong result. Though now we know that it was indeed a framer because one came up dead.
I think the only one really convinced Codie was lying was IB. Bad choice on his part? Or is he mafia? Since Codie got an innocent result last night I'm going to assume that it was just a mess up and not scum.
Dj has been really quiet, on the level of submarining. And I think Pershy has been a little scummy throughout this game. But I think we need to resolve the other cases before looking at them.
Looking at Neb and Mob, I think IB may be onto something. Notice on Neb's vote count post, him and Mob are on both Some7 and Cat's lynch and both were on IB when he was put at L1. Yet like IB said they don't seem to be supporting each other in their posts but do seem to be going after the same things. Seems to me IB is right and they are trying to get a lynch without associating themselves with each other. At this point I'm with IB, Vote Neb.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:01 pm

Well, you guys let me know when you want me to claim, it doesn't seem as though I'm getting through on any of my arguments...just please do NOT put me at L-1.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:08 pm

The mafia are laughing so hard right now... :cry:

by **codierose** on Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:17 pm

looks like you got no choice
im not going to vote for you just yet im not convinced far to vocal only problem i had with you is when you started with IB you made it easy for the pressure to come of pershy. Was not so long ago everyone had me cat and pershy on there list of scum even IB
cat been cleared joat
im cop
what is pershy?? Out of three what's the chances all of us being town

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:25 pm

Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, I was simply responding to IB's attacks on me. I'm pretty sure I never actually put a case together against him. Don't blame me for IB's insistance on outting me.

IB. Since you are so sure that MoB and I are mafia...let's lynch MoB first. You can always come back to me tomorrow. After all, if he's mafia, then you should easily have me dead to rights and get off with an easy win Day 5, right?

by **Iron Butterfly** on Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:30 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Well, you guys let me know when you want me to claim, it doesn't seem as though I'm getting through on any of my arguments...just please do NOT put me at L-1.

I will give you the benifit of the doubt for now. Here is why. We went into night time before I had a chance to post amd clever got lynched.

My first thought was, Several folk implied that because we were arguing one of us must be mafia while the other towm. It could have just as easily been two town fighting while being egged on.

You did protect the cop when we easily could have lynched.

Unvote Vote Mob

Mob has been my first choice for a long time. I will confess that part of me wanted to tear into Neb for a variety of reasons and do so saved my ass. I however have always had mob top of my list.

We have two possibly three mafia still out there. Plus he said that if I turn up Town we could lynch him :lol:

by **codierose** on Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:34 pm

thats good enough for me but i want to start with pershy tomorrow
vote mob

by **dazza2008** on Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:09 am

Vote Count

Nebuchadnezer(1) - soundman
MoB Deadly(2) - Iron Butterfly, codierose

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

by **Djfireside** on Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:01 am

Sorry I was out of town for the weekend and now just catching up but for a while I did think MoB had a bit of scummyness to him. However to first counter the accusation on me, Not voting is not submarining, its discussing. If you read back through I was at the forefront of most of the conversation and since we have lynched all townies, Obviously that would speak something more for me since if I was mafia I should have gone for the kills..

Im not going to L-1 Mob, but I would like to see their response.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:49 am

Djfireside wrote:Sorry I was out of town for the weekend and now just catching up but for a while I did think MoB had a bit of scummyness to him. However to first counter the accusation on me, Not voting is not submarining, its discussing. If you read back through I was at the forefront of most of the conversation and since we have lynched all townies, Obviously that would speak something more for me since if I was mafia I should have gone for the kills..

Im not going to L-1 Mob, but I would like to see their response.

Not voting does not equate to innocence.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:18 am

Djfireside wrote:Im going to go off on my thoughts here. It appears that really just a few of us are fighting amongst ourselves. Based on logic I think that you both could very well be innocent and i think this point is a dead end based on logic. Now that the framer is dead Im willing to give codie a pass to see what happens, IB makes a point that he could have gotten caught in the whirlwind like Cat. I think im going to table the two of you for the time being and move back to older points as I think most of the mafia is submarining just letting us go at each other so time to stir up the waters.

This was the last post you made. While it looks good and sounds like a man of action you completly fall off the radar. You fo nothing to follow up or help Town.

Now you pop up again to not vote someone we think is scum and you once again offer nothing of substance.

Your MO had been to appear every 3 days or so, toss out a few quotes that sound helpful but offer no substance.

So yes you have been submarining. I dont know when your weekend starts but mine does not start on a wedsday, which was your last post.

by **Djfireside** on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:31 pm

You are right I have been lax with the voting and I was wavering because I missed something stated earlier in the day. Ill turn that around now.

by **Djfireside** on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:33 pm

vote mobDeadly

Overall just seems to be hiding the shadows, much like I have been accused of based on my voting and while that could be viewed however once wishes but I do think mob is bad news or just overwhlemed. Either way gets my vote and forced to speak up.

by **codierose** on Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:58 pm

mob needs to claim hes on l1

by **pershy** on Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:39 pm

Yup

OK I was away yesterday and lots has gone on since.
Good one Neb for your vote count list. Very helpful. This doesn't assure me of your innocence though especially as you keep mentioning me. And was it you that said my vote on WW was an OMGUS vote? I think it was I'll have to check but that's bull. I had a feeling about him from the way he acted from the beginning. Thought he was scum though. And as you kindly pointed out I was the first to unvote our cop. He was at L-1 so I'll take the credit for saving him thank you very much.

Talking about our cop - seems he's got his eye on me. All I can say is - great that prove to be sane and now you can use your powers of investigation wisely without fear of hindrance. So do so on me if you must. You were the one who pointed out that I didn't vote our bus driver - that's because I was using caution which is very necessary as our numbers are diminishing, and ignore the fact that I defended you when you were on the brink of being lynched so I find it odd that you suspect me.

FOS - soundman for saying I've been acting scummy without backing up and ignoring all the investigative posts I've put in when I've managed to.

Good point about DJ not having voted. Could he be laying low and letting town rip itself apart as has been suggested?

Looks like we're onto something with mob. Let's see what he says and what transcurs.

I think it's also very interesting as has been mentioned to see if there are any pairs of people who don't mention each other. We have candidates already. And enough history of chat now to be able to do some serious deducing.

by **pershy** on Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:41 pm

Good to see DJ is pulling his thumb out now.
If Mob flips mafia I think we will have a lot to go on as to who his partner must be, assuming there are 2 mafia left which I'm pretty sure there are as we also had a poisoner.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:43 pm

Neb get that hammer ready.

In the last 7 days Mob has made 38 posts in the mafia forums. 7 of them here. Several of them basicly say nothing.

the big thing is that he takes his vote off of me and hammers Clever for submarining.

He hasnt contibuted anything to the discussion except to offer commentary on Neb abd I's fight. He does however have no problem hammering Clever as a walkon. He couldnt get me so he hammered the sure thing.

by **soundman** on Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:20 pm

Nice to have you back Dj. Now we just need Mob to come in here and claim. My vote stays on Neb, if we don't lynch Mob then he's a good next target. Unless Pershy would be a better option? No need to go into that now though.

by **pershy** on Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:07 am

give it a rest.... :cry:

I'm ready to hammer later today if everyone has chipped in.

by **dazza2008** on Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:19 pm

Vote Count

Nebuchadnezer(1) - soundman
MoB Deadly(3) - Iron Butterfly, codierose, Djfireside L-1

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

by **codierose** on Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:28 pm

dazz could you give mob a prod please

by **dazza2008** on Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:32 pm

codierose wrote:dazz could you give mob a prod please

Prodded.

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