Final Fantasy VII Mafia - Shinra Corporation and Elena win

[DoomYoshi]

Unvote vote wildwilliam

[Rodion]

Vote Count

1. drunkmonkey -
2. edocsil
3. Commander9
4. DoomYoshi - wildwilliam
5. killboy108 - ???
6. strike wolf
7. Victor Sullivan
8. alt1978
9. VioIet - alt1978
10. drake_259
11. maximumbandit
12. Djfireside - thehippo8
13. wildwilliam - edocsil, dazza2008, Commander9, DoomYoshi (L-9)
14. zimmah - Victor Sullivan
15. MOB Deadly
16. thehippo8 - Violet
17. agentcom - killboy108
18. new guy1
19. ghostly447 - drunkmonkey
20. jgordon1111 - strike wolf
21. Dukasaur
22. Eldario
23. slowreactor -
24. dazza2008 -
25. chapcrap

Remember to unvote before you vote again.

With 25 alive, it takes 13 to lynch.

Hard deadline at january 9th, noon (EST).

Remember to unvote before you vote again!

[zimmah]

i'm not really sure about this whole wildwilliam case but time is running short and we need to do something

unvote vote wildwilliam

[Djfireside]

WW seems to stay steadfast on his call against DY. Im not yet ready to join the bandwagon although based on how these work we need something to happen so we can start filtering through who choose what side and how everything played through. He did seem to get up in arms as his fire post went but could just be the reaction they would give. I dont see points either way but thats cause as stated before nothing has happened? Anyone have any Haste Materia? Would be nice about now... or maybe Time...

[Eldario]

I'm leaning towards voting wildwilliam but think I will hold my vote at least until tomorrow so I can double check the posts

[ghostly447]

Not prepared to put a vote on WW, but I do agree some pressure should be applied since its almost time up.

[jgordon1111]

WW answers are being called for.Some of them may not know you have a hard head and not very reasonable.so kindly explain so we can all go forth and kill scum,if scum you are not. I know vote jgordon,be it as it may I will stand the same as last game WW.

[MoB Deadly]

I find it odd that William with his first post, only posts a one liner against Doom, then we say something about it, now its like he completely flipped and is highly defensive, shouting in caps and in large font. I find it odd he goes from one extreme to another

Not much to go off, this is one of our only leads.

unvote vote wildwilliam

[chapcrap]

unvote vote wild

In my last post I said that I thought he went a little crazy. He has posted since and hasn't done anything to try to defend himself.

[thehippo8]

Sporadic internet for the next week before I get home on Saturday next week (that's Friday for the rest of thed world as I am a time traveller from the other side of the date-line!)

I've caught up and noted that vio's vote on william hasn't been counted - maybe she forgot to unvote?

Anyway, I agree that the cases against doom and ghost aren't going anywhere.

unvote vote wildwilliam - why are you brushing off the case against you?

[Rodion]

Vote Count

1. drunkmonkey -
2. edocsil
3. Commander9
4. DoomYoshi - wildwilliam
5. killboy108 - ???
6. strike wolf
7. Victor Sullivan
8. alt1978
9. VioIet - alt1978
10. drake_259
11. maximumbandit
12. Djfireside
13. wildwilliam - edocsil, dazza2008, Commander9, DoomYoshi, zimmah, MOB Deadly, chapcrap, thehippo8 (L-5)
14. zimmah - Victor Sullivan
15. MOB Deadly
16. thehippo8 - Violet
17. agentcom - killboy108
18. new guy1
19. ghostly447 - drunkmonkey
20. jgordon1111 - strike wolf
21. Dukasaur
22. Eldario
23. slowreactor -
24. dazza2008 -
25. chapcrap

Remember to unvote before you vote again.

With 25 alive, it takes 13 to lynch.

Hard deadline at january 9th, noon (EST).

Remember to unvote before you vote again!

[VioIet]

my vote remains where it is.

You aren't doing much to defend yourself. You have given a great amount of effort in my Clue game. Not sure why your play here seems to be so different.

Sporadic internet for the next week before I get home on Saturday next week (that's Friday for the rest of thed world as I am a time traveller from the other side of the date-line!)

I've caught up and noted that vio's vote on william hasn't been counted - maybe she forgot to unvote?

Anyway, I agree that the cases against doom and ghost aren't going anywhere.

unvote vote wildwilliam - why are you brushing off the case against you?

I hadn't actually voted wildwilliam until now. I had just FOS'd him.

Vote wildwilliam

[drake_259]

william, i believe its time for a claim.

[wildwilliam]

william, i believe its time for a claim.

I believe you are fishing. not even 1/2 the players in this game have voted for me. I am at L-4, not close enough to claim for me.

[wildwilliam]

I got a better Idea, lets start a list to create more activity in this game since we can't get enough pressure to get someone to claim. Here is it: Please state why you have your vote where it is or why you have not voted at all. A failure to participate or if you do not like this idea, especially since it will generate more talking and discussion you will certainly be pegged as scum.

Ready, Set, Go!

1. drunkmonkey
2. edocsil
3. Commander9
4. DoomYoshi
5. killboy108
6. strike wolf
7. Victor Sullivan
8. alt1978
9. VioIet
10. drake_259
11. maximumbandit
12. Djfireside
13. wildwilliam
14. zimmah
15. MOB Deadly
16. thehippo8
17. agentcom
18. new guy1
19. ghostly447
20. Master Bush
21. Dukasaur
22. Eldario
23. slowreactor
24. dazza2008
25. chapcrap

[dazza2008]

william, i believe its time for a claim.

I believe you are fishing. not even 1/2 the players in this game have voted for me. I am at L-4, not close enough to claim for me.

I kind of agree with Drake.

The deadline is very close. We will struggle to discuss your claim if we leave it too late and you could be lynched quick at the deadline. If you are town I would claim soon. If scum then just keep wasting time.

[wildwilliam]

william, i believe its time for a claim.

I believe you are fishing. not even 1/2 the players in this game have voted for me. I am at L-4, not close enough to claim for me.

I kind of agree with Drake.

The deadline is very close. We will struggle to discuss your claim if we leave it too late and you could be lynched quick at the deadline. If you are town I would claim soon. If scum then just keep wasting time.

I am not even close to a lynch. make a better case and get more votes.

[drunkmonkey]

Looks like I'm up first on will's list.

There is only 1 reason I can think of why you would want to make a list of people you find scummy when there is nothing to go on but joke votes. I could understand if we were at day 7 or 8, close to finishing, and needed to go through details to make our last lynch. this would be beneficial because you would actually have more to analyze, like vote placement, non vote placement, past band wagons, post with meaning. I do not however see any merit in 1 person making a list of people then saying we all need to post who we think is scummy. What would the basis be on? 7 pages of dribble where we were joke voting and discussing characters?

If your point was to make everyone active in this game, then that really hurts town. People not posting gives you something to go on. Forcing people to post takes this away. now everyone becomes active and no one can submarine. If no one can submarine, no one can be called out and pressured for submarining. If you can't pressure a person, they can't be cracked and caught.

Not to mention this is nothing more than a major deflection from the votes against you.

vote wildwilliam

[strike wolf]

So the majority of those posting seem to be in favor of lynching william and william's defense rather than really address anything that's been suggested against him is to cross his arms and become stubborn about the entire issue. I was honestly hoping to see how this developed and how you would defend yourself william but by deciding to go with the unmoving stance you're alienating the rest of the players. Well since you feel you aren't forced to claim yet maybe one more vote your way will sway your stance:

vote William

[drunkmonkey]

sorry...

unvote vote wildwilliam

[strike wolf]

So the majority of those posting seem to be in favor of lynching william and william's defense rather than really address anything that's been suggested against him is to cross his arms and become stubborn about the entire issue. I was honestly hoping to see how this developed and how you would defend yourself william but by deciding to go with the unmoving stance you're alienating the rest of the players. Well since you feel you aren't forced to claim yet maybe one more vote your way will sway your stance:

vote William

Ebwop: unvote vote william I thought i had unvoted my joke vote but apparently it was still there.

[wildwilliam]

So the majority of those posting seem to be in favor of lynching william and william's defense rather than really address anything that's been suggested against him is to cross his arms and become stubborn about the entire issue. I was honestly hoping to see how this developed and how you would defend yourself william but by deciding to go with the unmoving stance you're alienating the rest of the players. Well since you feel you aren't forced to claim yet maybe one more vote your way will sway your stance:

vote William

I have already defended myself. and if you and anyone else were to bother to read my defense you would see a soft claim in there:

no need to keep my vote there. he said he was trying to add flavor to the game. The only thing I ask is keep it within you character, when you start to bring in characters that aren't yours, you tend to get people excited

This is why I was getting on Victor, his diary entries sounded like he could have been claiming my role! and people would have known that and more about the characters in the game if we would have stayed on that path instead of making a "list", then voting a player because he does not like the list.

I am Tifa Lockhart (from Final Fantasy VII, the game) – Town J.O.A.T.

I am not sure what a J.O.A.T. is but I have one night kill, one investigation, and one protection. and you can be damn sure I am going to use my night kill on DoomYoshi.

If you also new more about the characters, you would know that I am a main one which would be easily counterclaimed.

I would rather save my night kill. my vote stands.

[drunkmonkey]

unvote

So, our best case now is either ghostly, VioIet, or VS? Unless someone has something new?

and you can be damn sure I am going to use my night kill on DoomYoshi.

Pleas explain again why you're so sure about DoomYoshi. Using your NK on a hunch or vendetta is generally a bad idea.

[wildwilliam]

unvote

So, our best case now is either ghostly, VioIet, or VS? Unless someone has something new?

and you can be damn sure I am going to use my night kill on DoomYoshi.

Pleas explain again why you're so sure about DoomYoshi. Using your NK on a hunch or vendetta is generally a bad idea.

I have made my case against doom very clear. plus he still has not answered my question to him about VIO. If he wants to point at me and say I am scummy for not answering his questions, then he is scummy for not answering mine.

[MoB Deadly]

unvote - Need to regroup...

I agree, do not use your night kill on Doom unless you have real evidence. You only have 1 kill so with a game this size, the better choice is definitely wait until we get some evidence.

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