South Park Mafia 2 Town Wins!

[zimmah]

Okay. Let me clarify.

I am not begging to have votes removed. But I am pleading for it, since I am worried, since:
ATTENTION:If no option has 7 votes (A player's lynch or a No-Lynch), then the option with the most votes will happen.

I don't want to get lynched this early in the game!

Drunkmonkey, people are getting hesistant to even call this a case. It was simply a man driving off-course on a highway, slapped and given directions.

I am not trying to be aggressive. Maybe the active game thing was a stretch. I am trying to make people sure of the fact I feel that the case against me is weak, although it is true that it is up to you to determine that.

-sens

the way sensman gets all frustrated about getting votes screams 3rd party to me. probably some kind of susrvivor role, maybe even an SK-like role, even tho there has not been an SK kill night 1 as far as i know, but who knows what can happen. i definitly think there's something odd about his behavior. not sure if it's just inexperienceness or he's "something" not town. i mean, yes, it can be frustrating to get killed early, (even as VT), but still, he's making too much noise for my likings.

[blakebowling]

Vote Count
slowreactor (3) - spiesr, LSU, dazza2008
drunkmonkey (1) - usAir
sensfan (4) - zimmah, MoB Deadly, drake_259, drunkmonkey (L-3)
LSU (1) - Epitaph1

With 12 alive, 7 Votes are required to lynch.
ATTENTION:Deadline has been extended to November 26th (Due to Thanksgiving, I overlooked that when setting the original deadline), it won't be enforced until sometime late-night though.
If no option has 7 votes (A player's lynch or a No-Lynch), then the option with the most votes will happen. If there is a tie it will be broken by Random.org.

[drunkmonkey]

I never voted for sensfan

[drake_259]

I never voted for sensfan

the vote is in red? does that mean your vote was stolen or something?

[zimmah]

I never voted for sensfan

the vote is in red? does that mean your vote was stolen or something?

i noticed that too, is there some 'briber' role or something?

[blakebowling]

I will confirm that the most recent vote count is correct.

[usAir]

I never voted for sensfan

the vote is in red? does that mean your vote was stolen or something?

i noticed that too, is there some 'briber' role or something?

I'm new, so I'm not really sure what's going on. Could someone please explain what just happened/what a briber role is?

Its easy to understand how the game normally runs, but I've never seen this in the threads I've read.

[dazza2008]

I never voted for sensfan

the vote is in red? does that mean your vote was stolen or something?

i noticed that too, is there some 'briber' role or something?

I'm new, so I'm not really sure what's going on. Could someone please explain what just happened/what a briber role is?

Its easy to understand how the game normally runs, but I've never seen this in the threads I've read.

Not sure exactly myself. I am guessing someone bought his vote or something like that.

Drunk did you get told your vote was bought? Can you still vote?

[drunkmonkey]

I haven't been told anything.

unvote vote slowreactor

Let's see what happens.

[spiesr]

I'm new, so I'm not really sure what's going on. Could someone please explain what just happened/what a briber role is?
Its easy to understand how the game normally runs, but I've never seen this in the threads I've read.

The most likely source of Drunkmonkey's vote being used where he did not place it is that a Politician stole his vote. The way the Politician roles works is that each night the Politician can target a player. During the next day, the Politician has control of that player's vote. They can use it by sending a pm to the mod.

Who says that blake gave the mafia a fake-claim? I don't know about you guys, but many of the games I've played in (as mafia), which may be little, but still, I think some mods give fake-claims and some mods don't.
But that aside, he has got a an interesting case. It makes sense with the role, yet, for now, I will let him live.
I insist, however, that people who have their votes on me withdraw them. I joined the game confused, lost, and now things have cleared up to reveal a frankly, inactive, caseless game. I do not blame you of your suspicion towards me, but seriously, you cannot call this a case! It would go unnoticeable in more active games. I will not claim as of yet, and I will not unless I feel like I have to. I refuse to budge from my position here. IT is essential that you understand: You have built a very poor, weak, unstable case on me. You cannot blame a player for getting confused.

Now, see here, you believe Slowreactor and want him not to be lynched, and you want not to have pressure/lynched applied to you either. At this point in the game, I don't think you can have it both ways. Unless you either come up with a new and very compelling case, or someone comes by and says something really stupid and get's their-self lynched.

[sensfan]

Spiesr:

You seem like you are being neutral. In this game, being neutral isn't a bad idea, but yet, it may be the fact that you are hiding something. You have, by far, seemed to be the best contributor to the game, and I respect you for that, but I don't know. It must be my inexperience or something, but you seem fishy to me.

(Look guys, It is a hunch, don't go oh look sensfan has had a meltdown let's vote for him. It is a hunch)

And, oh, guess what. I believe slow. Deal with it! I agree maybe over-balanced, etc, etc. We need to get some scum. We need to find that idiot politician and kill him, not because he voted for me, but that that role is WAY TOO POWERFUL. Get the politician, and we might have found scum or 3rd party (of-course, it could be a townie who frankly hates me)

I'm probably better off keeping my mouth shut.
I probably just did something REALLY stupid.
I probably just got myself lynched.
But I believe slow. If it comes to the situation where my vote could change the game, and keep me in, forget it. I'm not going to kill a townie.
I believe slow.

-sens

[dazza2008]

Spiesr:

You seem like you are being neutral. In this game, being neutral isn't a bad idea, but yet, it may be the fact that you are hiding something. You have, by far, seemed to be the best contributor to the game, and I respect you for that, but I don't know. It must be my inexperience or something, but you seem fishy to me.

(Look guys, It is a hunch, don't go oh look sensfan has had a meltdown let's vote for him. It is a hunch)

And, oh, guess what. I believe slow. Deal with it! I agree maybe over-balanced, etc, etc. We need to get some scum. We need to find that idiot politician and kill him, not because he voted for me, but that that role is WAY TOO POWERFUL. Get the politician, and we might have found scum or 3rd party (of-course, it could be a townie who frankly hates me)

I'm probably better off keeping my mouth shut.
I probably just did something REALLY stupid.
I probably just got myself lynched.
But I believe slow. If it comes to the situation where my vote could change the game, and keep me in, forget it. I'm not going to kill a townie.
I believe slow.

-sens

I think polititions are normally town. I could be wrong though. I have heard of a mafia blackmailer too but never seen it so I don't know much about it.

[zimmah]

Spiesr:

You seem like you are being neutral. In this game, being neutral isn't a bad idea, but yet, it may be the fact that you are hiding something. You have, by far, seemed to be the best contributor to the game, and I respect you for that, but I don't know. It must be my inexperience or something, but you seem fishy to me.

(Look guys, It is a hunch, don't go oh look sensfan has had a meltdown let's vote for him. It is a hunch)

And, oh, guess what. I believe slow. Deal with it! I agree maybe over-balanced, etc, etc. We need to get some scum. We need to find that idiot politician and kill him, not because he voted for me, but that that role is WAY TOO POWERFUL. Get the politician, and we might have found scum or 3rd party (of-course, it could be a townie who frankly hates me)

I'm probably better off keeping my mouth shut.
I probably just did something REALLY stupid.
I probably just got myself lynched.
But I believe slow. If it comes to the situation where my vote could change the game, and keep me in, forget it. I'm not going to kill a townie.
I believe slow.

-sens

I think polititions are normally town. I could be wrong though. I have heard of a mafia blackmailer too but never seen it so I don't know much about it.

if it gets to a lynch, we'll probably be able to figure out soon enough if it's a friendly or non-friendly.

[blakebowling]

Vote Count
slowreactor (3) - spiesr, LSU, dazza2008
drunkmonkey (1) - usAir
sensfan (4) - zimmah, MoB Deadly, drake_259, drunkmonkey (L-3)
LSU (1) - Epitaph1

With 12 alive, 7 Votes are required to lynch.
Deadline is November 26th, it won't be enforced until sometime late-night though.
If no option has 7 votes (A player's lynch or a No-Lynch), then the option with the most votes will happen. If there is a tie it will be broken by Random.org.
Let's try to keep activity up please.

[drake_259]

And there you go, drunk has lost his vote to whomever.

[dazza2008]

And there you go, drunk has lost his vote to whomever.

Yup that clears that up.

[sensfan]

Well then which town politician is doing this?
zimmah, MoB Deadly, drake_259

Drake 259 is the first to state the obvious. Is it him behind this? Probably not.
zimmah has said he could live with a no lynch, but i don't think he has the power of the vote.
MoB Deadly has had my vote ever since the start. His last post was Nov. 20th.

With Thanksgiving, slow has not came online. So now, all attention is directed to me, because I am the only one who can open mouth and talk.

Now guys, listen here. I belive slow. I belive his claim. I can confirm three things to you.
1. Slow and I are not scumbuddies.
2. I am not scum.
3. I am not a 3rd party member.

I am town. I have a claim at the ready.

-sens

[zimmah]

Well then which town politician is doing this?
zimmah, MoB Deadly, drake_259

Drake 259 is the first to state the obvious. Is it him behind this? Probably not.
zimmah has said he could live with a no lynch, but i don't think he has the power of the vote.
MoB Deadly has had my vote ever since the start. His last post was Nov. 20th.

With Thanksgiving, slow has not came online. So now, all attention is directed to me, because I am the only one who can open mouth and talk.

Now guys, listen here. I belive slow. I belive his claim. I can confirm three things to you.
1. Slow and I are not scumbuddies.
2. I am not scum.
3. I am not a 3rd party member.

I am town. I have a claim at the ready.

-sens

we don't even know if it's town or scum. it could benefit both parties. depending on who you vote, and who's vote you steal. if you keep stealing votes from townies and vote other townies with those votes, you hurt town much more. but if you keep stealing scum votes to vote for scum, you'll help town a lot.

i am town too, but i am no politician or anything else that can steal votes.

[drunkmonkey]

Vote Count
slowreactor (3) - spiesr, LSU, dazza2008
drunkmonkey (1) - usAir
sensfan (4) - zimmah, MoB Deadly, drake_259, drunkmonkey (L-3)
LSU (1) - Epitaph1

With 12 alive, 7 Votes are required to lynch.
ATTENTION:Deadline has been extended to November 26th (Due to Thanksgiving, I overlooked that when setting the original deadline), it won't be enforced until sometime late-night though.
If no option has 7 votes (A player's lynch or a No-Lynch), then the option with the most votes will happen. If there is a tie it will be broken by Random.org.

This was the post where my vote was stolen. It was also the first time blake announced the deadline extension. I believe someone tried to hammer sensfan at the deadline without exposing themselves. This could mean:

1) The vote-stealer & slow are both mafia.
2) The vote-stealer is mafia, but slow is town. They believe slow is harmless, and took a shot a killing a power role.
3) The vote-stealer is town, and believes slow's claim, and took a shot at killing someone else.

I'm sure there's more. It's something to note for the future.


In this type of game, where the most voted is lynched at the deadline, there should be much more discussion/voting. Anyone who does not cast a vote, or just votes on a non-case and leaves - I view them just as scummy as someone who casts a bandwagon vote on the biggest wagon. In essence, that's what they're doing. If you want to vote for someone who has little attention, fight your case. Otherwise, you're letting the biggest wagon get the lynch, which is no different than casting your vote for that person.

[dazza2008]

I was hopping slow would say a bit more. I still don't know if i belive him or not. I saw him in the forum but he never posted

[usAir]

I still think drunk may be scum, but I'll let it sit for a round. Still don't know who is more scummy, slow or sens. May as well vote for slow, and then we'll learn a bit about spiser and drunk, but I'm stull not sure.

[zimmah]

i think i'll unvote vote slow

maybe that will give us an indication as to why someone stole drunks vote

[sensfan]

Vote Count
slowreactor (3) - spiesr, LSU, dazza2008
drunkmonkey (1) - usAir
sensfan (4) - zimmah, MoB Deadly, drake_259, drunkmonkey (L-3)
LSU (1) - Epitaph1

With 12 alive, 7 Votes are required to lynch.
ATTENTION:Deadline has been extended to November 26th (Due to Thanksgiving, I overlooked that when setting the original deadline), it won't be enforced until sometime late-night though.
If no option has 7 votes (A player's lynch or a No-Lynch), then the option with the most votes will happen. If there is a tie it will be broken by Random.org.

This was the post where my vote was stolen. It was also the first time blake announced the deadline extension. I believe someone tried to hammer sensfan at the deadline without exposing themselves. This could mean:

1) The vote-stealer & slow are both mafia.
2) The vote-stealer is mafia, but slow is town. They believe slow is harmless, and took a shot a killing a power role.
3) The vote-stealer is town, and believes slow's claim, and took a shot at killing someone else.

I'm sure there's more. It's something to note for the future.


In this type of game, where the most voted is lynched at the deadline, there should be much more discussion/voting. Anyone who does not cast a vote, or just votes on a non-case and leaves - I view them just as scummy as someone who casts a bandwagon vote on the biggest wagon. In essence, that's what they're doing. If you want to vote for someone who has little attention, fight your case. Otherwise, you're letting the biggest wagon get the lynch, which is no different than casting your vote for that person.

The vote stealer could be slow himself. b4 disappearing into the Thanksgiving Holidays, he steals drunkmonkey's vote, gets the attention off him a little, gets the town trying to figure out who is the vote-stealer and then chills out with his family.

I am not implying that slow is scummarining, in fact, I think it is great to spend time with your family. We all have a life!

With the vote count 4-4, and the deadline in less than 36 hours, I am ready to claim.

[zimmah]

Vote Count
slowreactor (3) - spiesr, LSU, dazza2008
drunkmonkey (1) - usAir
sensfan (4) - zimmah, MoB Deadly, drake_259, drunkmonkey (L-3)
LSU (1) - Epitaph1

With 12 alive, 7 Votes are required to lynch.
ATTENTION:Deadline has been extended to November 26th (Due to Thanksgiving, I overlooked that when setting the original deadline), it won't be enforced until sometime late-night though.
If no option has 7 votes (A player's lynch or a No-Lynch), then the option with the most votes will happen. If there is a tie it will be broken by Random.org.

This was the post where my vote was stolen. It was also the first time blake announced the deadline extension. I believe someone tried to hammer sensfan at the deadline without exposing themselves. This could mean:

1) The vote-stealer & slow are both mafia.
2) The vote-stealer is mafia, but slow is town. They believe slow is harmless, and took a shot a killing a power role.
3) The vote-stealer is town, and believes slow's claim, and took a shot at killing someone else.

I'm sure there's more. It's something to note for the future.


In this type of game, where the most voted is lynched at the deadline, there should be much more discussion/voting. Anyone who does not cast a vote, or just votes on a non-case and leaves - I view them just as scummy as someone who casts a bandwagon vote on the biggest wagon. In essence, that's what they're doing. If you want to vote for someone who has little attention, fight your case. Otherwise, you're letting the biggest wagon get the lynch, which is no different than casting your vote for that person.

The vote stealer could be slow himself. b4 disappearing into the Thanksgiving Holidays, he steals drunkmonkey's vote, gets the attention off him a little, gets the town trying to figure out who is the vote-stealer and then chills out with his family.

I am not implying that slow is scummarining, in fact, I think it is great to spend time with your family. We all have a life!

With the vote count 4-4, and the deadline in less than 36 hours, I am ready to claim.

did not my vote make it 4-3?

anyway, i didn't even think of the possibility of slow being the vote-changer. it does make sense, voting someone else so you're not the one getting lynched. i'd probably do the same in his situation if that's the case.

either way by the nature of the last-minute votesteal (waiting to steal a vote till almost right on the deadline) looks very scummy to me. if the votestealer was town-aligned, i wouldn't think he'wait until the very last minute. this just screams evil to me. but yes, it could also be a last-minute attempt to save his own skin in the case of slow being the votestealer.

anyway i think swapping my vote is the best thing i can do atm, because i think this way we'll get more information. not necessarily thinking sens is any more 'town' then slow, but just the situation right now makes me believe lynching slow will bring us more advantages then lynching sens would.

[sensfan]

Oh right, 4-3.