US Military Action in Libya?

[saxitoxin]

[Qwert]

These bombarding of TV antenas, its same like in Yugoslav bombarding, when they realised that can not find military tareg,they start bombarding object, TV Station,Bridges.
Every day NATO(us), give report how they destroy 7-8 tanks, missile vehicles,armour car, and when bombardment over, they show that its all propaganda,because they only destroy 14 tanks for 78 days of bombardment.
I belive that its same in Libya. Libyans army know what Yugoslav Army use strategy to hide All Military equipment, and i think that nato(us) report of destroyed 200-300 libyan tanks are exagerated.
When you start bombarding Houses,building,bridges,tv stations, these mean,that NATO(us) are not in position to locate real Military target, and that they are out of ideas what to do next.

[Phatscotty]

What started this whole conflict? Who organized the uprising? Who called Obama/UN/Nato and said "hey, we're gonna do this, we need help"?

[Pirlo]

What started this whole conflict? Who organized the uprising? Who called Obama/UN/Nato and said "hey, we're gonna do this, we need help"?

just a revolution inspired by Egypt & Tunisia. or at least that what was reported... you know uncle sam is too nosy to stay off, especially when that happens to be in an oily country. but I say oil is not an enough motivation, USA government is a fucking vindictive and it's a nice chance to rape Gadafi.

[saxitoxin]

A pro-Syria demonstration today in the Marquis de Lafayette Park to tell Obama "HANDS OFF, SYRIA."

http://bambuser.com/channel/manqolnn/broadcast/1855980

Pro-Syria (Anti-NATO Intervention) Demonstrators: 250
Anti-Syria ("Pro CIA-Backed Insurgents") Counter-Demonstrators: 2
DC Metro Police, Federal Park Police, Secret Service and Federal Protective Service: 300
Western Media: 0

Pirlo can confirm, however, I believe they are chanting "The People United Shall Never Be Defeated!"*

[General_Tao]

I would guess that the majority of those couple of hundred are members of the local embassy staff and their families. any counter-demonstrators would be subject to their families in Syria being imprisoned and tortured, like the 26,000 who have been arrested and tortured in the last 3 months in that country...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-14359607

Just to put things in context,there were 400,000 people in Hama demonstrating against the syrian dictator this weekend. Hama is a city of 800,000, the third largest in that country. Over 130 of them were shot dead by the regime thugs, who sent in the tanks. Shades of 1968 Prague...



This is the best article I've read about the roots causes of the popular uprising against the regime in Syria, from the most widely respected newspaper in the European continent, Le Monde. It is however in french.

http://syrie.blog.lemonde.fr/2011/07/31 ... u-complot/

[saxitoxin]

I would guess that the majority of those couple of hundred are members of the local embassy staff and their families. any counter-demonstrators would be subject to their families in Syria being imprisoned and tortured, like the 26,000 who have been arrested and tortured in the last 3 months in that country...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-14359607

Just to put things in context,there were 400,000 people in Hama demonstrating against the syrian dictator this weekend. Hama is a city of 800,000, the third largest in that country. Over 130 of them were shot dead by the regime thugs, who sent in the tanks. Shades of 1968 Prague...



This is the best article I've read about the roots causes of the popular uprising against the regime in Syria, from the most widely respected newspaper in the European continent, Le Monde. It is however in french.

http://syrie.blog.lemonde.fr/2011/07/31 ... u-complot/

What are you carrying on about, now?

[General_Tao]

I kind of had the same reaction looking at your sig, goodness gracious...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ZPI-aaOjg&NR=1

[General_Tao]

"Libyan Rebels Wage 'Mad Max' War In The Mountains"

Interesting NPR article from a reporter who has spent time on the ground with the Rebels. It gives you an insight as to why Gaddhafi is still around and progress on the gound has been slow. Excerpts:

"The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have often featured large, well-trained armies facing off against insurgents who also have modern weapons. But Libya is a "Mad Max" kind of war.

For months the rebels there were essentially cut off. Gadhafi's troops had these mountains surrounded, and the rebels had to fight with whatever was on hand. And there wasn't much: ancient World War II rifles, some Kalashnikov guns, but everything else had to be scavenged.

To supplement their arsenal, the rebels have become creative. One fighter made a rocket launcher from an old barbecue, with long tubes for firing projectiles positioned on top of what had been the grill. It looks like you could cook meat in the back blast of the rocket fire.

The fighters themselves are also a motley crew. Professors, students, lawyers, engineers, doctors, laborers and taxi drivers have all taken up arms and headed to the front lines. They've become battle hardened, but still lack discipline.

The rebels in the Nafusa mountains have made gains in recent weeks, using their bravado and their rusty guns to lethal effect. But the fighting is still far from over."

[GreecePwns]

Talk about romanticizing. As if they didn't have the most powerful military alliance behind them or something.

[Qwert]

yea lol, like weapons created from pipes,barbecues and other garden tool ,give hem advantage over Goverment troops,like NATO(us) dont have any influence in battle.
War will be far over if nato(us) dont stand in small groop of rebels side,and with propaganda,create story that all people of libya fight for democraty,withouth any weapons, and that Goverment troops only in accident be killed,

[patches70]

This image of Mubarak at his first day of his trial should convince Gadhafi to give up power and surrender to the rebels-




Now, I'm a bettin' a nickel to a doughnut that we can all be pretty much assured of what verdict is going to end up coming down on Mubarak, even though the trial has just begun.

I'm not really sure this is going to engender any reason for the current Libyan tyrant to step down peacefully........

Heh, heh, if I were him I'd as just as soon go down fighting I'd suppose. Luckily, I'm not him. Unfortunately for the rebels and Europe, they can't really counting on "winning" by Gadhafi stepping down. Looks like they'll have to actually fight and win by the barrel of the rifle and NATO bombs. Unless NATO gets lucky and actually drops a bomb on the bastard, the Europeans are going to have to get their pretty uniforms dirty and go in with boots on the ground and actually fight, unless, of course, the EU can convince the United States to do the fighting, killing and dying on the ground.

I got news for Obama, if he wants to go that route he better consult Congress. Cause if not, shit is going to hit the fan if we have to fight for the god damn Europeans over this crapturd of a petty dictator.

Europe, fight your own battles. If you can't collectively beat Gadhafi then you might as well just fold up the ship and slink on back to the darkness and suffer in your inadequacy. I love ya guys and all, but I don't want my people dying for your oil shipments. We in the US have had quite enough fighting and dying of late, thank you very much.

[Pirlo]

This image of Mubarak at his first day of his trial should convince Gadhafi to give up power and surrender to the rebels-

actually, it will motivate Gadaffi to fight till his last spark.

[patches70]

This image of Mubarak at his first day of his trial should convince Gadhafi to give up power and surrender to the rebels-

actually, it will motivate Gadaffi to fight till his last spark.

Yeah, your sarcasm detector needs repair, I thought my sarcasm was quite clear, perhaps not.....

[Pirlo]

This image of Mubarak at his first day of his trial should convince Gadhafi to give up power and surrender to the rebels-

actually, it will motivate Gadaffi to fight till his last spark.

Yeah, your sarcasm detector needs repair, I thought my sarcasm was quite clear, perhaps not.....

hmm I think I'll repair it by not posting at 3 am...

[Phatscotty]

democracy!

[saxitoxin]

NATO must intervene to stop Windsor regime security forces from assaulting protesters! Civilization demands a No-Fly Zone over the UK to stop the regime. Regime chief, Gen. Elizabeth Windsor, has been in charge for more than 60 years. NATO must demand she leave her Buckingham command & control compound and face ICC justice.

[saxitoxin]

An editorial in today's Pravda:

What happened in London last night - the torching of private property, wanton destruction, looting and generalised violence, was lamentable and unacceptable. Yet does it not underline the sheer hypocrisy with which western governments view and conduct policy, especially when we draw lines of comparison with Libya?

Let us imagine that for months - nay, years...I repeat, years, foreign powers had been arming and aiding not 300, but rather, 30,000 Islamist fanatics, who, equipped with heavy machine-guns, tanks, self-propelled artillery and anti-aircraft munitions, ran amok in London, Manchester, Liverpool and Bristol. If the police shot dead one man in Tottenham, if the police shot dead the Brazilian Jean Charles de Menezes, because he, er... "looked Asian" back in 2007, what would they do with 30,000 marauding thugs? Why, according to the British Government, evidently nothing, they would just stand back because "the people were deciding".

Then let someone call in the UN to bomb the crap out of Britain for five months because unarmed civilians were being attacked.

http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/0 ... n_riots-0/

[saxitoxin]

The Republic of Iran has offered to send a team of Human Rights monitors to the UK under UN auspices to monitor the actions of regime security forces in suppressing protesters.

A senior Iranian lawmaker says Iran's Majlis (parliament) is ready to send a group of human rights rapporteurs to the UK to investigate human rights violations in the country.

Deputy head of Iran's Majlis (parliament) National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Hossein Ebrahimi made the comment in an interview with Fars news agency on Tuesday.

He referred to the large arrests of British protesters angry over the killing of a black man by the police and said, Iran's Majlis urges the British government and the UK embassy in Tehran to facilitate the visit without making false excuses.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193083.html

[Phatscotty]

An entry in the March, 2011 report prepared by the Russian Ministry of Finance for the International Criminal Police Organization (ICPO) [aka INTERPOL] designed to track major international monetary transactions related to the global drug trade lists a US-EU transfer to Banco Citibank de Honduras, S.A. from Barack Hussein Obama II in the shocking amount of “$73 Billion in cash and US Securities” and “(estimated) $15 Billion in gold and silver bullion” on the same day the American President (March 22nd) was visiting El Salvadoron his visit to Central America.

Important to note is that the entry in this report naming “Barack Hussein Obama II” does not list him as the American President [pictured top left with coup-ousted Honduran President Manual Zelaya], but as he is the only person in the world having this exact name one would be hard pressed to believe it could be anyone else.

The American leader’s ties with Honduras, the Central American country where this staggeringly huge deposit was made, are well known with his supporting of the 2009 coup d’etat that ousted President Manual Zelaya in favor of a right-wing military junta. Under Obama’s direct orders, President Zelaya was held at the US airbase outside Tegucigalpa before being forcibly sent to San José, Costa Rica, a move that earned Honduras an expulsion from the Organization of American States (OAS) and shocked the entire Latin American World.

We attacked Libya before Obama even returned from El Salvador.

http://americancivilsentinels.ning.com/ ... ebookshare

[General_Tao]

Looks like the rebels in Libya are closing in on Tripoli. I'd guess gaddhafi won't spent new years there...

Assad will last a bit longer, but not too much longer.

[Phatscotty]

Looks like the rebels in Libya are closing in on Tripoli. I'd guess gaddhafi won't spent new years there...

Assad will last a bit longer, but not too much longer.

CIA head, oops, I mean 4 days before we got Osama bin Laden Pentagon head Leon Panetta says Ghaddafi's days are numbered.

[saxitoxin]

Looks like the rebels in Libya are closing in on Tripoli. I'd guess gaddhafi won't spent new years there...

Assad will last a bit longer, but not too much longer.

*yawn*

You (and by "you" I mean the U.S. Military-Industrial Complex) have been saying that every two weeks since March).

[Phatscotty]

TPDS gonna getchya Gadafi!!!

[General_Tao]

to put it in CC terms, the rebels are inside Qaddhafi's city, closing in on the city's square. Once they take the square then the palace is the final step. After they take that all of his troops turn neutral...