[UNKNOWN] Mafia Day 5 - The Disappearance [Abandoned]

[safariguy5]

I read it as: After we lynch Rodion, we will know we have to lynch Bleed. I don't think he claimed unlynchable...

Well, it's not like if we lynch him and he turns up town we automatically suspect bleed of doing something scummy. It's not like Bleed led the wagon on Rodion, and there was no counterclaiming that would incriminate Bleed.

That said, Rodion has been quite defensive about his case and strike does present a strong argument, so I will have add pressure and wait for a roleclaim.

unvote vote Rodion

[Commander9]

Vote Count

safariguy5 (2) - Yoshi, ndrs
freezie
pancakemix (1) - Edoc
Streaker
ndrs
Edocsil
vioiet
targetman377
TheSaxlad
naxus
Iliad
DoomYoshi
gimli
Rodion (10) - Streaker, freezie, gimli, Strike Wolf, PCM, Iliad, naxus, Rodion, target, safari L-2
blakebowling
jeraado
sheepofdumb
ShaggyDan
nagerous
Strike Wolf
Fircoal
Bleed_Green
Namliam

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch. Deadline on May 5th.

[Rodion]

Roland, Paladin.

La Chanson de Roland (12th century or so).

2 powers

1 - Mason with Uliviero (not going to tell who he is unless he gets to L-2).
2 - Oliphant Horn - prevents one lynch (can only work on myself if I did a good rendition of Roland)

Get me lynched, realize that I am the *expletive* governor and start aiding me before we lose the damn game, will you?

[targetman377]

UNVOTE

[safariguy5]

unvote So, affiliated with the Knights or not? Because if you are, then huge "I told you so!" to the peeps who doubted Knights Alignment.

[TheSaxlad]

pika pika?

[Rodion]

unvote So, affiliated with the Knights or not? Because if you are, then huge "I told you so!" to the peeps who doubted Knights Alignment.

I'm sorry, I should have said more.

Roland was Charlemagne's nephew. He's a paladin/knight, but not a Templar. He dies out of pride: he could have fought a battle in which he was vastly outnumbered or he could have blown the horn to get aid from Charlemagne's army. He decided not to blow the horn (he later changed his mind, but only when it was too late).

Obviously, that's where the story ends and I blow the horn before Commander posts my lynch scene.

[edocsil]

For clarification would that end the day or not, it's worth testing if the day doesn't end.

[Rodion]

For clarification would that end the day or not, it's worth testing if the day doesn't end.

I don't know. Can you inform us on whether the "prevent lynch" power ends the day, Commander?

[Rodion]

For clarification would that end the day or not, it's worth testing if the day doesn't end.

I don't know. Can you inform us on whether the "prevent lynch" power ends the day, Commander?

You obviously don't need to admit I have the power, just say how the mechanics would work if someone used it.

[Fircoal]

pika pika?

Chu?

[Commander9]

I don't know. Can you inform us on whether the "prevent lynch" power ends the day, Commander?

No, I will not reveal it. Let it be a surprise.

[edocsil]

Humh. This seems odd. Something like this would be in the role PM usually.

[VioIet]

Humh. This seems odd. Something like this would be in the role PM usually.

Probably not, since commander didn't mod-kill him. He probably paraphrased it enough.

[pancakemix]

I was rather certain day-ending was standard for governor.

If anything can really be called fitting to the theme, I suppose Roland is. I'm not ready to unvote just yet though.

[VioIet]

Freezie is on this bandwagon, and if Rodion turns up town, I will make a note of that.

[edocsil]

I was rather certain day-ending was standard for governor.

If anything can really be called fitting to the theme, I suppose Roland is. I'm not ready to unvote just yet though.

Usually it is, I asked because there are other conditions to it. I guess we will have to live with the claim.

Vio is my new case.

Mainly its that she is skimming HARD.

Humh. This seems odd. Something like this would be in the role PM usually.

Probably not, since commander didn't mod-kill him. He probably paraphrased it enough.

It should have been obvious that that wasn't where we were going with that logic. That and 7 posts in 26 pages of D2 with little of substance, called out freezie but never placed a vote.

Unvote Vote Vio

[Fircoal]

Just to let others know I am in the middle of making a post. (Despite the fact it isn't as long as POTC's post it's still taking quite a while) I should be done with it after school today. So yea.

[strike wolf]

To be honest confirming he is telling the truth about his role by testing the lynch does not sound like a bad deal and considering I still think it a bit unlikely he is town I do not feel like moving my vote as of yet. However it also seems that commander will not explain whether the day would end or not if he was unlynchable. So at the very least we should at least question a few other people.

My case on vio still stands from earlier. I found her behavior a bit uncharacteristic of what I usually spy from her and she has been going after freezie though relatively passively (she hasn't been completely passive but I have seen her in games before where she was going after someone and she is usually very aggressive about it). to add who has a secret agenda against someone and admits to it so easily? I don't really completely buy into the vote count argument against her by itself but it is worth noting in conjecture with the other suspicious behaviors.

I have two or three other people of note but I would have to go back through the thread before I could make a coherent case against them.

[ndrs]

I'm not sure if I'm buying Rodion's role claim or not.

The character fits pretty well within a religion/literature theme. Maybe too well? I mean, all characters we have seen in scenes to this point had a religious or literature connection. Roland connects to both (a paladin who fights Saracens in the name of God in one of the major works of the French literary canon). A good choice if you want to come up with a plausible fake role.

Also, Roland couldn't not have used the horn to save his own life. If I remember correctly, he'd have to blow it so hard that he'd die from exhaustion. He knew this but still blew it in the end when the battle was lost – after preparing himself for death. Rodion left out this part.

With that background, I don't think this makes sense:

...
Oliphant Horn - prevents one lynch (can only work on myself if I did a good rendition of Roland)...

I guess it's possible that Rodion could've got the idea for this claim from the website about Mafia roles he liked to earlier in this thread? That's were I found out about the Governor role.

[safariguy5]

I'm not sure if I'm buying Rodion's role claim or not.

The character fits pretty well within a religion/literature theme. Maybe too well? I mean, all characters we have seen in scenes to this point had a religious or literature connection. Roland connects to both (a paladin who fights Saracens in the name of God in one of the major works of the French literary canon). A good choice if you want to come up with a plausible fake role.

Also, Roland couldn't not have used the horn to save his own life. If I remember correctly, he'd have to blow it so hard that he'd die from exhaustion. He knew this but still blew it in the end when the battle was lost – after preparing himself for death. Rodion left out this part.

With that background, I don't think this makes sense:

...
Oliphant Horn - prevents one lynch (can only work on myself if I did a good rendition of Roland)...

I guess it's possible that Rodion could've got the idea for this claim from the website about Mafia roles he liked to earlier in this thread? That's were I found out about the Governor role.

Is it one shot though? Governor one shot as part of a variation on the JOAT theme is what I'm seeing from the claim.

[Rodion]

To Safari: it's a 1-time thing.

Roland, Paladin.

La Chanson de Roland (12th century or so).

2 powers

1 - Mason with Uliviero (not going to tell who he is unless he gets to L-2).
2 - Oliphant Horn - prevents one lynch (can only work on myself if I did a good rendition of Roland)

Get me lynched, realize that I am the *expletive* governor and start aiding me before we lose the damn game, will you?

And to ndrs: I knew what a governor was before this started, so, yes, it's perfectly possible that I made this up. There's only one way to find out.

And, yes, in the literary work he did die because of the strength he had to summon in order to blow the horn. I hope that's not the case here.

[Commander9]

Vote Count

safariguy5 (2) - Yoshi, ndrs
freezie
pancakemix
Streaker
ndrs
Edocsil
vioiet (1) - Edoc
targetman377
TheSaxlad
naxus
Iliad
DoomYoshi
gimli
Rodion (8) - Streaker, freezie, gimli, Strike Wolf, PCM, Iliad, naxus, Rodion, L-4
blakebowling
jeraado
sheepofdumb
ShaggyDan
nagerous
Strike Wolf
Fircoal
Bleed_Green
Namliam

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch. Deadline on May 5th.

[strike wolf]

I will admit that would suck if you let yourself be lynched because you thought you were unlynchable and it was a mod trick...

[Commander9]

I will admit that would suck if you let yourself be lynched because you thought you were unlynchable and it was a mod trick...

Why do I get the feeling that everyone considers me a very evil mod who implements a bunch oddities and tries to mess with peoples heads?