real bad results in c and a (case resolved.)

[eddie2]

then you could actually look at this from feb.

Game 8545271
Game 8545272
Game 8545273
Game 8545475
Game 8550555

plus lots more where he was only deploying and not playing any shots even when he had a good bonus at the start.

[eddie2]

So who took the turns in the games he actually did win? Was Blitz supposed to be the only 1 watching his acc? It's obviously understandable he would take turns in games he was in with him vs other games... Just seems odd some games were played that he actually won but others missed.

read the c and a report mate. you will see that leolou was sitting his account and blitz told him to stop then carried on by himself sitting by the looks of things leo was sitting for him mid feb when blitz told him to stop.

[David_Wain]

Hmmmmm, yeh I will have another look later or something. Thanks for the info.

[Serbia]

I feel real bad for Jobi and his loss of a loved one. If I would of known this to occur, this would of never happened. Trust me, there is many low ranks I could of teamed with. I was not trying to gain anything, he was a cook when our games started and still is a cook, but, no games were thrown and none of this was on purpose. So, ask yourself, why then? The answer is I just wanted to team with a partner that I have not teamed with in awhile, it has been several months, that's it. No one was trying to abuse anything, it was found a warning for this as I should not of joined some of those games even though he gave me permission too, I was guilty of that and owned it. I never lied.

The guilt was from me joining some games for him. I had no idea this was a big NO NO for cc to do, like I said, others had done this to me in my public games before and nothing happened. I realize two wrongs do not make a right.

This makes me incredulous. Consider the thought process.

I want to create some quad games... and I want to use ( ) a partner I haven't teamed up with in a while.
BUT WAIT! I know Jobiwan is absent from the site, he's dealing with the death of a loved one.
Well, I really want to play with him though, so I'll just sign him up anyway! Never mind the fact that I could team up with any number of low ranked n00bs if I want!
BUT WAIT! I know Jobi is absent from the site, and I can't have him missing turns in my games, I'd lose! I'll just take his turns for him.
Boy, this was great fun playing with you Jobi! We should really do this again, and again, and again...
BUT WAIT! He has other games too! Well.. I'll join up in those, but.. well I'm not going to take those turns. Those games don't help me any!
It's good to be Conqueror.

So what this means is, Blitz KNEW Jobiwan wasn't on the site; he had inside, personal information regarding that. He went ahead and signed him up anyway, KNOWING Jobiwan wouldn't be around to take the turns. He then used the Jobiwan account to make sure the games they were mutually in together did not suffer from missed turns.

tl;dr - Jobiwan became a Blitz multi account. Games were created, joined, and played IN TOTAL by Blitzaholic himself, knowing Jobiwan is gone from the site.

And you expect me to believe that Blitz is in ANY way innocent? Naive? A victim of unfortunate circumstances? He's just as bad as any other cheat.

[Fruitcake]

Well fortunately, due to my searing new software I have been able to intercept the PM sent from Blitz to Robin. This means I can bring you the real story as written and not the storyline so kindly edited by Robin.

Here is what was really written...

Yes Nette the whole thing is sad for all of those who look up to my magnificence, especially my part in it which was a pretty shitty thing to do but I don’t care about that, I feel awful about being caught which exposed the entire thing, and to some outsiders it probably looked too bad and easy an error to be real, it was unfortunate that I got caught. I feel real bad for Jobi, but not bad enough to have done the right thing obviously, and his loss of a loved one. If I would of known this going to be found out, this would of never happened. Trust me, let me sit your account, you know I can be trusted, there is many low ranks I could of teamed with none of them are as clever as me and let’s be honest that’s setting the bar real low. I was not trying to gain anything except more self glorification, he was a cook when our games started and still is a cook so I really taught him a lot and he has obviously gained massively from being in my inner sanctum, but, no games were thrown by him…after all he wasn’t even around to throw them, that was my job and none of this being caught and stuff was on purpose. So, ask yourself, why then? I ask myself this question regularly. The answer is I just wanted to team with a partner that I have not teamed with in awhile…well since the last game I teamed with him anyway, it has been several months since I didn’t team with him, that's it. No one was trying to abuse anything, only those vile members who are jealous of me and how fantastic I am, it was found a warning for this as I should not of joined some of those games even though he gave me permission too, Yes I see now he would have expected me to play them after joining him into them but I was guilty of no more than that and owned it, can I own guilt? Please tell me Nette. I never lied when I was asleep.

The multihunters investigated everything and took a week to do so, showing they looked into this far and wide and cleared us of cheating, there was NO intent on my part to lose any game Jobi was in with me, NO throwing of games except those I put him in and didn’t bother to babysit as that would have ruined the point of the exercise, NO point dumping of my precious points, only Jobi’s and he is just a cook I can use after all, NO hijacking except where I popped him in my games and played all the turns for him so I would win while he lost the other points, NO cheating in the letter of CC law even if it was a distasteful and mean spirited thing to do, all the others involved are innocent in that accord. All that happened was I thought up a great wheeze to dump his points in those games so I could gain more points when I played his turns for him in the games he was partnered up with me. I cannot understand why those horrible people like fruitycakes should be so nasty, it was his idea about teaming up with low ranks in the first place that gave me the idea! All I did was to take this idea and develop it to its natural illegal conclusion, what’s wrong in that? I can only imagine he is jealous of me.

The guilt, if that’s what it can be called, I prefer the word 'blamelessness', was from me joining some games for him. I had no idea this was a big NO NO for cc to do because I had not bothered to read the rules, can’t you see Nette that I am more than CC, more than some silly rules that are there for those who are jealous of me. I cannot deal with complicated things like that, like I said, others had done this to me in my public games before and nothing happened because I didn’t know it was happening. I realize two wrongs do not make a right. But I heard that two negatives make a positive so how does that work?

So, yes Nette, I feel embarrassed the whole thing occured because I can see where it would look bad to some, and I was caught. Again, the whole thing was an unfortunate mishap next time I will be more careful and underhand. I apologize to anyone whom I may of hurt or who may of looked up to me, and that includes you Nette, or saw this situation more pessismitically, it was a sad day in CC but hey, look on the bright side, your favourite player, me, is still top of the points board. I feel happy I told my version of the truth and I feel relieved that I was investigated and justice was served fairly, after all, what’s a warning, nothing more than a gnats bite in my grand scheme of things. You all have a right to carry on bowing to my greatness and share as you wish in here or in the forums, bash me or support me but please pass the word round my friends that I like the approbation they give me, at least show respect to Jobi, unlike I have done, and his loss, but, for me, this chapter is closed as I have lots of other clever wheezes up my sleeve and I will not talk about it again as I cannot carry this particular wheeze out any more as it is sad anytime anyone brings this up as it shows I am actually pretty rubbish generally.

Sincerely, Blitzy

[Leehar]

Well at least Robinette did a good job feeding the hounds...

[Funkyterrance]

Thanks Fruitcake, I thoroughly enjoyed that. Actually loled. Cheers!

[Woodruff]

I have recently come back and started playing again and I am just now getting round to reading up about all this. This all seems highly confusing and I am no doubt missing alot of stuff. 1 question I do have is, Sonic your pointing out games that were apparently thrown, but around the same dates there were also several games that Jobiwan won also -

This doesn't address Blitz having a defacto cook multi for his team games.

[safariguy5]

Thanks Fruitcake, I thoroughly enjoyed that. Actually loled. Cheers!

Yeah, that was hilarious. Does Master Fenrir know about this? He might have competition for Hard Balls columnist.

[gannable]

lol i like Fruitcake's version better

the original version was too sad and tragic.
oh it was a sad day in CC, what BS

he makes me vomit

[Bruceswar]

Boy I'm glad I wasn't an admin when this case came to light. I probably would have gotten fired as a result.

Regardless, while the escalating system is in place, and I think it is effective a vast majority of the time, I think that in this case there should have been some sort of punishment beyond a warning. It saddens me to think that the ultimate powers around here don't have the smarts to realize that some offenses need to be made examples of for the betterment of the community (although I do readily admit to that being a very subjective ideology, so don't go jumping down my throat).

Personally, I think an appropriate punishment would have been a full point reset for Blitzaholic and a 1 week ban. Sure, due to my unmitigated and often extreme prejudice against Blitzaholic I wish deep down inside that he'd been permanently banned as it would have given me at least one reason to begin enjoying this website again, but that is neither here nor there. Even if you don't want to give him the 1 week ban instead of the warning he should have received a point reset at the very least.

My two cents, hate it, love it, ignore it, it's up to you.

I knew there was a reason I liked you. Well put!

[gannable]

a point reset would do nothing

he'd find a way to get those points back; and in the meantime it would only help his teammates get more points.

[Funkyterrance]

Maybe before he got the points back they would correct some of the loopholes that are allowing him to "get ahead".

[Bones2484]

and in the meantime it would only help his teammates get more points.

This has never been his goal, nor would it benefit him in the long run. Remember, he needs to dump points from his teammates.

[gannable]

i meant it would help his real teammates (the good players)

imagine a game with him having 1000 pts or whatever and 2 other THOTA

wanna play them? no thanks

they'd win a ton of pts against a good team

[Funkyterrance]

But It wouldn't take much time for him to be back to a score that was high enough so it all evened out more or less? It's that long period after the crux in the middle that would take a lot of time since he would have to start all over picking up all the little crumbs out of the cracks... in the meantime hopefully the system will catch up to him.

[Chariot of Fire]

A points reset for Sitsaholic would really have been the most apt.

a) It hits him where it hurts most
b) The points he currently has are not fairly earned so there should be some redress
c) It's by far the most popular punishment according to the poll
d) We may actually end up with a Conqueror who people can respect
e) It's unlikely he'd continue with his farming antics having just been nabbed
f) We'd eventually all get to see where he really belongs on the scoreboard (if he's any good he'll climb back up to a rank that befits his skill and not his ability to screw the system)

[Pirlo]

guys why can't you just get a life and move on?

[Gold Knight]

A points reset for Sitsaholic would really have been the most apt.

a) It hits him where it hurts most
b) The points he currently has are not fairly earned so there should be some redress
c) It's by far the most popular punishment according to the poll
d) We may actually end up with a Conqueror who people can respect
e) It's unlikely he'd continue with his farming antics having just been nabbed
f) We'd eventually all get to see where he really belongs on the scoreboard (if he's any good he'll climb back up to a rank that befits his skill and not his ability to screw the system)

At the same point, resetting him would screw up the point system big time with Blitz back at 1000. You're correct in saying he would get back to a high rank, probably fairly quickly as well, but at the cost of other users' points on the site. Especially players who dont know Blitz and see a private joining their game: they wouldnt even have a shot. As always, I believe that if you really want him unseated from his spot then you have to take it from him, even if it means playing his own game and bringing whatever ranks into the games you'd like.

[Funkyterrance]

Why would someone not have a shot? He can't be THAT good. If what I hear is true he didn't really get his points from actual gameplay skillz so a decent player should be able to hold his/her own with him right? I have also been wondering why don't a bunch of people (who are better players than myself) band against him and join all his games. Even if there is some loss of points, wouldn't it be worth it to knock him off the pot?

[Johnny Rockets]

Cap his points at 4500, for life. ( I'm sure the code can be written in....)

This makes him stuck as a Field Marshal, which I'm sure he can maintain, but ensures that he will never hold the title of Conqueror again.

It's a shame really. I'd love to know why he risked it.

JRock

[Funkyterrance]

I have a general questions regarding this issue: Is there any way all this discussion could possibly change the ruling? If so, how much support would actually be needed? Has a ruling ever been changed before because the community rose up? All newbie questions. Any info would be appreciated.

[Woodruff]

Why would someone not have a shot? He can't be THAT good. If what I hear is true he didn't really get his points from actual gameplay skillz so a decent player should be able to hold his/her own with him right? I have also been wondering why don't a bunch of people (who are better players than myself) band against him and join all his games. Even if there is some loss of points, wouldn't it be worth it to knock him off the pot?

Blitzaholic has considerable and daunting skill at the game. He simply moves beyond that level by questionable methods. So no, a typical "decent player" really wouldn't hold their own with him that well, in my opinion.

[Funkyterrance]

How many times have you played him?

[Chariot of Fire]

How many times have you played him?

49 games, always as opponents. I'm currently up 27-19 (the other 3 games being multiplayer singles which were won by someone else).

Yet I'll probably never better my 5th place on the scoreboard, even if my individual records against those at the top are better than theirs against me.