map idea: Moon Race

thenobodies80 · Post by **thenobodies80** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:24 pm

natty_dread wrote:No, there are also factories. The icons should be listed on a legend, explained which is which, and what they do.

100% agree with natty on this, it could be a good improvement to move in the right direction.

Teflon Kris · Post by **Teflon Kris** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:26 pm

Oops, I missed that - yeah, the factories certainly need to be in the legend, and therefore, to save space, maybe there should just be one factory icon.

Plus, the bonus explanation about a moon mine and factory should perhaps say 'ANY' factory (assuming that is the case)

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:59 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:
natty_dread wrote:No, there are also factories. The icons should be listed on a legend, explained which is which, and what they do.

100% agree with natty on this, it could be a good improvement to move in the right direction.

I agree, too. Clarity is prosperity

thenobodies80 · Post by **thenobodies80** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:12 pm

natty_dread wrote:No, there are also factories. The icons should be listed on a legend, explained which is which, and what they do.

How is it going? 8-[

DukeHazzard · Post by **DukeHazzard** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:46 am

thenobodies80 wrote:
natty_dread wrote:No, there are also factories. The icons should be listed on a legend, explained which is which, and what they do.

How is it going?

I've been moving and packing and unpacking.... will get back to this soon.

DukeHazzard · Post by **DukeHazzard** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:55 am

Some possible changes?? Do the continent colors work better? Dark continents drowned out the cities, etc. And the arrows for cross map attacks? Should I remove the cross maps legend? I'm gonna work on the moon next.

natty dread · Post by **natty dread** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:06 am

The icons should be listed on a legend, explained which is which, and what they do.

This needs doing.

Also I recommend enlargening the playable area. Your current image is 700x600 which is a large map size, so you can size it up to 840x800... Eurasia is really cluttered, it's hard to see what label goes where, a larger map size would help.

Riskismy · Post by **Riskismy** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:05 pm

Am I the only one who brought up the 50 troop bonus? If not, could you please point me to the discussion?
Otherwise, I'd like to hear what you're going for there.

DukeHazzard · Post by **DukeHazzard** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:05 pm

Riskismy wrote:Am I the only one who brought up the 50 troop bonus? If not, could you please point me to the discussion?
Otherwise, I'd like to hear what you're going for there.

My idea was like arms race (which is one of my fav maps). Race to the moon for supremacy and the win. But I was leaving discussion for when (and if) I ever see the gameplay workshop (which is where, as I understand it, bonuses and gameplay balance is worked out).

I hope this answers your question.

DukeHazzard · Post by **DukeHazzard** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:07 pm

natty_dread wrote:
The icons should be listed on a legend, explained which is which, and what they do.

This needs doing.

Also I recommend enlargening the playable area. Your current image is 700x600 which is a large map size, so you can size it up to 840x800... Eurasia is really cluttered, it's hard to see what label goes where, a larger map size would help.

I will, but I haven't started this as I'm not finished all the icons and therefore can't make a completed legend. Larger map size sounds good.

DukeHazzard · Post by **DukeHazzard** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:04 pm

Doesn't nobody love me anymore?? comments pls

natty dread · Post by **natty dread** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:46 pm

natty_dread wrote:
The icons should be listed on a legend, explained which is which, and what they do.

This needs doing.

Also I recommend enlargening the playable area. Your current image is 700x600 which is a large map size, so you can size it up to 840x800... Eurasia is really cluttered, it's hard to see what label goes where, a larger map size would help.

You have stuff to do, why are you begging for comments?

DukeHazzard · Post by **DukeHazzard** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:49 am

natty_dread wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
The icons should be listed on a legend, explained which is which, and what they do.

This needs doing.

Also I recommend enlargening the playable area. Your current image is 700x600 which is a large map size, so you can size it up to 840x800... Eurasia is really cluttered, it's hard to see what label goes where, a larger map size would help.

You have stuff to do, why are you begging for comments?

Actually, I was just hoping Sully had something to say...

but your right

natty dread · Post by **natty dread** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:11 am

DukeHazzard wrote:but you're right

Fixed

But this is actually something I would advice all new mapmakers about the workpace of the foundry:

If you ever find yourself in a situation where comments/feedback to your map dwindle, just keep on working on the map, pick out something to do and just do it... just keep previous versions saved on your disk so you can revert back to a previous version in case things go horribly wrong...

The idea is, that by doing changes to the map, you will prompt people into commenting on them - they will either like the changes and tell you about it, or they will hate the changes and tell you about it, but either way you'll be getting more feedback again.

thenobodies80 · Post by **thenobodies80** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:30 am

natty_dread wrote:
The icons should be listed on a legend, explained which is which, and what they do.

I'm still waiting for the icons.
Maybe it's not clear, but I don't want you make nice graphics now!
Your map should be clear,easy to understand, etc....

Nobodies

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:28 pm

DukeHazzard wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
The icons should be listed on a legend, explained which is which, and what they do.

This needs doing.

Also I recommend enlargening the playable area. Your current image is 700x600 which is a large map size, so you can size it up to 840x800... Eurasia is really cluttered, it's hard to see what label goes where, a larger map size would help.

You have stuff to do, why are you begging for comments?

Actually, I was just hoping Sully had something to say...

but your right

Have no fear, Sully's here!

For the territory labels, I think a quick fix is to put them at the bottom of each icon. Have them overlap a little. And use the extra pixel space you've got to explain the icons, like natty and nobodies kinda said.

DukeHazzard · Post by **DukeHazzard** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:25 pm

OK some big changes. Increased map to largest possible. Added some legends and info.

[bigimg]http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/dukehazzard/MoonRaceBig11.jpg[/bigimg]

natty dread · Post by **natty dread** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:34 pm

Nice, good job. I suggest adding all the different city icons next to "cities" in the legend.

The ocean cities... perhaps you could think of some kind of functionality for them, since they already have an icon? Perhaps a collection bonus, like +1 for each 3 ocean cities, or something like that.

DukeHazzard · Post by **DukeHazzard** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:46 am

Next update:

[bigimg]http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/dukehazzard/MoonRaceBig12.jpg[/bigimg]

I'm thinking its time to move on to the next forum...

Bruceswar · Post by **Bruceswar** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:48 pm

looking better...

2 suggestions.

1 make the legend areas not as opaque

2 See if you can possible switch out those lines with something else. The connecting lines look a bit messy if you ask me.

Keep up the good work!

Victor Sullivan · Post by **Victor Sullivan** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:53 pm

Also, connect Indochina to Mariana.

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:21 am

DukeHazzard wrote:
Riskismy wrote:Am I the only one who brought up the 50 troop bonus? If not, could you please point me to the discussion?
Otherwise, I'd like to hear what you're going for there.

My idea was like arms race (which is one of my fav maps). Race to the moon for supremacy and the win. But I was leaving discussion for when (and if) I ever see the gameplay workshop (which is where, as I understand it, bonuses and gameplay balance is worked out).

Why wait?

The foundry doesn;t work with a simple checklist - one of the purposes of the drafting room is to ensure that mapmakers are able to cope with gameplay and graphic considerations

DukeHazzard · Post by **DukeHazzard** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:20 am

MrBenn wrote:
DukeHazzard wrote:
Riskismy wrote:Am I the only one who brought up the 50 troop bonus? If not, could you please point me to the discussion?
Otherwise, I'd like to hear what you're going for there.

My idea was like arms race (which is one of my fav maps). Race to the moon for supremacy and the win. But I was leaving discussion for when (and if) I ever see the gameplay workshop (which is where, as I understand it, bonuses and gameplay balance is worked out).

Why wait?

The foundry doesn;t work with a simple checklist - one of the purposes of the drafting room is to ensure that mapmakers are able to cope with gameplay and graphic considerations

Well I didn't entirely wait. I stated my reason for the bonus. If someone wants to discuss this bonus more, then they can respond. I was also focusing on the graphical comments and have made many adjustments based on those suggestions.

Bruceswar · Post by **Bruceswar** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:10 am

your legend text... Take off the glow and try a white stroke at 2. See how that looks. I think it would look better if you ask me.

DukeHazzard · Post by **DukeHazzard** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:01 am

Bruceswar wrote:your legend text... Take off the glow and try a white stroke at 2. See how that looks. I think it would look better if you ask me.

maybe your looking at an older version. there is no glow on the latest. but I still will try the stroke. I'll post it soon.

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