theherkman point dumper [vacationed]

[Eddy_26]

That's a possibility, so let's examine it for a moment. If what you say is true, then what is the logic behind "if they all went premium"? How is the number of premiums necessary to play those games relevant to the money the site would make from that number of freemiums going to premium? Particularly given his statement that "x is money that CC will never get". Along with that, how would that be relevant to the two statements directly against Andy?

What's the rationale for him to tie all of those together, if not also stuffing the fact that he has that many multis into Andy's face?

When I saw that the first idea that came to mind was that he was in games with 326 freemies who would all get a bad experience and leave kinda thing. Which is possible, but doesn't really work because most of them would have been around long enough already. Also doesn't fit the wording "theherkman=326 freemies".
At the same time, I wouldn't have thought him stupid enough to boast about depriving CC of however much by creating a bunch of multies. That's a logic fail and a half.

[Arama86n]

rofl, use your brain guys, he had 1304 games active:

326 * 4 = .... 1304

He's simply (for some reason) bragging that he's taking up as much space as 326 freemiums.

[Eddy_26]

rofl, use your brain guys, he had 1304 games active:

326 * 4 = .... 1304

He's simply (for some reason) bragging that he's taking up as much space as 326 freemiums.

Well yeah...guess I just thought he wasn't quite that dumb. Don't know why, all the signs point to it

[padsta]

rofl, use your brain guys, he had 1304 games active:

326 * 4 = .... 1304

He's simply (for some reason) bragging that he's taking up as much space as 326 freemiums.

this is what i meant

[Woodruff]

rofl, use your brain guys, he had 1304 games active:
326 * 4 = .... 1304
He's simply (for some reason) bragging that he's taking up as much space as 326 freemiums.

If that is indeed the case, then what would be the point of that statement? My contention is that it doesn't make sense based on motive. What's his motive for bothering to say that? What's his point?

That's why I do not believe that's the case. I believe theherkman is instead attempting to go out in a blaze of glory, and that's his way of attempting to stick it to Andy.

[lord voldemort]

i think this is getting a bit off topic.

[Woodruff]

i think this is getting a bit off topic.

Not necessarily. If this is his way of "giving CC the big FU", then it's relevant, I would say.

[greenoaks]

imo, this is correct

rofl, use your brain guys, he had 1304 games active:

326 * 4 = .... 1304

He's simply (for some reason) bragging that he's taking up as much space as 326 freemiums.

we all know he has something against mods. it is in his sig & his latest actions against JoshyBoy. it is his way to stick it to the site

that figure is also important because it means he is claiming all those games as his own and not passing any on to JoshyBoy

all this makes me think he had no intention to play those game but was attempting to 'push' it as far as he could. ie. be intentionally annoying

does this site have a punishment for that ?

[Arama86n]

Jesus guys, let's just drop it. Making some pathetic immature stunt into a full blown conspiracy theory is exactly what wets the panties of useless trolls, so don't.

[basic_man2010_20]

he point dumbed didn'ttake this long to bann buddy.... bann him already and get over it

[AndyDufresne]

he point dumbed didn'ttake this long to bann buddy.... bann him already and get over it

We're looking into it all of the data of the 1000+ games. KA, myself, and the Multi Hunters are all working on it.


--Andy

[L M S]

He (or someone sitting for him who went unnamed) played turn finally in this one.
Game 8251807

[Caymanmew]

he point dumbed didn'ttake this long to bann buddy.... bann him already and get over it

chances are there going to point reset it so who cares if they take there time?

[phantomzero]

Ouch. He's now won a few games and takes 100 points in each. This is crazy!

Game 8274080

[Woodruff]

he point dumbed didn'ttake this long to bann buddy.... bann him already and get over it

chances are there going to point reset it so who cares if they take there time?

Because he's taking massive points away from others while they f*ck around with it.

[Lubawski]

Anyone who is familiar with CC would be very aware that with a huge number of active games many turns would be missed, play would be sloppy and lots of games and points would be lost.

He would have had to have about 10 active sitters to reasonably cover them all.

well he did have some sitters i know of 3 so far.

aog
lfaw
joshyboy.

and i think there was a few more that i have heard of. As to the point of should the players that gained be punished no they should not. they joined these games to help him break a record, there was a thread and if you notice he did not start missing any turns till he had broke the record. So nobody expected this to happen.

Hold on, isn't starting games knowing you cannot take the turns against the rules in the first place. Why start games that you know a sitter would have to cover? Why would a mod be one of those sitters? The 3 people covering him are taking his turns in some of these games that he knows he can't do. I think a rule change needs to be in effect so this doesn't happen again. It's completely unfair to those still in games with him. I'm shocked that a mod is one of his sitters. He should know better.

Kick him off the site for good. This kind of foolishness is unacceptable. I'm surprised he can hammer away on the keys of his computer with dumb ideas like this.

[alster]

It's completely unfair to those still in games with him. I'm shocked that a mod is one of his sitters. He should know better.

I agree - the only reasonable course of action would have been to let the games run out with theherkman deadbeating (if not close down the games all together) and let the "winners" get 0 points. To go in and mess with the games with the score close to 0 and two missed turns, jez - talk about kicking some players in the groin for no reason. Having a mod doing it leaves an additional foul taste to it.

[Qwert]

" agree - the only reasonable course of action would have been to let the games run out with theherkman deadbeating (if not close down the games all together) and let the "winners" get 0 points. To go in and mess with the games with the score close to 0 and two missed turns, jez - talk about kicking some players in the groin for no reason. Having a mod doing it leaves an additional foul taste to it."
OK,i have one question-if we what left to play with theherrkman will get zero points,then what will be with other who manage to take 300-400 points from theherkman, i think that these solution to ban hem out of game, and left to deadbeat,its not fair.
Fair solution will be to move everything back,like whas before hes "Record Attempt" and then ban hem from CC-then everything will be ok,for everybody.

[alster]

OK,i have one question-if we what left to play with theherrkman will get zero points,then what will be with other who manage to take 300-400 points from theherkman, i think that these solution to ban hem out of game, and left to deadbeat,its not fair.
Fair solution will be to move everything back,like whas before hes "Record Attempt" and then ban hem from CC-then everything will be ok,for everybody.

Well, I don't see how people loosing 100 points a game due to a mod jumping in taking turns for a deadbeat makes things "fairer".

The points lost are poinst lost, no bid deal, those points would have continued to circulate in the CC system and not cause an inflation more than 999-1000 (doubtful that theherkman would have reached lower than 1). Now there's less inflation, perhaps even deflation if theherkman gets banned with more than 1000 points.

To delete 1300 games permanently and retroactively seems a lot of work for little general benefit.

[jigger1986]

" agree - the only reasonable course of action would have been to let the games run out with theherkman deadbeating (if not close down the games all together) and let the "winners" get 0 points. To go in and mess with the games with the score close to 0 and two missed turns, jez - talk about kicking some players in the groin for no reason. Having a mod doing it leaves an additional foul taste to it."
OK,i have one question-if we what left to play with theherrkman will get zero points,then what will be with other who manage to take 300-400 points from theherkman, i think that these solution to ban hem out of game, and left to deadbeat,its not fair.
Fair solution will be to move everything back,like whas before hes "Record Attempt" and then ban hem from CC-then everything will be ok,for everybody.

Ive got to disagree here qwert.
As of now I am up about 500 points thanks to Herk.HE deadbeated on me in about 100 games, but from those games I won about 80 points.
In the last 2 days Ive lost at least 500 points to herk as hes been allowed to play the rest of his games, and I'll going to lose more, hes winning at least 20 of our remaining games, about 180 remain. Whatever happens happens, but Ive had to play every turn, knowing that I'll gain 0-2 points. Ive beat him legitimately in over 200 games, where he didnt deadbeat, and only missed 1 turn for a total of about 600 points, all of which ive since lost to his 4 wins against me. I think for someone who played 25-50 games w/ him its easy to say "do a point reset" but I played 501! Lots of hours, lots of turns and lots of legitimate wins. I deserve those points. Saying this I'll be changing my mind really fast if I end up with a lower score than when I started, about 2200.
EIther way, the mods have the final say, but plz dont penalize me for some moron.
Ban him, remove all the remaining games, give me the win and 0 points, or just erase them completely, so he doesnt bleed me to 1000 points.

[Masli]

lol @ but from those games I won about 80 points.

[jigger1986]

You laugh but what I meant was from the games he deadbeated in I won about 80 points. The majority of the wins Ive gotten from herk were in games where he took his turns. Like I said he deadbeated in about 100 games, I won legitimately in about 200 games, and we have about 200 games left.

For example, Ive won 30 games this morning against herk, I average 6 points per game, thats 180 points, just off 30 games. Herk took his turns in all these games, and lost them fairly. Should I be punished for this?

edit- I'll be happy to give a mutli hunter/admin my pw so they can look at my recently finished games to see for themselves.

[Qwert]

Dont understand each other- i dont say nothing against legitimate win- i say that its not be ok,if mods kick hem now,when he play a games, just let hem to finish these games,and then do what its nesesery.
If i lost against player who miss two turn,and then come back and defeat me,then i dont deserve to win. If you say,that these points will be in scoreboard,then mods all ready make first step(strip hem from premium,and not alove hem to make more games), then you leave hem,to finish what he start,and then when all game finish, give final decision.
I think that these is enough clear.

[sonicsteve]

Posted on behalf of theherkman

For anyone who is wondering what the f*ck is going on...

New postby theherkman on Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:25 pm
I would like this posted in the my record thread or in the C & A thread if someone could.

On Thursday morning (The 6th) I created all the games. I was planning on taking the first set of turns (1000 or so) when I got off work at 10pm CST. When I got home in the evening the internet was not working. Since it isn't my connection, but rather my neighbors, I was stuck waiting until she fixed it. I had a few drinks while I was trying to get it to work and was not about to go anywhere to play so I decided to wait until the next morning. If I played before 9am, I wouldn't miss any turns.

On Friday morning (The 7th) I didn't wake up until sometime later than I would have liked. As I mentioned, I had some amount of alcohol the night before. When I did wake up I went to Caribou to try and salvage my turns, but ended up in a minor fender bender. Not enough to completely f*ck up my day, but just enough to piss me off. I had some work stuff come up (My 1st job) as I was trying to deal with the car and just couldn't get on until that night at work (My 2nd job) around 11pm CST. I played all of my turns then, 1100 something.

On Saturday morning (The 8th) my internet at home was still not working. I had worked for the last 16 hours and was too tired to drive somewhere and take turns. So I got on at work to play (My 2nd job) at 11pm. Unfortunately I only had access to chrome and ie at work (Because I forgot my laptop) and they kept crashing upon loading the "My Games" page. I'm not sure how technically minded you are, but if you check, there are two separate logins for CC. One for the forums and another for the games. Whenever you log into the games, it automatically directs you to the "My Games" page. I tried using a link to a specific game to log in, but the ad blocker (ad muncher) on my work computers strips URLs of all referral information upon submitting a form.

On Sunday evening (The 9th) my internet was fixed and I resumed playing once again. I have been playing all my games since then and have not missed a single turn since.

There are several things I am being accused of that are not true. They are as follows: 300+ multis, point dumping, throwing games, choosing not to play, creating 1300 games before leaving CC. And for those of you who keep posting on my wall about a sitter taking my turns. f*ck off. Everytime I have been on taking turns somebody posts on my wall about how my sitter should stop. I'm the one taking my turns when you posted that shit.

[Lubawski]

Sounds plausible. My only question is this: if you know that you work 2 jobs (up to 16 hours per day) and you don't have reliable internet because you pirate your neighbor's connection, why would you start over 3000 games?