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Gentlemen, It's time to go to war. The enemies weapons... Babies. It's time we go to war against babies. American soldiers will be shipped of to China, India, and Indonesia to kill as many babies as they see. Gods speed.
I suggest we fight fire with fire instead...we need to make more babies!
oVo wrote:Joe McCarthy wrote:The US and the West will eventually lose the actual war, which is demographics. In Europe the birthrates are way below replacement, in the US only a little better. There are a heck of alot more people that hate Western culture than like it, and they are multiplying while the West is dying off. They dont even need tanks to take over. All they need to do is what they are doing, having a bunch of babies and moving to western countries. In Europe it's already been happening for a while and the US will follow suit eventually. We are toast, what we see around us is the ending of a civilization.
So you're thinking along the lines of a luke warm demographic invasion? Which is not actually a war at all but essentially just the nature of this World. The irony of mutts worrying about future generations of mutts because some nations aren't procreating fast enough to keep up is really hilarious. DNA contains the genetic instructions used in the development of all living things and 99.9 percent of human DNA is the same in all people, meaning that only 0.1 percent of our DNA is unique!Joe McCarthy wrote:We are toast
Genetically the difference between toast and humans is miniscule,
so the truth of that statement might be...
we are almost toast!
The forces of the National People's Army and the Combat Groups of the Working Class held no ill-will toward enlisted personnel and non-commissioned officers of the occupation armies and all appreciated the Americans, French and British for the logistical support they had given the USSR in the liberation of Germany.
Joe McCarthy wrote:Yeah here you go: First of all on the feelings of muslims towards sharia in the west take a look at this poll of muslim students in England. What you will find is that a very large number want a worldwide caliphate and believe violence in pursuit of their religion is acceptable.
http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/blog/2009/12/islam-on-campus.html
So between those two things you have a start on your research if you are actually interested. One gives you the demographic outlook and one gives you some idea of how the newcomers want the government of their new home to be like.
The Centre for Social Cohesion has made a press release available on the relationship between the government and Muslim students in the UK. They have placed special emphasis on the Federation of Students Islamic Societies in the UK and Ireland (FOSIS), which is worth printing out in full:
From November the UK government will begin working with the Federation of Student Islamic Societies in the UK and Ireland (FOSIS) to try to better understand Muslim students. This policy is likely to backfire given that FOSIS are unrepresentative of Muslim students and regularly give a platform to extremist speakers.
The Department of Innovation, Universities and Skills (DIUS) has announced plans to “commission a study exploring the views and attitudes of Muslim students in England” involving a poll of 1500 Muslim students and focus groups, overseen by a steering group consisting of representatives from the National Union of Students (NUS), the Department of Communities and Local Government (DCLG) and FOSIS.
FOSIS leaders are influenced heavily by a narrow form of political Islam, inspired by Islamist parties such as Jamaat-e-islami and the Muslim Brotherhood, and the group regularly gives a platform to extremist speakers at British and Irish universities.
In November FOSIS will give a platform to Dr Azzam Tamimi at universities in the UK and Ireland on at least three separate occasions. Tamimi will speak at the FOSIS Palestine Conference 2008 at Nottingham University on 1st November and two events at Trinity College in Ireland on “Islamic Revivalism in the 20th Century” and “Chronicles of Islamic Political Thought” on 7th and 8th November.
Azzam Tamimi is a senior member of the Muslim Association of Britain, the British wing of the Muslim Brotherhood, who has been criticised for his alleged links to Hamas and his public comments justifying suicide bombing and inciting jihad against non-Muslims. In 2006 he told one BBC interviewer: “if I can go to Palestine and sacrifice myself I would do it.” Tamimi is also an opponent of Muslim integration. Speaking at an event in Manchester in August 2006 he told the audience, “We are Muslims in Europe, not European Muslims.”
Contrary to government beliefs, FOSIS is not representative of Muslim students. FOSIS represents and is made up of – as its name makes clear – Islamic Society (ISOC) members. A poll carried out by YouGov and the Centre for Social Cohesion of over 600 Muslim students earlier this year found that those active in their campus ISOC only make up 11.25% of Muslim students. The survey also found that active ISOC members are more likely to subscribe to Islamist beliefs as well as being more likely to support religious violence, punishing Muslims who convert to other religions and the introduction of a worldwide caliphate based on Sharia law.
Douglas Murray, the director of the Centre for Social Cohesion, says:
“The government is right to identify the need to better understand the Muslim student population. Muslim students hold a diverse and broad range of beliefs and opinions. However, relying on FOSIS as a consultative body and treating them as representative of all Muslim students, risks disproportionately empowering a small number of highly conservative, and sometimes Islamist, individuals at the expense of the majority of Muslims.”
“The government should treat Muslim students as full, equal and diverse individuals, rather than as a bloc who can only be addressed and understood through self-appointed representatives such as FOSIS.”
Students tend to be politically idealistic at university but ardour dies away soon after they graduate and leave college or university and find themselves face to face with gritty realities beyond the leafy campuses. The question is, will most of these Muslim students lose their Islamist tendencies when they leave university? Or are these ideas and attitudes carried on by a fair number of Muslim students well after graduation?
saxitoxin wrote:hairy potter wrote:Johnny Rockets wrote:Listen, Dude.
I can go toe to toe with Saxi in the defense of Canada and Canadians.
I'll wear him out eventually but it's exhausting, time consuming and the only reason I hold my own, or have a slight edge is that I'm Right.
You're easy meat if you think you're going to win a Who's more Uber - nationalistic debate with him. He's wiki-on-wheels when it comes to history, and if that fails to pwn you, he has depths of dementia that will have you running down tangents akin to picking up a pound of spilt smatries whilst on mescaline.
You have been warned.....
Big Johnny Rockets.
he clearly has some severe cognitive impairments. his arguments lack logic, structure or continuity. the only reason one would lose an argument with him is because they gave up in exasperation
Johnny - I always like it when you get new friends. I'm triply happy, however, that you've hitched your wagon to the lead cheerleader in the England football rooting section.You planning on heading over to young Potter's place for tea and a circle jerk to fantasies of Betty the Bavarian in a lycra bodysuit? I hear KLM has a deal on trans-atlantic flights this month.
Joe McCarthy wrote:Stalinguy, whateveryourname is, I appreciate you trying to make an actual point after being a complete ass for so long. You still havent managed it. Googling until you can find an article that nitpicks the methodology of this study doesnt quite get you there. Timminz asked me for a source and I gave him his starting point, of course he should look at more evidence, I certainly have and have come to my conclusions. Now get back to dying in that fire please.
Joe McCarthy wrote:Hey thanks for asking what I would like. I formed my opinion of you based on your first two posts in my directions and told you what it was, which is that you are a twerp, a bully, and above all, a bore. So what I would like is for you to stop trying to be pals. This isnt going to ever be two fellas that disagree and about something and argue it out, its a fella that thinks the other fella should die in a fire. So go play with somebody else you twerp.
Joe McCarthy wrote:Hey thanks for asking what I would like. I formed my opinion of you based on your first two posts in my directions and told you what it was, which is that you are a twerp, a bully, and above all, a bore. So what I would like is for you to stop trying to be pals. This isnt going to ever be two fellas that disagree and about something and argue it out, its a fella that thinks the other fella should die in a fire. So go play with somebody else you twerp.
The Bison King wrote:Classic! Saxi and johnny fight about Canada while "VoP" and someone else bash each other under the guise of a debate that pit's America against the rest of the world!
This reminds me of that other thread... you know the one.... All of them.
