Klobber invite abuse [busted/closed]

[Bones2484]

But the players that Klobber usually invites are players that dont play team games, dont communicate in chat, or just flat out dont play at all. I see recently he's taking a "step up" by inviting Corporals and the company of those ranks, most likely to try to cover tracks...

He's not doing it to cover his tracks. He's doing it to maximize his point gain.

Think about it. He invites a low rank partner that he's familiar with to play with him. Then he invites terrible players (those that just hit their 6th game, those with a low turn take percentage, those with very few wins if any) and pairs them up with very high ranking players. His assumption is that the game will quickly be 2v1v1v1 as the bad players will either deadbeat out or refuse to listen to advice of their "partner".

So many of those who won't play with KLOBBER are the ones doing the griping. I do find that amusing.

One way to stop this would be for all those players with rank to accept the invites and then beat him at his own game. There have been comments in here about his ability to play the game, so prove that he sucks and beat him. When he realizes that he has to play games with "QUALITY" opponents maybe he will change his ways or come up with something different. He know that the higher ranked players that he invites will most likely decline the invite so it opens up to the public and then the cooks start marching in.

Yes. Great idea. I'd love to be forced to team up with a cook I've never met with 80% turns taken.

Stunning analysis.

Let me choose my own partner and I'll gladly play him any time.

You aren't being forced to do anything, either accept the invite or decline.

Yes, Semp, I am forced. If I listen to you to "beat him at his own game" I'd be forced to team up with a cook that I've never met with no wins and a tons of missed turns. Beating him at his own game would entail getting a low ranked partner of my choosing in there, but that is impossible to do with how he sends invites out.

So how about the next time you decide to call us "gripers" out, you try to understand what's going on first and why it's so annoying getting these game invites?

I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I'm upset at receiving these invites. Not that he's farming. Honestly who cares if he's farming? He's been "farming" for years and his rank still sucks.

[Pedronicus]

Hey semp, if you could achieve a 3000+ score and deal with all the stupid join me in a game pm's we get, you might just understand a bit more.
When it's done by klobber to everyone on the first page of the leader-board to partner someone in the last page of the leader-board - it's taking the fucking piss pal.

[eddie2]

once again he would not of been able 2 send these invites before the invite feature was updated. he is using the new invite system 2 harass players. so he should be stopped from doing it. i have read people getting one invite posting in here that he is taking the piss and have dropped the game. i then see klobbers name looking at c and a and these players are getting invites again after they have said they would not join them.

so what is he guilty of just now

spamming pm boxes.
making the site less enjoyable for players.
abusing the invite system(by spamming and harassing the said players)

[trapyoung]

Like eddie said, he's just doing it to be an ass and have people talk about him. He's a creature who craves attention and enabling any features of the site to him allows him to abuse it to create that attention. First he annoys everyone by foeing them. Now he annoys everyone by pairing them with cooks so he can usurp some cook's password and win the game easy and make it so no capable team is able to compete. The site has banned uber-trolls before and here is one now. Just because he doesn't have multiple accounts doesn't mean he's not undermining the quality of site and just generally pissing off the site at large. The rules talk about protecting the majority's enjoyment of the site and if it is something that is actually valued than some type of action will be taken.

Evil Semp, if you don't know what rule applies how about any rule applying to trolling, spamming, or just the general 'gross abuse' of the site. He's attempting to throw games by pairing the first page with the last and if that's not absolutely clear as crystal I have no idea how you're a mod because it is absolutely open and shut. So what if none of the high ranks fall for it, look at Klobber's games and you will see certain members have fallen for it. And dictating the type of team that can be played against is worse than simple manipulation of the foe system because new competent players could come in and still win. But here he's guaranteed members on the bottom pages of the site, with win %'s below 15% and with % of turns taken varying between 50 and 80% pretty much ensures Klobber can win easily.

Edit: As LV says sometimes in secret diplomacy cases, "poor play does not mean secret diplomacy." Well the reverse is true here, just because he can get his rank or **** up doesn't mean it's not abuse. Poor play does not mean legit tactics.

[L M S]

Game 7499235

Team 4 open. Anyone?

[Evil Semp]

Hey semp, if you could achieve a 3000+ score and deal with all the stupid join me in a game pm's we get, you might just understand a bit more.
When it's done by klobber to everyone on the first page of the leader-board to partner someone in the last page of the leader-board - it's taking the fucking piss pal.

Believe me I am trying to understand even though I don't think I will make the first page of the leader board.

Are you just getting to many invites because you are on the first page of the leader board?

Are you getting to many invites from KLOBBER?

Would it be abuse if he was inviting two high ranked players to each team who didn't play team games, or never played a game together?

Or is the problem the fact the it is KLOBBER who is doing this.?

[Bones2484]

Why was this combined? Pedro's thread was not about farming.

[lord voldemort]

Hey semp, if you could achieve a 3000+ score and deal with all the stupid join me in a game pm's we get, you might just understand a bit more.
When it's done by klobber to everyone on the first page of the leader-board to partner someone in the last page of the leader-board - it's taking the fucking piss pal.

I have got a +3000 score before and i still dont get it...no one is pointing a gun at your head to play....no one is forcing you to play klobber at all....I would even guess most of you just ignore him and go about your business...same think i have been doing

[Bones2484]

Hey semp, if you could achieve a 3000+ score and deal with all the stupid join me in a game pm's we get, you might just understand a bit more.
When it's done by klobber to everyone on the first page of the leader-board to partner someone in the last page of the leader-board - it's taking the fucking piss pal.

I have got a +3000 score before and i still dont get it...no one is pointing a gun at your head to play....no one is forcing you to play klobber at all....I would even guess most of you just ignore him and go about your business...same think i have been doing

His point is that KLOBBER is sending invites constantly to those with high ranks (to team with deadbeat cooks we've never played with). And when we get said invites, they pop up on our game page. It's terribly annoying.

This isnt a simple "foe and move on". Foeing does not block this.

[king achilles]

THIS ISN'T A CLEARED SUBJECT LV. IT'S AN ONGOING ABUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH.....

I merged the first report and this duplicate thread made by Pedronicus. Please do not test the line. If you know there is already an existing report, do not make another extension report until you get what you want to hear or else you could be a candidate for making a spurious report.

There are no current limitations of what one can do with a game invitation.There are no current precedents about it either. So you guys found something that you think KLOBBER should not be doing. Your suggestions and the team is already figuring out how to fix this issue. For me, it all boils down to playing low ranked players once again. If KLOBBER was only inviting high ranked players, would this report of game invite abuse been made?

As for the spam for receiving game invites, would we also consider game invites coming from other players as spam as well even if we have also rejected their invites in the past? Should game invites be restricted to players that we only know or have played before? If someone we have not played before sends us a game invite, should we consider that as spam?

[lord voldemort]

Has anyone asked him to stop?

[trapyoung]

If someone we have not played before sends us a game invite, should we consider that as spam?

Yes, unless it's a tournament or a pre-arranged callout/match

[Bones2484]

Has anyone asked him to stop?

Sure. Let me write on his wall.

Oh wait. I'm foed.

Ok. Let me send him a PM.

Oh wait. He's forum banned and can't read them.

I merged the first report and this duplicate thread made by Pedronicus. Please do not test the line. If you know there is already an existing report, do not make another extension report until you get what you want to hear or else you could be a candidate for making a spurious report.

I don't want to beat this to death, but doesn't it really seem silly to threaten Pedro when KLOBBER is the one toeing the line? The old thread was closed and moved to another forum. After that was done, KLOBBER started spamming the high ranks with invites to games. That had nothing to do with the original report (which was a farming accusation), so a new one was made.

If KLOBBER was only inviting high ranked players, would this report of game invite abuse been made?

Why even bother asking questions that you know full well would never happen? But the thread probably would have been made... just because of said player's history.

[lord voldemort]

well the 2 threads are definately related to 'invite abuse' so yer it does make sense that this could be seen that way.

[Chariot of Fire]

Paragraph 1 of the Rules:

Cheaters and troublemakers detract from the gaming experience of all Conquer Club players, and proactive measures are employed to protect our membership. Conquer Club reserves the right to suspend accounts and cancel Premium Memberships, with or without warning, of those players who are deemed to have violated the rules.

Now here is the classic case of a troublemaker. Not only is he employing underhand and annoying tactics which has riled a large section of the CC community, but he also has a history which has warranted forum bans. Will anyone miss this guy if he's gone?

I would like to see Admin take the 'proactive measures' of which they speak to protect its membership and immediately suspend or cancel this account. Use the powers of your authority and uphold the Rules which govern the site rather than respond on this thread with half-baked ideas on how we, the fair-minded and fee-paying majority, have to take steps in order that we accommodate this pariah in our community.

Make an example, let it be a lesson to all would-be-abusers that the Rules will be upheld, and stamp out this nonsense once and for all.

[Incandenza]

Yeah, pretty much what Chariot said, tho I probably would've said it with a lot more profanity.

Oh, and the veiled threat against Pedro was totally uncalled for. Team CC has a way of sweeping matters that they don't want to deal with under the rug, and the fact the klobber had been cleared well before all the facts were in absolutely warranted a fresh thread (and even then it took a few days for someone with more authority than lovo to deign to drop by).

[Woodruff]

Paragraph 1 of the Rules:

Cheaters and troublemakers detract from the gaming experience of all Conquer Club players, and proactive measures are employed to protect our membership. Conquer Club reserves the right to suspend accounts and cancel Premium Memberships, with or without warning, of those players who are deemed to have violated the rules.

Now here is the classic case of a troublemaker. Not only is he employing underhand and annoying tactics which has riled a large section of the CC community, but he also has a history which has warranted forum bans. Will anyone miss this guy if he's gone?

I would like to see Admin take the 'proactive measures' of which they speak to protect its membership and immediately suspend or cancel this account. Use the powers of your authority and uphold the Rules which govern the site rather than respond on this thread with half-baked ideas on how we, the fair-minded and fee-paying majority, have to take steps in order that we accommodate this pariah in our community.

Make an example, let it be a lesson to all would-be-abusers that the Rules will be upheld, and stamp out this nonsense once and for all.

I lend my strong support to Chariot of Fire's statements here (hopefully that doesn't count as a negative...).

[waseemalim]

if he is forum banned, how did he pick up the emmdizzle method? Since when has he been forum banned?

Now the real question is, does he have a multi with which he reads the forums... I actually find it very hard to believe that a personality such as klobber's could be anything other than a schizophrenic projection of some esteemed CC member's dark side (a la EagleofGreenEarth).

[Darwins_Bane]

forum banned means you can still read forums, just not pms and no posting on walls, and until recently no invites.

[Woodruff]

if he is forum banned, how did he pick up the emmdizzle method? Since when has he been forum banned?

He can still READ the forums...he just can't post.

[the.killing.44]

Has anyone asked him to stop?

Most unintentionally funny post 2010.

[Pedronicus]

I'd get better service and more intelligent decisions if Lack were to hand the admin control over to a room with 25 chimpanzees and a laptop.

[TheSaxlad]

I'd get better service and more intelligent decisions if Lack were to hand the admin control over to a room with 25 chimpanzees and a laptop.

Interestingly, That isn't going to happen...

Paragraph 1 of the Rules:

Cheaters and troublemakers detract from the gaming experience of all Conquer Club players, and proactive measures are employed to protect our membership. Conquer Club reserves the right to suspend accounts and cancel Premium Memberships, with or without warning, of those players who are deemed to have violated the rules.

Now here is the classic case of a troublemaker. Not only is he employing underhand and annoying tactics which has riled a large section of the CC community, but he also has a history which has warranted forum bans. Will anyone miss this guy if he's gone?

I would like to see Admin take the 'proactive measures' of which they speak to protect its membership and immediately suspend or cancel this account. Use the powers of your authority and uphold the Rules which govern the site rather than respond on this thread with half-baked ideas on how we, the fair-minded and fee-paying majority, have to take steps in order that we accommodate this pariah in our community.

Make an example, let it be a lesson to all would-be-abusers that the Rules will be upheld, and stamp out this nonsense once and for all.

And I completely agree with this statement, in fact something needs to be done about this.

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[Chariot of Fire]

I'd get better service and more intelligent decisions if Lack were to hand the admin control over to a room with 25 chimpanzees and a laptop.

Oh come on Pedro, seriously; there was no need for that remark. I'll have you know the chimpanzee is both a logical-thinking and highly-social creature.

(p.s. I had always wondered who really played your turns for you!)

[eddie2]

omg ka i did have alot of respect for your comments until i read this

merged the first report and this duplicate thread made by Pedronicus. Please do not test the line. If you know there is already an existing report, do not make another extension report until you get what you want to hear or else you could be a candidate for making a spurious report.

case was closed when this thread was started and like what has been said by mods in many other cases if there is somthing new open a new report

if you had followed this from the start.

first case was klobber only inviting 1 chef for each opposition team.

lc cleared this

klobber now starts inviting high ranks to join the games even after they are dropped by these players he reinvites them.

then comes this total dumb comment from a mod.

Has anyone asked him to stop?


now lv knows that klobber is on a forum ban. and if he had bothered 2 read the comments on this thread would know that klobber has these players foed. so how do they make it so klobber can read that they dont want the invites

hummmm let me think. this is really hard to work out.

ow yes start a thread to say he is abusing the invites.

now klobber has read this as i have seen him in this thread looking at it. how does klobber respond he sends more invites 2 these players.

now we come 2 the case like what has been said by many people on this site.

admit when you are wrong lv klobber is abusing the system he is making the site less enjoyable for players. he should not be on the site.

like the mods are so quick 2 say only 3 percent of the site use the forum of that 3 percent

2 percent are telling you 2 put a stop to this.



but like other cases lv is wrong with his decission but through his big ego he will not admit to being wrong and other mods will just come in here and back him up.