eragon game thread. day 5. end game

[safariguy5]

I am not looking forward to another no lynch day. I say that we pick between safariguy and edcosil, they seem to have very strange claims, although I am open to suggestions. One thing to think about, mafia/town lovers pairs do exist, so it is possible that one of them could be telling the truth and the other lying...

There's only one problem to that. He's claiming town and I'm claiming third party. When we both die, this means 2 less people scum have to worry about. Since I'm recruiter from

I thought I did verify, well whatever, Yes Safari is a recruiter, for sure.
Also, I still talk to Cena.

chances are that I'll die when trying to recruit a scum person anyways. Why waste a lynch killing two people who will probably die to a failed scum recruit anyways? I personally think we should lynch Thez because he's not posted, not been replaced, and not been claimed in any town or third party mason group.

[wercool]

i also sent prodds to requested people.

[edocsil]

I will hold my vote for one more day, but if any of the inactives haven't posted by then they will earn my vote. Thezzy seems the one to have the most momentum behind him and will likely be my choice.

FOS Spiesr, he is blatantly suggesting to kill as many town and third partiers as possible. There is no question that I am safari's lover, I do not see why he desires to see us both lynched. I could see a desire to lynch one of us for one reason or another but he knows full well that if one of us dies the other does as well. Especially when i can so easily prove the authenticy of my claim after tonight I do not understand whey he thinks it is a good idea to kill me. If I thought I could successfully push a vote against him, I would vote to lynch him in a heartbeat.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Well, this is really complicated. They both claim innocence. If they both turn up non-scum, this game will have made a large turn for the worse. But with edocsil's sketchy claim its hard to just let them off... Personally I say just pray for the best and lynch one, but if anyone else has any ideas I'm open ears.

edocsil, even if the two of you are lovers, that doesnt help your case at all. I've been in games where a scum and a town were lovers before. In fact, its not that uncommon. And having a knight in love with arya doesnt fit with the story at all. And claiming knight also seems a little sketchy. In my pm it says that I'm the king's guard. Doesnt that imply that I'm a knight? And why would a knight be a recruiter? on top of all that, having two recruiters (what you're recruiting to is still confusing to me) in this game is a little bit of a stretch as well. Could you still be town after all that? possibly. Do I think so? no. Sorry edocsil.

And if you targeted cena last night (like you told me) then wouldnt he be in your recruited group? Why then was he the first to ask what you recruited people to? All in all, your claim raises more questions than answers.

And the idea behind lynching thez due to inactivity seems like grasping at straws this late in the game. A first day lynch I could see us doing it, but after a good portion of the members have been killed (mostly mod-killed but regardless) I think we can do better than that.

[edocsil]

DO you not under stand this? Wercool screwed up my role pm bad. I have said the truth every time. Earlier when we found that my role was making less and less sense I pmed wercool, and he changed my role. Day one I WAS a jailkeeper, thats why cena was roleblocked day 1. Today (mafia time) I am now Knight because wercool sent me a new pm. Why don't ask wercool if you can pm now? You should also have a written response that you could then. and I can guarantee that with my new role I am no longer masoned with you, only our dead king.

I recruit to TOWN, the blue guys, I have said this before..

As for my logic behind Thez, well he was active late day 1 meaning that he was likely active night one. Therefore could theoretically be one of the kull who killed naxus, one that is just submarining now. I don't see anyone who looks like scum who is posting now, besides me, safari, and spiesr. I do not want to lynch safari because it will kill me. I don't think spiesr is scum, I think he just has win requirements that don't involve town needing to be alive.

Do you see anyone else who looks really scummy beyond me and safari? I don't see anyone we can hope to agree to lynch beyond Thezzy. Someone has already voted for him, I bring the vote to two. If I can convince you two to lynch him and not me the vote is up to 4. I am fairly certain that getting the last 3 votes is easy, people will bandwagon. We will lose this game if we cant lynch some scum real soon.

[wercool]

vote count
edocsil 2 ( mr squirrle spiesr)
thezarus 1 (safariguy)
12 alive 6 to lynch.
deadline in ~60 hours.

[safariguy5]

DO you not under stand this? Wercool screwed up my role pm bad. I have said the truth every time. Earlier when we found that my role was making less and less sense I pmed wercool, and he changed my role. Day one I WAS a jailkeeper, thats why cena was roleblocked day 1. Today (mafia time) I am now Knight because wercool sent me a new pm. Why don't ask wercool if you can pm now? You should also have a written response that you could then. and I can guarantee that with my new role I am no longer masoned with you, only our dead king.

I recruit to TOWN, the blue guys, I have said this before..

As for my logic behind Thez, well he was active late day 1 meaning that he was likely active night one. Therefore could theoretically be one of the kull who killed naxus, one that is just submarining now. I don't see anyone who looks like scum who is posting now, besides me, safari, and spiesr. I do not want to lynch safari because it will kill me. I don't think spiesr is scum, I think he just has win requirements that don't involve town needing to be alive.

Do you see anyone else who looks really scummy beyond me and safari? I don't see anyone we can hope to agree to lynch beyond Thezzy. Someone has already voted for him, I bring the vote to two. If I can convince you two to lynch him and not me the vote is up to 4. I am fairly certain that getting the last 3 votes is easy, people will bandwagon. We will lose this game if we cant lynch some scum real soon.

That someone would be me. Look, you're role doesn't make much sense to me either. However, I think that it could be partly due to a mistake during modding. I know that it's not a popular reason, but given the experience of the mod, I would say that it's a likely one.

[spiesr]

DO you not under stand this? Wercool screwed up my role pm bad. I have said the truth every time. Earlier when we found that my role was making less and less sense I pmed wercool, and he changed my role. Day one I WAS a jailkeeper, thats why cena was roleblocked day 1. Today (mafia time) I am now Knight because wercool sent me a new pm. Why don't ask wercool if you can pm now? You should also have a written response that you could then. and I can guarantee that with my new role I am no longer masoned with you, only our dead king.

If that is really the case the wercool should be unblocking cenarules and recruiting him to your side as would be what actually should have happened last night. If this happens then cena should be able to confirm your claim, of recruitment powers at least, correct?

[MeDeFe]

I'm just posting to show that I'm still around, I have nothing to add because I don't quite know what to make of things.

[edocsil]

I'm just posting to show that I'm still around, I have nothing to add because I don't quite know what to make of things.

I would call that lame. Add something cause right now we need a lynch and don't have much time.

[duday53]

So nobody has claimed that thez is in their mason group? I'm going to say that if we can't make a decision.. then we should go with thez for a lynch in the last 24 hours

[edocsil]

Exactly my point. I am betting pretty hard that he and medefe are scum. mainly due to the fact that most everyone else is accounted for one way or another

[duday53]

Its pretty much the last 24, so vote thez

[wercool]

vote count
edocsil 2(mr squirrle spiesr)
thezarus 2 (safariguy duday)
32 hours till deadline

[edocsil]

duday do you mind placing your vote now? we need to get a bit of momentum going otherwise the straglers are just going to wait this out, and then we will have two days no lynch, a rather pathetic way to lose the game.

[safariguy5]

duday do you mind placing your vote now? we need to get a bit of momentum going otherwise the straglers are just going to wait this out, and then we will have two days no lynch, a rather pathetic way to lose the game.

He just did...did you get fastposted?

[Mr. Squirrel]

duday do you mind placing your vote now? we need to get a bit of momentum going otherwise the straglers are just going to wait this out, and then we will have two days no lynch, a rather pathetic way to lose the game.

says the guy who hasn't voted yet...

[cena-rules]

vote thez

Id rather see if edocsil is telling the truth, but this has more momentum

[Khiva]

I have a ton of questions, and it looks like I need to reread some stuff, but here goes:

@Duday, who are Medefe and Gregwolf's claimed masons?
@Edocsil, I don't know about Thez, but the other two are around (which would be a priority for me I really wanted scum) if not active, if they're scum why aren't they voting to lynch you? (well besides apathy for the setup), So Wercool sent you the wrong PM (cubfan's) then let you preform night actions as the wrong role without noticing? Then when you PMed him he realized it was a mistake but didn't switch the modkilled player's role or provide any public comment but gave you a different role, and your not getting what people are having trouble understanding? Why did you claim so quickly after Naxus's death? Esp since Squirrel's role block had already failed which doesn't that make it kinda suicidal?
@Safari If Arya's allied with Eragon, and I get not wanting to die but if your third party and he is not, and two cults shouldn't win together anyway, and if cult's comm with old mason cells (still in them) then why would you leave a rival alive to compromise your own allies/cult when you are going to have to die anyway? (I guess if it was the last two standing but that's not a reason to help you)
Also I was hoping someone with more Eragon knowledge would have commented on the setup in general but on Edocsil's in particular as the Cult leader Knight is kinda odd...

vote count
edocsil 2(mr squirrle spiesr)
thezarus 2 (safariguy duday)
32 hours till deadline

Unless my vote was stolen you deleted both of Cena's instead of switching the one that was mine for Edocsil. Also anything else you want to apologize for offhand?

[safariguy5]

I have a ton of questions, and it looks like I need to reread some stuff, but here goes:

@Safari If Arya's allied with Eragon, and I get not wanting to die but if your third party and he is not, and two cults shouldn't win together anyway, and if cult's comm with old mason cells (still in them) then why would you leave a rival alive to compromise your own allies/cult when you are going to have to die anyway? (I guess if it was the last two standing but that's not a reason to help you)

He's claiming town. I rather get rid of scum because scum could easily win the game if two power roles were lynched during the day and 1 scum kill during the night could really swing the game.

[Khiva]

Then you do believe his claim. How does it swing the game? If your claims are true your power roles don't matter to them, and with the questionable claims proven or disproven the scum are revealed.

[safariguy5]

Then you do believe his claim. How does it swing the game? If your claims are true your power roles don't matter to them, and with the questionable claims proven or disproven the scum are revealed.

It will swing the game because if 2 power roles die in the lynch (due to the lover mechanic) and have 1 night kill to pick off another claimed role (eragon, jailkeeper, etc.) then the scum would have a superior position. I'd rather pressure an unclaimed person into a claim and possibly set them up for a counterclaim. This is especially true because of the multiple mason groups which means players can verify or disprove for each other.

[Khiva]

Unless their immune to lynching how is it superior, and if that's the case why try to pressure the guy who hasn't been seen for weeks? Medefe has posted, and Gregwolf was online Wed.

[safariguy5]

I think that an unlynchable role would be overpowered based on the people who have been killed. Submarining is a common scum tactic, and no mason group has claimed Thez as a member, which means he's probably scum given the fact that most players have claimed or been cleared through mason groups.

This is going to be a moot point anyways, since we're probably not going to get the votes to get a lynch at this rate, allowing scum 1 free kill.

[Mr. Squirrel]

I think that an unlynchable role would be overpowered based on the people who have been killed. Submarining is a common scum tactic, and no mason group has claimed Thez as a member, which means he's probably scum given the fact that most players have claimed or been cleared through mason groups.

This is going to be a moot point anyways, since we're probably not going to get the votes to get a lynch at this rate, allowing scum 1 free kill.

Voting someone who isnt contributing to the game is one thing but voting someone who just isnt there is another. Voting thez will get us no information and no leads since he has contributed nothing. Could he come up as scum? Yes, of course. But if he doesnt, then his death helps us in no way whatsoever. Lynching anyone else could bring more information than his death could.