Napoleonic Europe 1812 - Ver 41/44 [Quenched]

[j2_john]

I recommend this map (Napolean 1812) for beta testing. Let's play it.

[natty dread]

I recommend this map (Napolean 1812) for beta testing. Let's play it.

Nice try, but it doesn't work like that...

[ender516]

I recommend this map (Napolean 1812) for beta testing. Let's play it.

Nice try, but it doesn't work like that...

Hey, he's new around here (first post!). Let's read it as his recommendation for the Graphics Stamp.

[natty dread]

Sure. Let's do that

[Raskholnikov]

Actually, to debate the curvature of an dotted line arch connecting Sicily to Naples is no less esoteric than the Middle Age attempts to divine how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. From now onwards, any further changes and delays are purely for the purpose to have this map "do time", and is totally unncessary. We should get the green light to proceeed with the XML coding. Objectively, there is no reason not to move swiftly towards Beta given the quality of the work Kab put in. But of course, if you all desire spending another few months debating the shade of the title and the curvature of a connecting line or the number of millimeters a capital logo should be moved south so as not to interfere with the arch of th Ottoman Empire name.... who am I to say otherwise?! lol

[chipv]

Actually, to debate the curvature of an dotted line arch connecting Sicily to Naples is no less esoteric than the Middle Age attempts to divine how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. From now onwards, any further changes and delays are purely for the purpose to have this map "do time", and is totally unncessary. We should get the green light to proceeed with the XML coding. Objectively, there is no reason not to move swiftly towards Beta given the quality of the work Kab put in. But of course, if you all desire spending another few months debating the shade of the title and the curvature of a connecting line or the number of millimeters a capital logo should be moved south so as not to interfere with the arch of th Ottoman Empire name.... who am I to say otherwise?! lol

Just taken my first look at this map and looking forward to it immensely, it is a fine piece of work.

The line between Sicily and Naples is not clear - it is clear to you because you are already aware of it.
It took me 3 attempts to even notice it, and that's because I read these posts.

I'm not interested in the curvature, just that it is clear that Sicily and Naples have a connection.

[natty dread]

how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.

It depends on the song

[Kabanellas]

Thanks guys for all your support!!!

Version 32 revised and updated:

Large map

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Small map

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[pamoa]

Actually, to debate the curvature of an dotted line arch connecting Sicily to Naples is no less esoteric than the Middle Age attempts to divine how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. From now onwards, any further changes and delays are purely for the purpose to have this map "do time", and is totally unncessary. We should get the green light to proceeed with the XML coding. Objectively, there is no reason not to move swiftly towards Beta given the quality of the work Kab put in. But of course, if you all desire spending another few months debating the shade of the title and the curvature of a connecting line or the number of millimeters a capital logo should be moved south so as not to interfere with the arch of th Ottoman Empire name.... who am I to say otherwise?! lol

Just taken my first look at this map and looking forward to it immensely, it is a fine piece of work.
The line between Sicily and Naples is not clear - it is clear to you because you are already aware of it.
It took me 3 attempts to even notice it, and that's because I read these posts.
I'm not interested in the curvature, just that it is clear that Sicily and Naples have a connection.

oh there is line never noticed it
but I must say I always thought Sicily and Naples were connected
so either the line is superfluous
or it should be more readable
I do not intend to hinder your progression
a last effort and you will reach your goal

[Kabanellas]

Already did, right above your post

[pamoa]

I posted same time as you did

[Kabanellas]

I've noticed


Well, we will need someone to come forward to take the XML position for this map.

Ender516, already sugggested he could....

[Raskholnikov]

So Andrew can't do it?

[Kabanellas]

nop...

[ender516]

Just say the word and I'll get working on the XML. It looks like I would be starting from scratch, as I don't see any versions in here so far, but that is not a problem.

[chipv]

Just say the word and I'll get working on the XML. It looks like I would be starting from scratch, as I don't see any versions in here so far, but that is not a problem.

Just a quick note, ender, I have not had time to update the XMl Wizard with the new XML changes.
The tool will thus ignore continents within objectives and also not allow to to create them at the moment.
However it will validate XML with the new continents within objectives.
I will add this on demand, so if you do need this, please let me know.

[Kabanellas]

Great Ender! Welcome aboard then!

[Raskholnikov]

Ender, would it help if i gave u a list with all territories listed with all their connecting neighbouring territories?

[ender516]

Ender, would it help if i gave u a list with all territories listed with all their connecting neighbouring territories?

That would make a good cross-check, but I think I will try to generate the XML from the map using chipv's Map XML Wizard. That might highlight any places where connections are not clear.

I will work from Version 32, posted about two days ago.

Question: Do you need to hold France to get the bonus for L'Empire?

Just say the word and I'll get working on the XML. It looks like I would be starting from scratch, as I don't see any versions in here so far, but that is not a problem.

Just a quick note, ender, I have not had time to update the XMl Wizard with the new XML changes.
The tool will thus ignore continents within objectives and also not allow to to create them at the moment.
However it will validate XML with the new continents within objectives.
I will add this on demand, so if you do need this, please let me know.

There is no rush to handle the generation of objectives using continents, provided your tool will tolerate their presence if I edit them in by hand. Clearly, this new XML feature is ideally suited to the capitals objective of this map, and I do intend to use the feature. If I have to, I can leave the objective out until all the other wizardry is complete, then add it with a text editor, but it would be nice to be able to go back to the Wizard if the situation calls for it (like, for instance, I have melted the Wicked Witch and have her broomstick ... um, sorry, wrong wizard).

[Raskholnikov]

Ender,

Question: Do you need to hold France to get the bonus for L'Empire?

Answer: Yes!

In the same way, you need all Ottoman Empire to get the Orient and Bessarabia Bonuses; all Prussia for the Warsaw and Hessen/Saxony Bonuses, all Austria for the Cracow and Illyria bonuses, all of Naples and Sicily for the Rome and Piedmont bonus.

The Rule is: hold the smaller region to get bonuses for expanding into region bonuses.

And yes, welcome and board and thank you for your help with coding!

R

[ender516]

Ender,

Question: Do you need to hold France to get the bonus for L'Empire?

Answer: Yes!

In the same way, you need all Ottoman Empire to get the Orient and Bessarabia Bonuses; all Prussia for the Warsaw and Hessen/Saxony Bonuses, all Austria for the Cracow and Illyria bonuses, all of Naples and Sicily for the Rome and Piedmont bonus.

The Rule is: hold the smaller region to get bonuses for expanding into region bonuses.

And yes, welcome and board and thank you for your help with coding!

R

Well, I asked about L'Empire in particular, because the wording in the legend is a little different. In all the other cases you mention, the legend reads something like this:

◆ 3 Kingdom of Something +1 w/Extra Territory

but with France and L'Empire it is (on the small map)

◆ 5 France ◈ L'Empire (+1 for 2 dashed regions)

and on the large map

◆ 5 France ◈ L'Empire (+1 for every 2 dashed regions)

I think it might be more consistent to say

◆ 5 France +1 per 2 dashed regions of ◈ L'Empire

Plus, using "per" is a shorter way of saying "for every" or "for each" which will fit on the small map (where "for every" does not). It is best, I think, to keep the text on the large and small maps identical where possible.

In any case, I can proceed with the XML knowing that L'Empire is much like the other bonus expanders. (Hmm, a bonus expander sounds like the subject of a lot of spam e-mail: "Men! Expand your bonus in just 21 days!") However, it is late now, so I will have to start tomorrow. (It wasn't when I started, but after days of dawdling, all my turns came up at once, including a Dawn of Ages game where I had to sweep 35 regions in just the right order so I could win (yay!))

[Raskholnikov]

LOL on your spam title! Congrats on the win! As to the legend, that's Kab's domain. If he agrees, I'm on board And thanks for starting so promptly on the coding!

[Kabanellas]

Hi, I'll take a look at it tomorrow, at the office

[ender516]

A quick note: the large map has "Corsica", while the small map has "Corse". What's it going to be?

[Raskholnikov]

Corsica.

I have a question regarding territory names. Each battle has a name and a year. Ex. Waterloo - 1813.

I would like to know whether the text menu showing territories attacked and bonuses held could show the names of the battles and years.

For the naval battles, which already have the names of that battle, we would only need to add the year.

For land battles, shown by swords, it is a bit more complicated. The Text would show: Belgium (Waterloo, 1815).

This would really add a lot to the historical interest of the game and also players would have more fun knowing which battles they would have won (or lost): "I just won my Waterloo!" or "This is my Borodino" would take an entirely new meaning here.

If this is possible, please let me know and I will provide you all the neccessary info.

Many thanks,

R