Perception of Top 10 Clans [Annually + Longevity]

[pmchugh]

Man this is hard there are just so many clans that are hard to tell apart, a lot depends on whether jp changes his ladder and how much the clan league is represented by that. If I had to guess I would pick:

1. TOFU
2. THOTA
3. TSM
4. LoW
5. IA
6. KORT
7. Empire
8. ID
9. Bpb
10. Nemesis

But here I left out legion, aod, g1 O&H and probably others i cant remember off the top of my head.

[nagerous]

You THOTA guys really haven't bothered putting any stock in the clan league have you, which jp said will affect the clan league positions. Guess you are still bitter at KORT taking one of your best player sjnap to even bother listing them in one of your pretentious lists, personally I think they are the better clan and I guessed they would beat you guys in the clan league predictions.

If you're going to talk shit, best to get your facts in order.

And to be honest, Kort would be on a lot more lists if they'd win a few more challenges. Clan league is important, but it isn't the end-all be-all.

Personally, I think all my facts are correct. What is incorrect?

[Big Whiskey]

You THOTA guys really haven't bothered putting any stock in the clan league have you, which jp said will affect the clan league positions. Guess you are still bitter at KORT taking one of your best player sjnap to even bother listing them in one of your pretentious lists, personally I think they are the better clan and I guessed they would beat you guys in the clan league predictions.

If you're going to talk shit, best to get your facts in order.

And to be honest, Kort would be on a lot more lists if they'd win a few more challenges. Clan league is important, but it isn't the end-all be-all.

Personally, I think all my facts are correct. What is incorrect?

Well,for starters when sjnap left,KORT wasn't even a clan.It's funny how some react to an opinion.

[Chariot of Fire]

Hmmm, I think I'll steer clear of this argument save to say:
- I put KORT in my Top 10
- THOTA has undeniably set the standard of what being #1 is all about
- pmchugh is a very observant fellow

[Bruceswar]

You THOTA guys really haven't bothered putting any stock in the clan league have you, which jp said will affect the clan league positions. Guess you are still bitter at KORT taking one of your best player sjnap to even bother listing them in one of your pretentious lists, personally I think they are the better clan and I guessed they would beat you guys in the clan league predictions.

If you're going to talk shit, best to get your facts in order.

And to be honest, Kort would be on a lot more lists if they'd win a few more challenges. Clan league is important, but it isn't the end-all be-all.

Personally, I think all my facts are correct. What is incorrect?

Well,for starters when sjnap left,KORT wasn't even a clan.It's funny how some react to an opinion.

Big Whiskey is right, KORT was not formed, but very close after so... Lets not forget roel either..

[Big Whiskey]

Hey Bruce,is roel still active?I haven't seen him around.

[lokisgal]

Just wondering BW who exactly are AI

[Big Whiskey]

Just wondering BW who exactly are AI

Sorry Vicky.Have a Happy Easter

[Bruceswar]

Hey Bruce,is roel still active?I haven't seen him around.

He is on leave at current, but plans to return at a later date.

[Blitzaholic]

I have no disrespect for Kort, I think they have some great players, but, like I said as of March 2010, just last week, JP's update had them ranked 18th, how could they jump 10 spots in a week? Even if they win the clan season 2 and beating some clans in 8 games here and there would not catapault them up to 10 places on the ladder to be 10th? You have to look at the big picture, it is a culmination of many factors, not just one event.

[Dako]

I have no disrespect for Kort, I think they have some great players, but, like I said as of March 2010, just last week, JP's update had them ranked 18th, how could they jump 10 spots in a week? Even if they win the clan season 2 and beating some clans in 8 games here and there would not catapault them up to 10 places on the ladder to be 10th? You have to look at the big picture, it is a culmination of many factors, not just one event.

I think jp's tanking has nothing to do with "perception" of the best 2010 clan. Because rankings are pure statistics and we are talking here about our feeling and impression about the clan. So it' kind of wrong to mix this two things together.

[safariguy5]

1.THOTA
2.TSM
3.LOW
4.TOFU
5.AI
6.Empire
7.Aod
8.G1
9.ID
10.KORT

This is fucking cracked. G1 8th? And ++the legion++ isn't even listed, tho we just worked over O&H, have beat G1, and are neck and neck with ID in the conquercup.

Yes we got run over in clan league, but everyone knows why, and is that going to be 90% of the ranking metric?

Well whatever, I guess we just gotta keep crackin till someone pays attention. (we were even forgotten from the fucking clan ranking add-on )

Pardon me Snowgun, I do think that your colorful commentary brings quite a bit to the challenge thread, but us getting "worked over" implies a beatdown. Last I looked at the challenge thread, score was 32-27. That's a win, and I don't mean to take anything away from that, but I don't think we necessarily got our ass handed to us. Loss of members or not, you can bet O&H will finish what we started!

[Blitzaholic]

Hmmm, I think I'll steer clear of this argument save to say:
- I put KORT in my Top 10
- THOTA has undeniably set the standard of what being #1 is all about
- pmchugh is a very observant fellow

thx CoF, we have tried to stay a top over last 4 years since we existed and trying to maintain that, this is extremely challenging to do, thx for recognizing that m8.

[Blitzaholic]

Hey Bruce,is roel still active?I haven't seen him around.

they used to call him superman, wonder if he still has that nickname?

[Snowgun]

Pardon me Snowgun, I do think that your colorful commentary brings quite a bit to the challenge thread, but us getting "worked over" implies a beatdown. Last I looked at the challenge thread, score was 32-27. That's a win, and I don't mean to take anything away from that, but I don't think we necessarily got our ass handed to us. Loss of members or not, you can bet O&H will finish what we started!

Well, it should end up 33-27 (hopefully ) , which for a 60 game set is a pretty definitive win. Not to mention we were two games to your one after the first half, until the split and then pretty much the same O&H team played the rest of the clan war...

However I agree that I wouldn't use the word "beatdown" or "ass handed" by any means....But I stand by "Worked".

[Qwert]

these is subjective topic,are you guys still not notice that.
In any way,thota will be in 1 place, and this is all ready prepare to be publish, but blitz only waith to all competition be finish.

[Snowgun]

these is subjective topic,are you guys still not notice that.
In any way,thota will be in 1 place, and this is all ready prepare to be publish, but blitz only waith to all competition be finish.

Master Yoda? Is that you?

[Blitzaholic]

these is subjective topic,are you guys still not notice that.
In any way,thota will be in 1 place, and this is all ready prepare to be publish, but blitz only waith to all competition be finish.

if you are referring to page 1, you'd be surprised how accurate they are. If you are referring to all guessing who the top 10 clans will be for this year, well, it is just fun to make some predictions, it will not get finalized until 2010 ends, but, nothing says we cannot have fun predicting who will be top 10. So, have some fun qwert and make your guesses.

[Blitzaholic]

[spoiler=Seedings]
Seed - Clan - Average - Std. Dev.
1. THOTA - 1.17 - 0.38
2. TSM - 2.47 - 2.04
2. TOFU - 3.78 - 1.17
3. EMPIRE - 4.67 - 1.85
4. IA - 4.78 - 1.44
5. Low - 6.44 - 2.23
6. KORT - 6.72 - 2.52
7. ID - 7.50 - 2.66
8. Nemesis - 10.28 - 3.44
9. BSS - 11.22 - 2.84
10. The Legion - 11.28 - 3.36
11. G1 - 11.61 - 3.42
12. O&H - 12.11 - 2.81
13. AoC - 13.72 - 3.61
14. Mythology - 14.61 - 3.09
15. DD - 15.17 - 3.42
15. BotFM - 15.33 - 3.58
16. L4D - 15.67 - 2.79
17. DVDLL - 15.89 - 2.73
18. EE - 17.50 - 2.04
19. LotZ - 18.72 - 2.19

Are we down to 16 clans left for the cup? I thought fat mermaids won?

[Bruceswar]

They did and are now playing TOFU. Chuuuuck just has not updated it yet.

[Chuuuuck]

Yep. Sorry guys, I only have the bracket organizer on one computer (I play on many). I need to remember to update that when I am at home.

[Chariot of Fire]

Yep. Sorry guys, I only have the bracket organizer on one computer (I play on many). I need to remember to update that when I am at home.

multi alert !!!

[Chuuuuck]

Yep. Sorry guys, I only have the bracket organizer on one computer (I play on many). I need to remember to update that when I am at home.

multi alert !!!

LoL. I play on many COMPUTERS, not many ACCOUNTS. Thanks Si.

[lord voldemort]

my perception of top clans.

1. thota...simply they have proved them selves...though they are certainly not on the high pedestal any more
2. tofu....i suspect they have number 1 by years end
3. tsm
4. empire....biased..maybe...
5. ia
6. low....back on the rise...
7. kort
8. id
9. nemisis
10. mythology
11. g1
12. legion

honorable mention...bpb....they prolly fit in here somewhere...

[Lubawski]

my perception of top clans.

1. thota...simply they have proved them selves...though they are certainly not on the high pedestal any more
2. tofu....i suspect they have number 1 by years end
3. tsm
4. empire....biased..maybe...
5. ia
6. low....back on the rise...
7. kort
8. id
9. nemisis
10. mythology
11. g1
12. legion

honorable mention...bpb....they prolly fit in here somewhere...

You have to swap out TOFU and TSM. Until someone beats the Monkis, they are number 2. I want to play IA before we are above them as well. Their only loss is to the Monkis, and they did well there. (Of course I think we would beat them).