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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:16 pm

unriggable wrote:America 1945 and America 2005 are so different it scares me. America 2005 is sort of molding into Nazi Germany (without the genocide part).[/list]


Please explain
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Postby war_bloodline on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:00 am

DIRESTRAITS wrote:
unriggable wrote:America 1945 and America 2005 are so different it scares me. America 2005 is sort of molding into Nazi Germany (without the genocide part).[/list]


Please explain


I don't see where unriggable is going with this.
If you are going to call America a Nazi Nation then head over to flame it if you want to, but not here this is about history.
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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:01 am

war_bloodline wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:
unriggable wrote:America 1945 and America 2005 are so different it scares me. America 2005 is sort of molding into Nazi Germany (without the genocide part).[/list]


Please explain


I don't see where unriggable is going with this.
If you are going to call America a Nazi Nation then head over to flame it if you want to, but not here this is about history.

I want to see why he thinks America is becoming Nazi
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Postby war_bloodline on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:03 am

kcoenich wrote:war_bloodline wrote:
Germany attackes Russia and pushes all the way to Moscow.


The fatal mistake Hitler commited...


Very true, as one general said in the pull back of Napolions forces (I know I spelled that wrong) "The best general in Russia is the winter", I belive that is how it was said.
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Postby war_bloodline on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:16 am

DIRESTRAITS wrote:
war_bloodline wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:
unriggable wrote:America 1945 and America 2005 are so different it scares me. America 2005 is sort of molding into Nazi Germany (without the genocide part).[/list]


Please explain


I don't see where unriggable is going with this.
If you are going to call America a Nazi Nation then head over to flame it if you want to, but not here this is about history.

I want to see why he thinks America is becoming Nazi


He is going to have to match some very big points that don't match at all.
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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:19 am

war_bloodline wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:
war_bloodline wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:
unriggable wrote:America 1945 and America 2005 are so different it scares me. America 2005 is sort of molding into Nazi Germany (without the genocide part).[/list]


Please explain


I don't see where unriggable is going with this.
If you are going to call America a Nazi Nation then head over to flame it if you want to, but not here this is about history.

I want to see why he thinks America is becoming Nazi


He is going to have to match some very big points that don't match at all.

I know. I want to see him try and then pick his arguments apart
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Postby war_bloodline on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:24 am

DIRESTRAITS wrote:
war_bloodline wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:
war_bloodline wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:
unriggable wrote:America 1945 and America 2005 are so different it scares me. America 2005 is sort of molding into Nazi Germany (without the genocide part).[/list]


Please explain


I don't see where unriggable is going with this.
If you are going to call America a Nazi Nation then head over to flame it if you want to, but not here this is about history.

I want to see why he thinks America is becoming Nazi


He is going to have to match some very big points that don't match at all.

I know. I want to see him try and then pick his arguments apart



Yeah, this will be fun.
The Reichstag to the United States of America.
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Postby lord twiggy1 on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:28 am

war_bloodline wrote:
kcoenich wrote:war_bloodline wrote:
Germany attackes Russia and pushes all the way to Moscow.


The fatal mistake Hitler commited...


Very true, as one general said in the pull back of Napolions forces (I know I spelled that wrong) "The best general in Russia is the winter", I belive that is how it was said.


very true. those winters are the coldest in the world evept for maybe artica and antartica. the russians had adapted to it. they had exelent snipers (like Vasili Zaitzev from Enemy at the Gates which is based on a real story about a russian boy who enlisted in the russian ifantry due to the atack of Stalingrad. he later is transfered to the sniper divisionwhere his friend(cant remember his name) who is a sort of russian propagandaist tells every day of how many Nazi officers Vasili killed that day. Eventually the Nazis smart up and send their best sharpshooter, "The Fox" I think, to kill him. thats about the first 45 minutes of it. The rest of the three hours its just Vasilli and the Fox trying to kill eachothe.) amd they knew the terrain better than the germans. thats one of the disadvantages of invadeing the country.

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Postby war_bloodline on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:31 am

lord twiggy1 wrote:
war_bloodline wrote:
kcoenich wrote:war_bloodline wrote:
Germany attackes Russia and pushes all the way to Moscow.


The fatal mistake Hitler commited...


Very true, as one general said in the pull back of Napolions forces (I know I spelled that wrong) "The best general in Russia is the winter", I belive that is how it was said.


very true. those winters are the coldest in the world evept for maybe artica and antartica. the russians had adapted to it. they had exelent snipers (like Vasili Zaitzev from Enemy at the Gates which is based on a real story about a russian boy who enlisted in the russian ifantry due to the atack of Stalingrad. he later is transfered to the sniper divisionwhere his friend(cant remember his name) who is a sort of russian propagandaist tells every day of how many Nazi officers Vasili killed that day. Eventually the Nazis smart up and send their best sharpshooter, "The Fox" I think, to kill him. thats about the first 45 minutes of it. The rest of the three hours its just Vasilli and the Fox trying to kill eachothe.) amd they knew the terrain better than the germans. thats one of the disadvantages of invadeing the country.

Has anyone here seen Enemy at the Gates


Yes I have, it is a very good movie.
WW2 Quiz-Does anyone know how many died in the Russian front alone?
(Counting only Russians)!!!!!!
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Postby lord twiggy1 on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:43 am

no i only really study the france belgium area. i think its called the ETO(eastern theater of opperations) but how many...Oh and...FOR THA MOTHALAND
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Postby war_bloodline on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:46 am

In a guess of numbers a years of reading books in laugages that I have problems with the est. number is *drum roll* 8.5 million people, in total of both German and Russian (if you wanted to know) was about 15+ million people, just in the russian front.
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Postby lord twiggy1 on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:49 am

wow thats alot


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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:50 am

Easy, Stalingrad
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Postby war_bloodline on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:51 am

Oh yeah big easy one.
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Postby war_bloodline on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:52 am

Here is a little thing to think about.

If you tryed to pull back you were shot by you own leader.
A lot of messages never made it to there commanders because they shot the person caring the letter, by there own commanders that they were trying to give the letter too, the commander guessed that they were leaving the front.
A big NO NO.
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Postby war_bloodline on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:55 am

Number 3.
What were the two German army units that attcked Stalingrad?
This one may be hard, but there were two.
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Postby lord twiggy1 on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:56 am

DIRESTRAITS wrote:Easy, Stalingrad
actually, surprisingly, thats wrong. its a close second though. i was The Battle of the Bulge. the total casualties were 174,821 dead or wounded on both sides. 89,987 for the allies and 84,834 for the Germans. and whats weird is that the germans had less casualties but still lost.
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Postby war_bloodline on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:57 am

lord twiggy1 wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:Easy, Stalingrad
actually, surprisingly, thats wrong. its a close second though. i was The Battle of the Bulge. the total casualties were 174,821 dead or wounded on both sides. 89,987 for the allies and 84,834 for the Germans. and whats weird is that the germans had less casualties but still lost.


Well I will look up on that, but I guess you can say you learn something new everyday.

whats weird is that the germans had less casualties but still lost.


The Germans were low on oil, that was the reason for the attack.
There goal was to reach Antwerp.
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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:58 am

lord twiggy1 wrote:
DIRESTRAITS wrote:Easy, Stalingrad
actually, surprisingly, thats wrong. its a close second though. i was The Battle of the Bulge. the total casualties were 174,821 dead or wounded on both sides. 89,987 for the allies and 84,834 for the Germans. and whats weird is that the germans had less casualties but still lost.


WOW! Never would have guessed it
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Postby lord twiggy1 on Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:59 am

actually i just read wrong it was the most casualties in the weastern front. but ya on the eastern front, and the entire war it was stalingrad
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Postby war_bloodline on Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:00 am

Ahhh.

Does anyone have a guess for number 3?
before I get off.
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Postby DIRESTRAITS on Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:01 am

lord twiggy1 wrote:actually i just read wrong it was the most casualties in the weastern front. but ya on the eastern front, and the entire war it was stalingrad

That makes more sense
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Postby lord twiggy1 on Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:02 am

war_bloodline wrote:Number 3.
What were the two German army units that attcked Stalingrad?
This one may be hard, but there were two.


i give up I couldent find it on wikipedia
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Postby war_bloodline on Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:03 am

lord twiggy1 wrote:
war_bloodline wrote:Number 3.
What were the two German army units that attcked Stalingrad?
This one may be hard, but there were two.


i give up I couldent find it on wikipedia


The Sixth Army
and the
Fourth Panzer Army.

The sixth army lost more then 3/4 of it's forces.
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Postby lord twiggy1 on Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:06 am

oh i read russian not german. i must be getting tired

Number 4

What country had the first parachute division?
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