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World War 3-reality or not?

 
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Postby Guiscard on Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:20 pm

cowshrptrn wrote:i doubt there will be any World War 3.

Wars like that are for territorial and power gains. Theres no need to conquer new territory in such a globalized world. To get natural resources (maybe oil, but if it becomes unstable enough people will start back pedaling and start looking into alternatives a lot more seriously) we can trade services, which there is rarely a shortage of and you don't need land for it.

as far as power's concerned, the MAD theory (Mutually Assured Destruction) means that there won't be anything worth controlling. It says that if we get into a large scale war, ONE of the countries will fire a nuke (probably the losing country when its close to being overtaken) which will prompt a retaliatory strike by the others. If the nuclear war doesn't kill us all, Nuclear winter will. If you're going to try and take power, you probably already know about this and won't bother going about it though a world war.


Most sensible and intellegant post yet. Another global war in the way people are describing it here is generally seen as ridiculous by those who study international relationships and politics.
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Postby edmundomcpot on Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:32 pm

you forget that N.korea has closed borders and wont accept anything from other countries and i doubt communist china will accept much off capitalists. And both countries would want to prove their military might to the world
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Postby Guiscard on Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:01 pm

China are pretty much the only power holding N. Korea in check and have been for a while. They're just as much under Chinese hegemony as most of the other small asian states. Only difference is they're not accepting western influence to such a highd degree.

So far, the US has supported (in as far as not interfering) China as it keeps the other Asian countries in check whilst posing no major threat to the outside world. Problem is they've become too economivally intertwined. Any WW3 will be waged on an economic not military level.
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Postby edmundomcpot on Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:48 pm

The old balance of terror comes into play...sort of


If america stop supporting china the east erupts

If china stop with america, china economy falls and the east erupts

am i right or have i just gone off on one again
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Postby bedplay on Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:02 pm

Everyone will die a horrible death, the end
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Postby areon on Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:02 pm

You're an idiot and should read about China's non-reliance on foreign nations as far as resources go. They aren't depending on the US to support their nation. Where do you get these ideas, from the stupid saying that everything in the US is made in China? I would say that none of the nations with nuclear bombs depend on other nations to the point where if they lost trade they would collapse.
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Postby edmundomcpot on Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:06 pm

i was just saying that without america chinas products would only mainly be going to asia/ europe

In asia the countrys are mainly poor. Europe would buy americas products over chinas.. bang China isnt making money. Economy stops growing
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Postby al12 on Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:06 pm

Rev.13
[16] Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead,
[17] so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.

I thinkt that WW3 will start close to when everyone gets a chip in their rist or their forehead and that all the countries will be against Israel, and I think it's going to happen werry soon.
I don't now how true it is but I saw on fahrenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore that Saudi Arabia and maybe some other arabic countries have allot of money in the USA and if they would take that out of the banks the USA would go bankrubed, so what if the middle east countries( exept for Israel) want to destroi Israel and now can use the USA to help? And seeing that the USA is a superpower and the middle eastern countries have control over the USA the EU and it's allies could back uop the USA and the iddle east against Israel.
Also about Isael attacking Iran, I'm sure they are going to do it, there was an article a few weeks ago about that and I remember there was said that Israel wanted to do this attack because Iran could make their own atom bomb in about two years. I think that is israel lanches this attack it could be the trigger to the war.
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Postby Stopper on Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:11 pm

Reading through some of the ker-ray-zee scenarios in this thread, it occurs to me that it might be an idea to start one of those "story" threads - you know, where each poster adds four words at a time - but with a WWIII theme.

The end result would probably have about as much chance of happening as anything else on here!
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Postby Kokunai on Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:26 pm

Alright I seen someone mentioned me with the off-topic bat earlier... I am sorry for my absence but, I was trying to keep it off the prophetic topic and leave it at the geopolitical level but inevitably it would have ended up at this point anyway which explains my absence.
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Postby shaddowfire on Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:03 pm

Don't know if anyone has quoted Einstein, but this applies directly.

"I don't know with what weapons WW3 will be fought, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones."

Get the drift?
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Postby Bavarian Raven on Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:13 pm

to find the beginning of my book, go to deviant art and type in by:WildernessMan...then search for 'Law of Survival'...i've only posted the 1st two capters...it will deal with the war on the western pacific...
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Postby Knight of Orient on Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:22 pm

the thing mankind is best at is finding ways to torture and/or kill one another
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Postby Guiscard on Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:33 pm

areon wrote:You're an idiot and should read about China's non-reliance on foreign nations as far as resources go. They aren't depending on the US to support their nation. Where do you get these ideas, from the stupid saying that everything in the US is made in China? I would say that none of the nations with nuclear bombs depend on other nations to the point where if they lost trade they would collapse.


The UK? North Sea Oil is about to run out, then we got nothing! Back down the mines, lads, forget what Thatcher said!
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Postby Bertros Bertros on Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:37 pm

Guiscard wrote:
areon wrote:You're an idiot and should read about China's non-reliance on foreign nations as far as resources go. They aren't depending on the US to support their nation. Where do you get these ideas, from the stupid saying that everything in the US is made in China? I would say that none of the nations with nuclear bombs depend on other nations to the point where if they lost trade they would collapse.


The UK? North Sea Oil is about to run out, then we got nothing! Back down the mines, lads, forget what Thatcher said!


You jest I assume but its not that far from the truth... except now we're talking about burning it underground instead of scraping it out wiht our fingernails ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5168210.stm
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Postby Knight of Orient on Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:39 pm

"and the world... will be a better place, and the world...will be a better place, for you........and me..........bla bla.....bla BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!



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Postby vtmarik on Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:56 pm

al12 wrote:Rev.13
[16] Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead,
[17] so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.

I thinkt that WW3 will start close to when everyone gets a chip in their rist or their forehead and that all the countries will be against Israel, and I think it's going to happen werry soon.
I don't now how true it is but I saw on fahrenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore that Saudi Arabia and maybe some other arabic countries have allot of money in the USA and if they would take that out of the banks the USA would go bankrubed, so what if the middle east countries( exept for Israel) want to destroi Israel and now can use the USA to help? And seeing that the USA is a superpower and the middle eastern countries have control over the USA the EU and it's allies could back uop the USA and the iddle east against Israel.
Also about Isael attacking Iran, I'm sure they are going to do it, there was an article a few weeks ago about that and I remember there was said that Israel wanted to do this attack because Iran could make their own atom bomb in about two years. I think that is israel lanches this attack it could be the trigger to the war.


Why does WWIII automagically become Armageddon? Isn't it possible that the mark of the beast is a metaphor and not some dire prediction about mandatory chip implants and such?
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Postby 2dimes on Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:11 pm

vtmarik wrote:Why does WWIII automagically become Armageddon?
I would suspect because an interpretation of parts of the bible is the elimination of all followers of Jesus just before he comes back.

Due to the fact they are spread all over the world all most as much as "christians" and their churches. It would seem possible (to some I suppose probable) that there will be a world war while they are being eliminated.

Therefore you will allways have people thinking the next world war is armageddon.

vtmarik wrote:Isn't it possible that the mark of the beast is a metaphor and not some dire prediction about mandatory chip implants and such
It doesn't seem like much of a metaphor though it's not precisely clear what it is.

What was written is it's a human number, you will need it to buy and sell and it is either "six hundred and sixty-six" or posibly 616.
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Postby Knight of Orient on Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:54 pm

either way, itll suck
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is it just me?

Postby pistol on Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:17 pm

is it just me or will world war four be fought with sticks and stones if there is one?
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Postby 2dimes on Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:42 pm

You and Albert for sure.
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Postby Knight of Orient on Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:51 pm

hey, anything can happen
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Postby unriggable on Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:56 pm

I hope it happens before we make the space elevator.
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Postby neutralbias on Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:02 pm

Yeah but this war will be versus oil companies, banks and bill gates
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Postby unriggable on Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:32 pm

Eh bill gates isnt doing shit - and syriana is a fictional story. Itll be between the US and everybody else. Maybe NK will go batshit insane in the process and start bombng the crap out of russia or something, who knows?
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