star wars mafia game over rebels win, with survivers help

by **Koesen** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:28 pm

Metsfan and LSU, if you could unvote too, I'd appreciate it. And if you really trust me, vote with me. I will explain before the day is through.

by **duday53** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:44 pm

I don't understand what you are doing Koesen. You need to explain as soon as possible. I don't know why you are voting Wolverine Mutant. If you know who everyone is then there would be no reason to vote for him when you KNOW that he is a stormtrooper..

Also I would like to mention, since most people in this game seem to be survivors. It is likely that at the start of the game it was a small group of imperial vs. a small group of rebellion. Citizens could basically choose a side. Perhaps Koesen is Luke trying to convince all the citizens to follow him? I don't know :\ Also, he apparently knows everyones role? So he is obviously not some sort of regular cop because there have only been 5 Nights. So either he is lying or his role is extremely powerful.

by **LSU Tiger Josh** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:46 pm

I'm with duday on this one. I'll leave my current vote until further explanation and also want to hear claims if we're going that route.

by **Koesen** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:05 pm

It would be best if I had more time, but the deadline and real life make that impossible, so I'll tell you all now and hope for the best. Get ready for the scum play of the century :mrgreen:

Captainwalrus, this is how you will win the most memorable victory of your mafia career.

You are Darth Vader. You can be recruited, not by Leia, who is dead and couldn't recruit you anyway, but by Luke Skywalker. Last night, you were invited and turned them down, thinking the Empire offered you a better shot. You underestimated the strength of the rebels, though. They are more numerous than you think. Had you joined them last night, your victory would already be in the bag.

I am a rebel. Which one doesn't matter

Listen to me and do the math for yourself and see how you and I will win this game.

The key factor in my plan is that with you, the imperial survivors and the rebels together, we control the lynch. The Empire doesn't have the numbers anymore to stop us.

Today, we lynch Wolverine. Tonight, you kill [b]Safariguy[/b], who is Emperor Palpatine. It must be him, because he is the only imperial who can't receive any kind of night protection.

Also tonight, you will be approached by the rebels again, and this time you will agree to join them. At that point, the rebels, you included, outnumber the empire and it doesn't matter anymore who is killed by the stormtroopers. Even if the stormtroopers kill you tonight, you still win. But they won't kill you, cause they have to kill me (unless they want to lose even faster, which is okay with me).

If Palpatine's death does not result in an instant rebel victory, tomorrow the remaining rebels (with you)and imperial survivors lynch Duday. That eliminates the Empire's nightkilling power.

Then, there's only LSU left, who is an Imperial cop. Depending on who lives and who dies, he can be lynched or nightkilled next. Again, the Empire doesn't have the numbers or the roles to prevent this from happening.

That's it: all Imps dead, all rebels and surviving imperial citizens win.

If you and the imperial citizens play along, we all win and nothing can stop us. We might as well go to Endgame now.

The epic beauty of this scenario is that this is, as far as I know, the first time ever that a confirmed townie and a confirmed mafia member openly negotiate a mutually beneficial course of action in broad daylight, and there's nobody who can stop us. You, as a townie, will commit two acts of brutal treason and then you will be rewarded with a scum recruitment and victory. Your reputation will be cemented forever.

Every single player in the game sees it coming and even if they have a personal interest in stopping you, they are powerless.

On a happy side note, this outcome will be faithful to the movies, where Darth Vader rejoins the rebels in the final moments and drags their victory from the jaws of hell.

Come back to the Light Side, Lord Vader. We have Wookies.

by **gregwolf121** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:41 pm

vote count
/ (1) captainwalrus
no lynch (3) wolverine mutant, LSU, metsfanmax
wolverine mutant (1) Koesen

with 10 alive it will take 6 to lynch

deadline is saturday, roughly 24 hours until this day ends

by **captainwalrus** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:43 pm

unvote vote Wolverine Mutant
Can we have a longer deadline?

by **safariguy5** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:04 pm

Well, since I'm emperor Palpatine, I'll reveal my ability. I'm a vote stealer. I get to steal two people's votes per night. I stole Wolverine Mutant and cubfanpgh's votes last night. Since cub died, I only have Wolverine Mutant's vote. And since Koesen claimed scum, then I'm voting him.

vote Koesen

by **strike wolf** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:22 pm

Well I may be hated for this but if Darth Vader is siding with koesen than so will I.

vote wolverine

by **safariguy5** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:45 pm

Are you kidding me? Koesen is only saying what he is saying because the imperial citizens have a survivor win condition. First of all, I have no idea why CW would side with the rebels here. Empire can win this relatively easily if you don't turn Vader. Granted, it seems CW is going to win no matter what, but as Imperial aligned citizens, why would you wanna side with the rebels? As

by **safariguy5** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:46 pm

safariguy5 wrote:Are you kidding me? Koesen is only saying what he is saying because the imperial citizens have a survivor win condition. First of all, I have no idea why CW would side with the rebels here. Empire can win this relatively easily if you don't turn Vader. Granted, it seems CW is going to win no matter what, but as Imperial aligned citizens, why would you wanna side with the rebels? As long as town win, you will win with full glory instead of the survivor's way out.

EBWOP

by / on Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:58 pm

In this situation I must side with scum, because town is mean and has already tried to kill me several times today today.vote wolverine

by **strike wolf** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:14 pm

First off I am just going with what I feel is a better strategy for my role and the rebels with Darth Vader have the upper hand in this conflict. Secondly I feel like these last few posts you, safari, have been grasping at straws meaning that you are in more trouble than you care to admit.

On a side note, I really have to respect Koesen for this. It takes a lot of guts to come out and openly admit to being a mafia member.

by **Koesen** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:43 pm

Citizens and Rebels, follow Lord Vader and myself and victory will be yours. If I die tonight, lynch and nightkill according to my instructions in my explanation to Captainwalrus.

Palpatine's vote stealing story is bogus. Desperate, amusing bogus

Mod, I will not have a lot of time online during the March break. If Day 7 could last until the beginning of the week after, I'd appreciate it.

Captainwalrus: awesome job! You won't regret it.

Emperor Safari, Imperial cop LSU and Stormtroopers Duday and Wolverine: sorry. Not :twisted:

by **gregwolf121** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:50 pm

vote count
no lynch (2) LSU, metsfanmax
wolverine mutant (4) Koesen, captain walrus, strike wolf, /
koesen (2) wolverine mutant, safari
with 10 alive it will take 6 to lynch
wolverine is at L-2, again
deadline is saturday, around 21 hours left until night

by **Koesen** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:10 pm

Well, look at that. Seems he's a vote stealer after all. But it makes no difference, cause he stole a Stormtrooper's vote who would have voted with him anyway. =D>

The most votes he can get are these two plus LSU and Duday, which is nowhere near enough for a lynch. Even if Wolverine is allowed to vote himself as well in spite of having his vote stolen, he still doesn't have enough.

UTAlan and Metsfan, join our bandwagon to victory.

Tonight, Vader kills Palpatine and it's all over!

by **Metsfanmax** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:54 pm

Koesen, your play is irrelevant, since CW already agreed to join the rebellion last night, so you're not saying anything that wouldn't have happened anyway.

Unvote
Vote Wolverine

by **UTAlan** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:01 pm

So, basically whether Empire or Rebels win is up to me. If I vote Wolverine, Koesen's plan is put in place. If I vote Koesen (along with LSU and duday), and either / or Metsfanmax change their vote to him, he is lynched.

If Koesen is correct about everybody's role (safari, LSU, duday, Wolverine, captainwalrus are all Empire; /, metsfanmax, UTAlan are all survivors [I can verify at least one of those :roll:

], Koesen is scum), that leaves only strike wolf without any specified alignment. That tells me he is very likely a rebel as well.

Captainwalrus, consider an alternate plan which would end the game without the need for another day. We lynch Koesen and you and/or the storm troopers night kill strike wolf. Game, set, match for the Empire.

Personally, I just have to survive. I don't care which side wins, as long as I'm on that side. It will be a difficult victory for either side if the survivors and Vader don't work together. I'm going to withold voting for a few more hours to see if this plan gets any steam.

(I hope I don't get NK'd because of this.) :oops:

metsfanmax wrote:since CW already agreed to join the rebellion last night

I believe he said he was recruited, but turned down the offer.

by **Metsfanmax** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:24 pm

UTAlan wrote:
metsfanmax wrote:since CW already agreed to join the rebellion last night

I believe he said he was recruited, but turned down the offer.

Yes, but he lied.

by **UTAlan** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:26 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
UTAlan wrote:
metsfanmax wrote:since CW already agreed to join the rebellion last night

I believe he said he was recruited, but turned down the offer.

Yes, but he lied.

If I can get verification of this, that makes my decision easy.

by **Metsfanmax** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:31 pm

UTAlan wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
UTAlan wrote:
metsfanmax wrote:since CW already agreed to join the rebellion last night

I believe he said he was recruited, but turned down the offer.

Yes, but he lied.

If I can get verification of this, that makes my decision easy.

I'm Luke Skywalker, I recruited him last night. Rebel alliance has Darth Vader now, and so the game is pretty much over. If you're a survivor, you should just vote Wolverine.

by **UTAlan** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:32 pm

Good enough for me.

Vote Wolverine

by **strike wolf** on Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:41 pm

I believe that's a lynch.

by **duday53** on Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:43 am

Well earlier I thought it would be best not to say that the storm troopers are
actually survivors as well.. So really. Basically everyone can win here. Except palpatine.

by **duday53** on Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:54 am

Oh never mind. Just checked my role pm. I win when the rebellion is over. :/

Shit.

by **gregwolf121** on Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:38 am

vote count
no lynch (12) LSU
wolverine mutant (6) Koesen, captain walrus, strike wolf, /, metsfanmax, UTA
koesen (2) wolverine mutant, safari
with 10 alive it will take 6 to lynch
wolverine has been lynched
deadline doesn't matter anymore

death scene to follow

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