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Auto Attack -- Auto Suicide

Postby IronE.GLE on Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:59 pm

Ok, I'm going to DL the script that has confirm auto-attack because this stupid button has killed me in two games now. In games without cards it truly is suicide to use auto attack, even when you have your opponent outnumbered 15 to 3. One accidental press of the button and you are now outnumbered 3 to 2 and on the verge of being wiped off the map.

Thank you Auto-Suicide for ruining my day.
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Postby Scorba on Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:00 pm

:-({|=
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Postby neoni on Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:24 pm

i always use it, i've no patience for doing it normally, and my score really isn't that bad.
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Postby Nous-irons on Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:26 pm

Well, I wish had the oppurtunity to turn it off during RT, but on the other hand, it comes in handy during an ambush - an opponent invades your territory and you don't deploy until he hits the right territory, and boom, you crush the invasion and have a free reign for a counterattack.

Well, that only happens in 2.0, but anyway.
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Postby aphockey23 on Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:24 pm

when you coming back to the emb?
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Postby gerry22 on Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:11 pm

Scorba wrote::-({|=


you won't get no sympathy here.
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Postby IronE.GLE on Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:48 pm

gerry22 wrote:
Scorba wrote::-({|=


you won't get no sympathy here.


Not looking for sympathy, just venting. It's frustrating enough to have to fight through a bad draw without doing something as idiotic as hitting auto-attack.
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Postby Neutrino on Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:51 pm

What does everyone have against Auto-Attack? Auto-Attack gives just the same quality dice as the normal Attack button does, and I cant count the number of times I have won a game because I managed to finish a 20+ fight before the enemy could deploy!
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Postby IronE.GLE on Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:51 pm

aphockey23 wrote:when you coming back to the emb?


Suspension is over on Wednesday but not sure if I want to go back anyway. The WU just isn't what it used to be and now we have Giants and Cowboys fans complaining to the mods for masking. Completely ridiculous that they are getting people suspended.
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Postby aphockey23 on Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:16 am

IronE.GLE wrote:
aphockey23 wrote:when you coming back to the emb?


Suspension is over on Wednesday but not sure if I want to go back anyway. The WU just isn't what it used to be and now we have Giants and Cowboys fans complaining to the mods for masking. Completely ridiculous that they are getting people suspended.

you know you'll be back
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Postby Kyle Trite on Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:35 am

Yea, idk y but i always get worse rolls when I use auto-attack, so I try to avoid it completely.
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Postby ZawBanjito on Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:47 am

It is absolutely true that auto-attack is bloody cursed! Even if I have to click a BILLION times I won't use that DEMON BUTTON.

Listen, the dice are based on "random" numbers drawn from random.org. Read their FAQ! Random.org "randomizes" by measuring supposedly-random weather patterns. Ha! Weather isn't RANDOM! Some days it's hot, some days it's cold. IF IT'S HOT IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE COLD AGAIN SOMETIME. Are you following me? BUT WHEN IT'S HOT, IT'S NOT USUALLY COLD THE NEXT SECOND! Okay? Okay, yeah? So dice move in clumps. Clumps of good, clumps of bad. If you're manually tapping the button, you can STOP at a bad clump and wait until a good clump hits. With the auto-attack, YOU GET THE WHOLE BAD CLUMP IN ONE CLUMP.

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Postby socralynnek on Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:22 am

Hehe, you are funny ZawBanjito.
Then we should do attacking in winter and defending in summer? Or vice versa? ;-)

BTW, the attacker and defender rolls come from the same source so they both are equally affected by streakiness.

Random is sometimes streaky, that is part of random. I also had the occasional good or bad streak when I was not using autoattack.
Maybe one can tell the dice analyzer to make some further tests for example, whether the numbers are too streaky or not.

But by now I have seen no signs that autoattack is worse than normal attack, and my dice analyzer tells me, that the numbers are evenly spread by now (ok, I know it doesn't test streakiness)
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Postby Captain Crash on Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:31 am

ZawBanjito wrote:Listen, the dice are based on "random" numbers drawn from random.org. Read their FAQ! Random.org "randomizes" by measuring supposedly-random weather patterns.


Sorry Zaw, but from http://www.random.org's website:
Random.org wrote:The way the random.org random number generator works is quite simple. A radio is tuned into a frequency where nobody is broadcasting. The atmospheric noise picked up by the receiver is fed into a Sun SPARC workstation through the microphone port where it is sampled by a program as an eight bit mono signal at a frequency of 8KHz.


Which has nothing to do with weather, but rather the static that you hear when you tune a radio into a station with nothing being deliberately broadcast: i.e. 'carrier wave only'

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Postby Kahless on Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:42 am

Why don't we just get some old bloke to roll dice and post the results :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby IronE.GLE on Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:00 am

ZawBanjito wrote:It is absolutely true that auto-attack is bloody cursed! Even if I have to click a BILLION times I won't use that DEMON BUTTON.

Listen, the dice are based on "random" numbers drawn from random.org. Read their FAQ! Random.org "randomizes" by measuring supposedly-random weather patterns. Ha! Weather isn't RANDOM! Some days it's hot, some days it's cold. IF IT'S HOT IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE COLD AGAIN SOMETIME. Are you following me? BUT WHEN IT'S HOT, IT'S NOT USUALLY COLD THE NEXT SECOND! Okay? Okay, yeah? So dice move in clumps. Clumps of good, clumps of bad. If you're manually tapping the button, you can STOP at a bad clump and wait until a good clump hits. With the auto-attack, YOU GET THE WHOLE BAD CLUMP IN ONE CLUMP.

These are the secret teachings. TELL NO ONE apart from everyone in this public forum. Shhhhhhh.


:lol: You did happen to mention the main problem with auto-attack. If things go sour, you are just toast because auto doesn't know when to say when.... kinda like me at an 80's party.
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Postby heavycola on Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:49 am

Kahless wrote:Why don't we just get some old bloke to roll dice and post the results :lol: :lol: :lol:


How the hell did you find out?

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Postby Dr. Jim on Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:04 pm

But Radio static isn't random either... Granted it's a difficult to predict and very complex pattern, it's a pattern none-the-less.
Of course if we want to get nitpicky, nothing in this entire universe is random, so it's a mute point.
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