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Re: CC's 20 CONQUERORs

Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:48 am

Kraphtone, not sure if you drunk or not or if this is even you, but, the posts above congratz kog for conqueror. Maybe you misread, and he may be a good singles player, but, he got conqueror by mostly city mogul and freestyle speed, he has played over 600 games on that map, and his last 400 games or so, that is what he has done, 1 vs 1 mostly freestyle speed, all on city mogul. Most players know the map is flawed and many argued for it to be changed. Sure, if you got clickies, etc. it is quite easy to do, some of us do not enjoy take advantage of the system like that. Just giving you some perspective, anyways, once again, congratz kog.


and as far as best sequential single 6 players and more out their, in my opinion it is comic boy, rl orange, scott-land, joecoolfrog, maniacmath17, poo-maker, mhennigan, sjnap to name just a few, and many others. not sure if he has played them or not, but, as far as freestyle singles 6 to 8 players, probably kog is right up there with scott-land as one of the best, no doubt kog is super in freestyle. There is a big difference though between one of the greatest in the game and one of the fastest in the game, but, the bottom line is: he is conqueror, and that is an incredible achievement, only 20 has ever done that in about the half million or so that has come thru here. Extremely difficult to do, only 10 or so ever done it before the speed invention.
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUERORs

Postby KraphtOne on Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:06 am

i dunno blitzy i'm drunk again and it looks pretty good... :D


i guess my point was this...

i havent been here for that long, when i joined there was a dieing risk site that i frequently played on http://www.igl.net/grisk which came about when the other site we played on http://www.igl.net/risk stopped hosting the game...

a buddy of mine smasher_123 finally convinced me to come over here and play...

when i came here i only played 1 vs 1 sequential on the classic map, thinking it would have the same skill level involved as it did on the other site...

if you own a hasbro risk cd you know that there are computer players involved ( at the other site we called them "bots")

when you set up a 1 vs 1 game there, you also have "bots" that play with you...

therefore you would have to kill the other player while also not allowing a "bot" to win...

this is where the skill came in, because if a "bot" won, then it was a draw and no win was recorded...

so when i came here i found out after a few games that the way this format is setup, whomever goes first or has one good round of dice early in a one vs one game, will win... you don't have to worry about the "bots" winning the game, and can basically just attack the other person at will... in Game 1439113 i even made a slight comment to him as to how 1vs1 here seemed to be a wash... sure, a good player could win 60 to 70 percent, but winning 60 to 70 percent of your games on the old site would be something i considered embarrassing...

i soon learned that there was a freestyle system of play...

at first this was kinda upsetting because i did not have clickable maps and had a slow connection..

but later when this was remedied i found that i could compete with anyone, and it would come down to strategy... with the occasional 20% of games having dice or a weird drop dictate the game...

i truly believe (as do most people with a good connection, clickies, and a brain) that this is the best way to play this game... you eliminate getting hurt by having a turn order...

you still on occasion will get screwed by a bad drop though...

which is where neutral starting point maps come in, such as mogul, fuedal, oasis, etc...

on oasis a good first round attacking an oasis vs a bad first round attacking an oasis will guarantee a victory for the luckier guy...

on feudal you lesson this chance, only extremely good dice by the worse player will result in a victory...

on mogul you can almost eliminate dice from the equation... it comes down to attacking the right territory at the right point in the game... the people arguing that it is flawed are basically arguing that there isn't enough luck involved... stick KOG and herpes in 10 mogul games... same guy will win 8 or 9 out of 10 of em... (hmmm sounds interesting)

which is why the good freestyle players lean toward this map when shooting for a high rank...

do you think it is by luck that certain players almost never lose on this map?

There are only a few things that I (among others) have a problem with...

1. People systematically joining games with low ranked players in order to pad stats
2. People foeing those that present competition to them
3. People only hosting private games, therefore preventing good players from joining...
4. People playing nothing but team games with the same players against randomly partnered teams and then insinuating that they are the better players on this site...

and my point was that KOG made it to conquerer by doing none of these things...

you mentioned Rl orange and comic and poo and scotty, and i agree... i have much respect for these players... they make their bones playing singles games and taking on all challengers (well, sorta, you gotta be high ranked... but who wants to play noobs in an 8 man esc. game besides mhennigan and tai-robert :o :o :o )

i don't think that you or the thota boys are bad players blitzy, it just gets a litle tiresome reading the threads of all your achievements that really don't have much merit to the everyday singles players...

just take one day and set up nothing but 1 vs 1 speed games, and don't foe anyone that beats you, and try to keep your rank (you can even play mogul if you want)...

and then maybe you'll be able to have the appreciation that the guys in the trenches have...

**** and blitzy this isn't an attack against you or anything bud, i'm sure there are plenty that equate playing nothing but mogul as cheap... all i'm trying to show is that it is logically the best chance at putting one player against another player without much luck involoved...

RL is a great 8 player sequential player, but he also has the luxary of being able to win 2 out of 8 games and still see a point increase... 1vs1 you're looking at 95% to attain conquerer...
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUERORs

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:41 am

A quick note... Mhennigan would rather play the best there is than noobs, but those games are rarely up and few and far between. So he takes whatever he can get.
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUERORs

Postby KraphtOne on Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:53 am

Bruceswar wrote:A quick note... Mhennigan would rather play the best there is than noobs, but those games are rarely up and few and far between. So he takes whatever he can get.


that was more of an "it's easier to play freestyle 8 man games against noobs than against good players" thing... sequential you want all high ranks because you don't want to get noobed... freestyle you want people to noob...

make sense? i've played tai and henni they got the I-phone thing goin i'm sure they aren't worried about playing anyone in an 8 man casual freestyler
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUERORs

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:25 am

KraphtOne wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:A quick note... Mhennigan would rather play the best there is than noobs, but those games are rarely up and few and far between. So he takes whatever he can get.


that was more of an "it's easier to play freestyle 8 man games against noobs than against good players" thing... sequential you want all high ranks because you don't want to get noobed... freestyle you want people to noob...

make sense? i've played tai and henni they got the I-phone thing goin i'm sure they aren't worried about playing anyone in an 8 man casual freestyler



Yeah I agree... though thai has been known to foe from time to time.. anyhow back on topic...

Who do you think is the best conquer? or can that really be said?
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:53 pm

Bruceswar wrote:Who do you think is the best conquer? or can that really be said?


depends on what you prefer, but, if I had to guess I would say comic, scotty or snapo.

however , there are players that never reached conqueror , but, almost did, like rl-orange, seulessliathan, david_wain, chariot of fire and big whiskey who are awesome players, and if you lined them all up on random maps and random settings, playing every game style and every facet, big whiskey would be hard pressed to beat, I will tell you that straight up and I think most would agree, he is a machine.
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:49 pm

kog must have around 40 days str8 conqueror now?
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:15 pm

was

by Blitzaholic on Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:23 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:KoG give me egg roll I give him red star.





1 KingOfGods 4829 4491 2381 (53%) Conqueror Conqueror 4.7 United States United States
2 rabbiton 4821 1415 950 (67%) Field Marshal Field Marshal 4.7 United States United States


til now


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1 rabbiton 4926 1436 967 (67%) Conqueror Conqueror 4.7 United States United States
2 mhennigan 4714 413 197 (48%) Field Marshal Field Marshal 4.8 United Kingdom United Kingdom
3 Thai Robert 4653 229 143 (62%) General General 4.8 Thailand Thailand
4 KingOfGods 4486 4640 2497 (54%) General General 4.8 United States United States

KingOfGods stayed for 111 days str8 and being active, well done.
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby Qwert on Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:06 pm

i have 2 question.
1.its these statistic show how long are some bee on no1 in scoreboard.
2.If these present score of multiple time on no1,then you mising over 1 year.
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:31 pm

qwert wrote:i have 2 question.
1.its these statistic show how long are some bee on no1 in scoreboard.
2.If these present score of multiple time on no1,then you mising over 1 year.



a player must be active (what I mean by this is having more than 4 games active every day-because freemium can do this)

these records are for conqueror's who reached this status and maintained # 1 for that many days in a row without ever dropping to number 2 on the scoreboard. once they lose 1st place, it starts over, but, the amount of days in a row stays locked in history forever, see page 1.
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby jleonnn on Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:49 am

Oh now I get it.
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby Gilligan on Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:19 pm

I have a question: Why do you feel the need to highlight ONLY THOTA and no one else?
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby happy2seeyou on Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:31 pm

Gilligan wrote:I have a question: Why do you feel the need to highlight ONLY THOTA and no one else?


Did you really have to ask?? :lol:
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:37 am

happy2seeyou wrote:
Gilligan wrote:I have a question: Why do you feel the need to highlight ONLY THOTA and no one else?


Did you really have to ask?? :lol:


When I started the thread years ago, it was mostly all Thota, with a few others, if there is a clan that has several up there now, I reckon I could use a different color for them if they want.


jleonnn wrote:Oh now I get it.
AAFitz wrote:
blitzaholic wrote:I love lists. And risk. If there was a risk list i would marry it.

And this is one of your many lists



Yep, I enjoy stats, it helps some set some lofty goals, I am all about enhancing CC and improving it in anyways I can. i think keeping stats in some ways does this. ;)
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:15 am

Blitzaholic wrote:
happy2seeyou wrote:
Gilligan wrote:I have a question: Why do you feel the need to highlight ONLY THOTA and no one else?


Did you really have to ask?? :lol:


When I started the thread years ago, it was mostly all Thota, with a few others, if there is a clan that has several up there now, I reckon I could use a different color for them if they want.


jleonnn wrote:Oh now I get it.
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blitzaholic wrote:I love lists. And risk. If there was a risk list i would marry it.

And this is one of your many lists



Yep, I enjoy stats, it helps some set some lofty goals, I am all about enhancing CC and improving it in anyways I can. i think keeping stats in some ways does this. ;)

Can I have my own color? A special color for players that are half pony and half leet ? thanks
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby jleonnn on Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:59 am

lol
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:37 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
happy2seeyou wrote:
Gilligan wrote:I have a question: Why do you feel the need to highlight ONLY THOTA and no one else?


Did you really have to ask?? :lol:


When I started the thread years ago, it was mostly all Thota, with a few others, if there is a clan that has several up there now, I reckon I could use a different color for them if they want.


jleonnn wrote:Oh now I get it.
AAFitz wrote:
blitzaholic wrote:I love lists. And risk. If there was a risk list i would marry it.

And this is one of your many lists



Yep, I enjoy stats, it helps some set some lofty goals, I am all about enhancing CC and improving it in anyways I can. i think keeping stats in some ways does this. ;)


Can I have my own color? A special color for players that are half pony and half leet ? thanks


you do, black and blue :lol:
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:09 pm

you do, black and blue :lol:

"My own". 2 others are the same color. Thats why I added half leet.
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby Beckytheblondie on Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:12 pm

JR, we all know you're only half leet.

the title of this thread should have no apostrophe.
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUEROR's

Postby Blitzaholic on Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:21 am

Beckytheblondie wrote:JR, we all know you're only half leet.

the title of this thread should have no apostrophe.


apostrophe gone, thx
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUERORs

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:13 pm

1 rabbiton 4941 1440 970 (67%) Conqueror Conqueror 19 4.7 United States United States
2 Thai Robert 4699 230 144 (63%) General General 8 4.8 Thailand Thailand



perhaps chip could add to the scoreboard any past conquerors as well? If it would fit?
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUERORs

Postby White Moose on Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:30 am

Noticed a funny thing here.

To be on this list you have to play minimum of 4 games at all times, which means that no freemium can get on this list and no one who play only speed games can either.

(freemiums because when they finish a game they will only have 3 games going, which is below the minimum)
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUERORs

Postby natty dread on Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:17 am

you have to play minimum of 4 games at all times, which means that no freemium can get on this


Freemiums can play 4 games.
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUERORs

Postby White Moose on Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:55 am

natty_dread wrote:
you have to play minimum of 4 games at all times, which means that no freemium can get on this


Freemiums can play 4 games.


Read all of my post.
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Re: CC's 20 CONQUERORs

Postby natty dread on Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:44 am

TL,DR.
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