K-Dub[warned]

colton24 · Post by **colton24** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:28 pm

Accused:

[player]K-dub[/player]

The accused are suspected of:

Attempted Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

N/A

Comments: [spoiler=ScreenShot]

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BoganGod · Post by **BoganGod** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:34 pm

If you had said yes he might well have declared it in game chat..... Attempted and doing are two greatly different things.

colton24 · Post by **colton24** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:36 pm

BoganGod wrote:If you had said yes he might well have declared it in game chat..... Attempted and doing are two greatly different things.

Ahem http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99742

K-dub · Post by **K-dub** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:46 pm

i was going to announce it if u accepted...

colton24 · Post by **colton24** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:47 pm

colton24 wrote:
BoganGod wrote:If you had said yes he might well have declared it in game chat..... Attempted and doing are two greatly different things.

Ahem http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99742

K-dub wrote:i was going to announce it if u accepted...

You are saying that to cover your skin. And oh, read the thread.

K-dub · Post by **K-dub** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:48 pm

u dont know that

colton24 · Post by **colton24** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:52 pm

K-dub wrote:u dont know that

True, but you could easily be lying

BoganGod · Post by **BoganGod** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:54 pm

There you have it, he was ASKING for an alliance. You colton are attempting to waste time by posting this here. A reasonable person would have said "sure lets declare a truce for X rounds, and announce it" or "sorry if I wanted to team up would play dbs...." and possible be kind to a less experienced freemium player that hasn't played much and point out that whilst alliances are not against the rules, there are correct ways to go about it.

K-dub · Post by **K-dub** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:55 pm

BoganGod wrote:There you have it, he was ASKING for an alliance. You colton are attempting to waste time by posting this here. A reasonable person would have said "sure lets declare a truce for X rounds, and announce it" or "sorry if I wanted to team up would play dbs...." and possible be kind to a less experienced freemium player that hasn't played much and point out that whilst alliances are not against the rules, there are correct ways to go about it.

he has a point

colton24 · Post by **colton24** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:58 pm

BoganGod wrote:There you have it, he was ASKING for an alliance. You colton are attempting to waste time by posting this here. A reasonable person would have said "sure lets declare a truce for X rounds, and announce it" or "sorry if I wanted to team up would play dbs...." and possible be kind to a less experienced freemium player that hasn't played much and point out that whilst alliances are not against the rules, there are correct ways to go about it.

If you read the thread I posted LV and others cleary state that you cannot ask or negociate allainces via pm then annonce them in game chat

colton24 wrote:
BoganGod wrote:If you had said yes he might well have declared it in game chat..... Attempted and doing are two greatly different things.

Ahem http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99742

nippersean · Post by **nippersean** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:09 pm

Correct Colton - you cannot announce them afters - the rules are clear.
Game talk is announced in the game chat, end of -anything else is cheating

BoganGod · Post by **BoganGod** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:11 pm

Read the thread.... Now kid re read my post above, just pointing out that there could have been more humane ways to handle this. Doing a bit of wall gazing, Game 5350679 Me thinks that you are just dirty about him giving you a well deserved poor rating. The pm was sent a while back wasn't it(1wk ago to be precise).... Only now are you bringing this up. Looks like you could be trying to hold someone hostage over a rating. I only saw half of the threatening dribble you posted on the poor blokes wall, all over a well deserved and not unusual for you rating. Getting a strong suspicion that your motives are far from pure on this one. You appear to be envious that someone without premium and with 1/3 the amount of games played is a much better player with higher turns taken, win percentage and ratings.

colton24 · Post by **colton24** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:47 pm

BoganGod wrote:Read the thread.... Now kid re read my post above, just pointing out that there could have been more humane ways to handle this. Doing a bit of wall gazing, Game 5350679 Me thinks that you are just dirty about him giving you a well deserved poor rating. The pm was sent a while back wasn't it.... Only now are you bringing this up. Looks like you could be trying to hold someone hostage over a rating. Getting a strong suspicion that your motives are far from pure on this one. You appear to be envious that someone without premium and with 1/3 the amount of games played is a much better player with higher turns taken, win percentage and ratings.

No.... I didn't even relize what his rating was towards me. If I did and I don't remember I never keep grudges over a game/ rating. And how is the rating well deserved? And more importantly I didn't open the pm until today when I noticed it.

the.killing.44 · Post by **the.killing.44** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:56 pm

What Bogan said.

Nice friends list!

K-dub · Post by **K-dub** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:29 pm

colton24 wrote:
BoganGod wrote:If you had said yes he might well have declared it in game chat..... Attempted and doing are two greatly different things.

Ahem http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99742

sry but i havent ever read that forum before so i just figured that u could pm the guy for diplomacy then announce it...

jefjef · Post by **jefjef** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:36 pm

IF it wasn't colton44 with this complaint would you all be defending k_dub?

It's secret diplomacy. Should have been in chat. No ifs - ands - or butts.

lord voldemort · Post by **lord voldemort** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:09 pm

He has been warned. All diplomacy must be done in game chat. Also informed tourny organiser. Alliances in tournies are a no no.

colton24 · Post by **colton24** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:29 pm

lord voldemort wrote:He has been warned. All diplomacy must be done in game chat. Also informed tourny organiser. Alliances in tournies are a no no.

Thank you.

K-dub · Post by **K-dub** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:13 pm

u cant have diplomacy in tournys??? nobody told me about that rule...besides i havent ben warned of that...i was accused of multi accounts remember??? it wasnt secret diplomacy

siukong · Post by **siukong** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:47 pm

Accused:

[player]K-dub[/player]
[player]lukeconquer[/player]

The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 5778892

Comments:

As another player in this game, I decided to investigate upon hearing colton24's accusation. I found these comments posted by k-dub and aferr on each others' walls, which are pretty definite in their implications. I've put them here unedited (except to sort them into chronological order):

check out game 5778892

by K-dub
on Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:32 pm

nice game lol

by aferr
on Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:33 pm

well its not over yet...if blue will miss his turn than it is...he has about 5 hours left!!!

by K-dub
on Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:34 pm

haha he might

by aferr
on Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:34 pm

well from the beginning we were teaming up...now the other guys want to team up against me...i hope he rejects them and stays eith me...if he does i win...if i win i will get like 3 promotions!!!

by K-dub
on Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:36 pm

haha hope you dont lose

by aferr
on Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:39 pm

crap...he begun his turn

by K-dub
on Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:37 pm

omg...he is remaining loyal to me since we teamed up...lol...what a bonehead move!

by K-dub
on Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:40 pm

i know he couldve taken out maryland and the other capital

by aferr
on Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:40 pm

lol...i know

by K-dub
on Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:41 pm

get this...he isnt my teamate anymore...he is mad cuase i took 1 land from him...he told me that our alliance is over cuase i attacked 1 land of his...what a retard

by K-dub
on Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:04 pm

who is the last guy

by aferr
on Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:26 pm

I also have both screenshots and html back-ups of these pages, should any of these comments be deleted.

lukeconquer's wall is empty atm, so presumably whatever arrangements were made with k-dub were done by PM (are these mod-accessible?). However, with only four players remaining and the map laid out how it was, he was the only player in the attacking position they were talking about (it also helps that he is, in fact, the blue player in the game).

Mods, feel free to merge this thread with the other if necessary, but I would prefer it be kept separate for a while to be sure that this new information is definitely seen by someone since the other thread seems to have reached the conclusion that "simply sending someone a proposal is okay, as long as it's later announced in the game chat". That was clearly not done in this case.

This is my first experience with secret diplomacy, and I have to say, it's pretty disheartening.

siukong · Post by **siukong** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:01 pm

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=100362

lord voldemort · Post by **lord voldemort** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:02 am

I'll merge it and he has been warned...If any new from this date onwards comes up then something further can be done

BoganGod · Post by **BoganGod** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:19 am

jefjef wrote:IF it wasn't colton44 with this complaint would you all be defending k_dub?

It's secret diplomacy. Should have been in chat. No ifs - ands - or butts.

Read one of my first posts kid. There were easier more humane ways to deal with this like giving him a heads up about the rules, he didn't know that when making an alliance you have to arrange it in game chat, rather than sort it out then post in game chat. He has only played 300or so games. Don't want to you feel like I'm picking on your little puppet

Hoagy · Post by **Hoagy** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:25 pm

lord voldemort wrote:He has been warned. All diplomacy must be done in game chat. Also informed tourny organiser. Alliances in tournies are a no no.

When? Nothing in my inbox (except from colton24 and K-dub).

However, the situation has (hopefully) been remedied amicably.

the.killing.44 · Post by **the.killing.44** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:28 pm

Last bumped by colton24 on December 6th, 2009, 12:25 pm.

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